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Actually I believe SLA4P could have been an engineering sample or a synonym of SLAED (GO). SL9YZ (B3) was the different stepping shown on Wikipedia with different voltage range. I agree that different Stepping to GO should probably be avoided. I just do not know if SLA4P is GO or B3 Stepping.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/INTEL-XEON-P...ms=65:3|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

LA Micro seems to indicate that SLA4P is identical to SLAED and both GO Stepping.
 
gugucom said:
Actually I believe SLA4P could have been an engineering sample or a synonym of SLAED (GO). SL9YZ (B3) was the different stepping shown on Wikipedia with different voltage range. I agree that different Stepping to GO should probably be avoided. I just do not know if SLA4P is GO or B3 Stepping.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/INTEL-XEON-P...ms=65:3|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

LA Micro seems to indicate that SLA4P is identical to SLAED and both GO Stepping.
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So does Intel's processor finder page. (I searched BX80563X5365A, and it came up as SLAED, so G0 stepping looks to be correct).
 
Prices for X5365 on Ebay Are Too High!

It looks damn near impossible to find a used matched pair of x5365s on ebay for less than $1K. A pair sold recently for $1025, which seems insane to me. Though there are sellers asking for more than $1K just for a single new processor! It's baffling to me why the X5365 at this late date should be more expensive than some brand new nehalems which outperform them. Anyway, does somebody know another source where one might find a pair of matched X5365s? I can't see spending more than $650 for a used matched pair. If it's much more, selling my quad 2.66 and buying a used 2.8 octo would be a better deal and as fast if not faster come SL.
 
It is the top processor of the range and it was only introduced 20 months ago. There are relatively few machines that can get an upgrade with other processor ranges and donate used chips. Scrapping used machines will probably only start at 36-48 months from introduction. These factors produce an insane used chip demand that is unbalanced by the supply.
 
Yeah, I was looking for 5365s and settled for 5160s.

By the time I sold my 5150s, I basically got 5160s for free.

So I now have Quad 3.0....which is going to be as fast as 5365 for MOST stuff.

Someday I'll get the 5365s....
 
<shrug> I see them for the $600 to $800 I mentioned almost weekly just casually surfing. It's a hit & miss numbers game I guess. But like Romulator says even if at $1000 they're worth it. :)
 
I got lucky and snapped one up at Ebay for 221€ last week. It just arrived 10 minutes ago. I missed another opportunity for 310€ some weeks ago and I'm a bit sad now because I would have a matching pair now. So I will continue to look. I'm certainly not going to pay LA Micro their obscene price. For that you can buy them at Amazon in new condition.
 
The Rominator said:
Yeah, I was looking for 5365s and settled for 5160s.

By the time I sold my 5150s, I basically got 5160s for free.

So I now have Quad 3.0....which is going to be as fast as 5365 for MOST stuff.

Someday I'll get the 5365s....
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I think I will go that route as well. 5160s are pretty affordable, about $300 for a used matched pair. Since I mostly do Photoshop work, there won't be much speed difference between the 5365s and the 5160s. I imagine, as gugucom points out, that the 5365s won't drop in price until the end of the year or next year, when Apple releases the next iteration of the Mac Pro which will make the 5365 look much slower.
 
When I upgraded my system from X5150s to X5355 (quad to octad @ 2.66GHz) I didn't notice much of a speed differences under my mouse so to speak. Some. But not dramatic. In all pro apps and including Maya, Lightwave3D, Photoshop, and etc. I sure noticed a difference though! A big difference! People say PS isn't multi-threaded but this is entirely untrue. It's just not all multi-threaded is all. Something like 40% ~ 60% of PS is indeed multi-threaded and having 8 cores as opposed to 4 will also indeed make a huge difference.
 
Does anyone think Apple will include the 3.2GHz CPU's in their latest lineup, or do you think they will skip it and wait for the next chipset?
 
I think there's a good likelihood that they will, yes. They did for the 2006 machines in Q4 or Q3 of 2006. :)
 
Tesselator said:
I think there's a good likelihood that they will, yes. They did for the 2006 machines in Q4 or Q3 of 2006. :)
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Even given the current pricing structure of the '09's?

I'd think the MSRP of such a model would be too much for many to handle, even businesses. ;) Unless some price drops where issued as well. :D
 
bozz2006 said:
Don't you think nehalem xeon chips will come down in price pretty soon?
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From what I've seen on the MP's, Apple tends to leave the MSRP's the same over time. The part cost from Intel typically gets lower.

I've seen some claims of part shortages, but I'm not sure to their validity. If true, Intel won't lower the prices any time soon, likely reducing Apple's interest in introducing the 3.2GHz parts in the lineup. :(
 
From the evidence I've seen, I would imagine that Apple isn't affected by any shortages from Intel. I think they are BFFs.

And I'm not talking necessarily about Apple's prices, but rather, the price Intel charges Apple for their product. You're right, Apple's prices usually stay quite stable, and instead of dropping the price, they bump the specs and keep the price the same. That's my guess as to what will happen.
 
nanofrog said:
Even given the current pricing structure of the '09's?

I'd think the MSRP of such a model would be too much for many to handle, even businesses. ;) Unless some price drops where issued as well. :D
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True.

But I figure if they are insane enough to ask what they are asking now then logic like yours may not apply. Or any logic for that matter. :p
 
bozz2006 said:
From the evidence I've seen, I would imagine that Apple isn't affected by any shortages from Intel. I think they are BFFs.

And I'm not talking necessarily about Apple's prices, but rather, the price Intel charges Apple for their product. You're right, Apple's prices usually stay quite stable, and instead of dropping the price, they bump the specs and keep the price the same. That's my guess as to what will happen.
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My mention of the shortages was only to give the canned answer as to why these models won't drop in price, as previous gens have.

As to Apple's pricing, I don't think it's far off, if at all this time around. As that was the likely compromise of them getting Gainestown parts earlier than any other vendors.
 
nanofrog said:
My mention of the shortages was only to give the canned answer as to why these models won't drop in price, as previous gens have.

As to Apple's pricing, I don't think it's far off, if at all this time around. As that was the likely compromise of them getting Gainestown parts earlier than any other vendors.
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There was no compromise, other vendors had product the same time Apple did, but they honoured contracts.
 
I just had a lucky break and thought I share this. I told the Ebay vendor of my X5365 CPU that he will have to wait some weeks or months for feedback because I was hunting for a second CPU and will not be able to test the one he send. He mailed back and offered me a second CPU which he had not offered on Ebay. We quickly agreed to use the conditions of the first deal and now I will have a pair for 442€ (618$). From this I can still detract what I will get for the 5150 pair. A worthwhile upgrade.
 
Sweet deal. Wish I could have found a deal like that. Thought about upgrading again if I found a decent price but decided to sell it instead. Going to miss her but my other one will keep me busy.
 
bearcatrp said:
Sweet deal. Wish I could have found a deal like that. Thought about upgrading again if I found a decent price but decided to sell it instead. Going to miss her but my other one will keep me busy.
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You can still. $600 ~ $800 for the pair if you're willing to dedicate 30min. to an hour a day for about week, is pretty doable!

And, yeah! Congratz gugucom! Sweet system you have there! Now to max out the RAM and the RAID0 Array! :D
 
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