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Update on the PowerBook 520, I received it yesterday. I checked it from dents,scratches,etc. There were a few scratches, nothing serious though. The LCD seems flimsy though, It doesn't fall though.:)

I am not sure who gave the eBay link on the last thread I made(laptop is having mouse issues, so going to that thread would be a pain:mad:), but thats where I also got the PowerBook 520's charger. Luckily the owner of the PB 520 included a battery, which means I don't have to scour the internet.:D

In the middle of all of this, I also picked up a 1st Generation iPhone!:D

So far, no major issues. Top of screen(very top) has a gray line of pixels, seems to be a common issue with older iDevices:(. I would have appreciated if the seller mentioned that the volume button wasn't dented instead of saying "it doesn't work".

There's one question that keeps coming to me though, Why are the iPhone 1st Generations so slow?:confused:

Please do not tell me about the hardware, I am aware it runs below 600mhz and that it only has 128mb ram.

But, surely the iPhone was blazing fast when it was first released just like every other product Apple releases.

I have been using the iPhone for the day, and I love it, EDGE isn't slow at all. I can probably get to google on EDGE in a few seconds, and this is just at 2 bars,:D:eek:
 
One thing I've noticed with older iOS devices is that over time, using them causes the NAND flash to slow down. My old iPod Touch 1G used to clock in at 50 MB read and 20 MB write back in 2007. Now it can hardly do 5MB read/write.
 
Keep in mind that when the iPhone 2G was first released there was nothing quite like it to directly compare it to in the smartphone world, and the 2007 hardware was still underpowered to run the new iPhone OS smoothly. So yes, it was somewhat slow/laggy from the start.

Now that we have modern iPhones to compare it to, we can see just how far they've come.
 
What version iOS is on it? And what is the newest it can run?

If it's running the newest or a newer OS then that is most likely your problem.
 
iOS 3.1.3 is the newest it can run.

Good old iOS 3. I got my first iPhone-a 3gs-in the spring of 2010. I actually bought it the day before the iPhone 4 was introduced, but did so because that was the last day that unlimited data plans were available from AT&T. I managed to keep my unlimited plan until I got my iPhone 6 in March.

I really wish that Apple didn't make it nearly impossible to downgrade iOS devices. I stubbornly kept running iOS 6 on my iPhone 4s(amazingly enough, I often heard people complain about how slow their phones were on iOS 7/8, while mine kept going along quite happily with iOS 6). I ended up upgrading it to iOS 8 to migrate everything to my iPhone 6.

I'd love to be able to take it back to iOS 6, however. If nothing else, it would be nice to use it as an iPod that I can sync with computers running Leopard.
 
I'd love to be able to take it back to iOS 6, however. If nothing else, it would be nice to use it as an iPod that I can sync with computers running Leopard.

I jailbroke my iP4 to prevent any accidental upating from iOS6, although I wish I could drop it to iOS5 as 6 broke data and HDMI out. Posting from my iPad Mini also on iOS6. Cannot stand flat, nor the bind-my-eyes wall of white that followed.
 
One thing I've noticed with older iOS devices is that over time, using them causes the NAND flash to slow down. My old iPod Touch 1G used to clock in at 50 MB read and 20 MB write back in 2007. Now it can hardly do 5MB read/write.

:( Aw, well it seems like the NAND is fine, I transferred about 40+ songs in a minute.

I also had to re-install iOS 3.1.3 since the jailbreak messed up on, it seems to be much faster...:)

What version iOS is on it? And what is the newest it can run?

If it's running the newest or a newer OS then that is most likely your problem.

iOS 3.1.3 is the max, which is what I am on. I cant seem to find anything below iOS 3.1.3 and if I do, most apps wont support it.:(

I really wish that Apple didn't make it nearly impossible to downgrade iOS devices. I stubbornly kept running iOS 6 on my iPhone 4s(amazingly enough, I often heard people complain about how slow their phones were on iOS 7/8, while mine kept going along quite happily with iOS 6). I ended up upgrading it to iOS 8 to migrate everything to my iPhone 6.

Sadly my iPhone 4S runs iOS 8, I cant seem to get it back to iOS 6.:mad:

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Downloaded some 3D games, yesterday. I have been playing Modern Combat 2: Black Pegasus, sadly the first Modern Combat was removed off the app store. Modern Combat 2 is a little laggy at times but works great, I also got Crash Bandicoot:D. I used to play it on a 3GS and I loved it.

I can't get any older versions of games, like Doodle Jump,Fruit Ninja,etc.:(

Some of my iMessages redirect to my iPhone 4S instead of my iPhone 1st Gen(even numbers I text, all there texts go to iMessage instead of my number)

One major issue though, MacRumors crashes on Safari:(. Its very smooth at first but then Safari crashes:mad:. I doubt its too heavy for the iPhone 1st Generation.
 
I have a blazing iPhone 2G, maybe it wasn't used very much. Then I have a broken 3G and two working 3GSes (1 white, iOS 5, one black, iOS 6), and a white iPhone 5 and a white iPhone 6.
 
A couple of good options for the original iPhone are either to install Whited00r or to downgrade to iPhone OS 2. As others have said, the original iPhone was fast - compared to previous smartphones.

Whited00or is a third-party firmware that is based on iPhone OS 3.1.3, that adds a *LOT* of customizations - making it look like iOS 7, and adding quite a few later-iOS type features like task switching, control center, notification center, etc. It also has a "Time Machine Store" where it has the latest iPhone OS 3-compatible versions of many popular apps, so you can load apps that the official iPhone OS 3 App Store no longer has. You can dig *VERY* deep in to the customizations, to either add lots of modern-style usability, or go for maximum speed.

The original iPhone is old enough that you can easily force-downgrade the OS, returning you to iPhone OS 2, which is faster than 3 on the original iPhone. Since extremely few apps run on even iPhone OS 3, there isn't much downside to dropping to 2. You'll want to jailbreak to get decent apps on it, too.

Or, if you're really adventurous (and have an older system that can run iTunes 7,) you can downgrade to iPhone OS 1, and go for "original look and feel."
 
A couple of good options for the original iPhone are either to install Whited00r or to downgrade to iPhone OS 2. As others have said, the original iPhone was fast - compared to previous smartphones.



Whited00or is a third-party firmware that is based on iPhone OS 3.1.3, that adds a *LOT* of customizations - making it look like iOS 7, and adding quite a few later-iOS type features like task switching, control center, notification center, etc. It also has a "Time Machine Store" where it has the latest iPhone OS 3-compatible versions of many popular apps, so you can load apps that the official iPhone OS 3 App Store no longer has. You can dig *VERY* deep in to the customizations, to either add lots of modern-style usability, or go for maximum speed.



The original iPhone is old enough that you can easily force-downgrade the OS, returning you to iPhone OS 2, which is faster than 3 on the original iPhone. Since extremely few apps run on even iPhone OS 3, there isn't much downside to dropping to 2. You'll want to jailbreak to get decent apps on it, too.



Or, if you're really adventurous (and have an older system that can run iTunes 7,) you can downgrade to iPhone OS 1, and go for "original look and feel."


I'll check out WhiteD00R when I get a chance, luckily the iOS verification servers only work for iOS 5.0+

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Oh and it works! :D, downside is that part of the bottom screen is glitchy. Sometimes it loads an sometimes it doesn't. And looks like someone forgot to wipe their HDD
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Oof - the display is probably a loose connector in the display housing - I have a PowerBook 5300ce with that problem. Applying a ridiculous amount of torque to the display (pulling the left side toward me while pushing the right side away from me,) causes it to update while I'm applying the pressure, but it fails again as soon as I let go. I haven't gotten around to opening mine up yet to fix it.

The icons are funny - it always surprises me how many people just dump dozens/hundreds of icons on their desktop without ever cleaning it up. (My wife is one of those - although she does go through and clean it up every couple months.)
 
The icons are funny - it always surprises me how many people just dump dozens/hundreds of icons on their desktop without ever cleaning it up. (My wife is one of those - although she does go through and clean it up every couple months.)

Guilt as charged-I often use the desktop as a convenient place to dump files that I need to access frequently in the short term.

I do try and clean it up every week or two.
 
Guilt as charged-I often use the desktop as a convenient place to dump files that I need to access frequently in the short term.

I do try and clean it up every week or two.

My favorite was a machine I received, that when I booted it up, the desktop refused to load. I booted in to safe mode, and saw that the desktop was full of icons, and each one I saw was actually a *STACK* of 30 icons.

Each action I tried to take caused a complete redraw of the screen, which involved redrawing every single icon. I dragged one "stack" of icons to the trash - it took a few minutes to redraw. I dragged a second stack, a few more minutes to redraw (like 5-7 minutes.) They were almost all unnamed. I tried to drag multiple "stacks" at once, and the screen took about 20 minutes to come back, so I had to go back to just dragging them one by one. (Of course, it had a bad floppy drive, so I couldn't just boot from a floppy and delete the hard drive's "Desktop" folder...)

Finally, when it was done, I rebooted to the hard drive. It started creating new printer icons on the desktop every few seconds. The Desktop Printing extension was bad. I had to disable it to prevent it from repeating the desktop icon filling.
 
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