So now that Apple has backtracked on this one, where does the line start for all ya’ll to get that crow served?
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WordPress for iOS Was Blocked From Updating Unless it Agreed to Add In-App Purchases for .Com Plans [Updated]
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b-b-b-but Wordpress should be grateful Apple is even willing to host their app!!! Wordpress sux !!
Lol this is such a terrible take, seeing as how you can get cheese (groceries, etc) from other places, but you can only get those apps on IOS from the app store. Good try defending apple though... I am sure they will give you a $1.00 off coupon on the next iPhone for being such a blindly loyal fan....
How so?
Developers can make apps for other platforms, Apple won’t receive a dime. Developers can follow the rules for free apps, Apple won’t receive a dime.
Where is the extortion? The developer broke the rules, either on purpose or accident. As a result, they had to fix their app before future updates would be allowed. This is not a secret, it’s in the agreement developers sign when they CHOOSE to make apps for iOS. No one forces them to do so.
There is no extortion here.
Apple is completely up front about the costs associated with iOS apps.
You may wish those costs were lower. That’s fine. But it’s not extortion. And since Apple isn’t even close to having a monopoly on the smartphone market, there is competition.
And you can get apps for Android if you don’t like the iOS approach. Preferring Apples products and Apples approach doesn’t make one blind any more than preferring Androids approach does. You have choice, use it.
I don't consider the 30% cut as "greed", since it's an industry-standard fee, but it gets muddy when it's perceived as Apple getting something without giving anything. The truth is that they give a TON to developers, but only those developers that generate revenue directly (not via ads) compensate Apple for these assets, benefits and services. Free apps also get a completely free ride, other than the initial developer fee.
I recently purchased a subscription to a game app that I use every day because i was tired of being bombarded by ads between every single game play. It's a word game, with games lasting 3-4 minutes, so that's a lot of ad impressions for the developer over the course of a day. For $7.00 a month (via in-app purchase), I reclaimed all that wasted time.
I hope that Apple still reconsiders and lowers the %, or goes with a fixed-fee. For a $1700 WordPress.com subscription, and for Apple to get $500+ of that just doesn't seem right.
As a developer myself, with apps on both the Google Play Store and the App Store with over 250K monthly active users, I have become so frustrated with Apple's arbitrary and capricious enforcement of its App Store regulations, its bullying and coercion of developers, its extortionate fees, and its monopolistic anti-competitive practices, that I have stopped updating my apps on the App Store. I wonder how many other developers are in a similar position. As a consumer, I now know that if I want the latest, up to date apps, I'm better off turning to the Play Store or one of the many other app stores that can be used on Android devices.
I've also given up on the MacBook line, tired of the touch bar, the slate-like keyboards, and (now) the transition to ARM. My next laptop will be a Thinkpad or Dell. Most of my development these days is done under Windows using WSL2, and my primary focus is on Android.
It used to be that my apps made more money on Apple devices, but now I actually make more on Android. The Google Play review process is a breeze compared to Apple's laborious and stifling rules, and at some point, it's just not worth the hassle.
It's sad, I was an enthusiastic endorser of Apple products just 7 years ago, but can no longer recommend them. This is the first year I won't be buying a new iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch, too - I'm looking to switch to the Pixel or Samsung Galaxy line and Wear OS.
I've also given up on the MacBook line, tired of the touch bar, the slate-like keyboards, and (now) the transition to ARM. My next laptop will be a Thinkpad or Dell. Most of my development these days is done under Windows using WSL2, and my primary focus is on Android.
It used to be that my apps made more money on Apple devices, but now I actually make more on Android. The Google Play review process is a breeze compared to Apple's laborious and stifling rules, and at some point, it's just not worth the hassle.
It's sad, I was an enthusiastic endorser of Apple products just 7 years ago, but can no longer recommend them. This is the first year I won't be buying a new iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch, too - I'm looking to switch to the Pixel or Samsung Galaxy line and Wear OS.
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Basically you discuss a generalized fictitious situation. What exactly has Apple "done" to you?
As a consumer, if I were to use Android, I would be much more careful of the apps I download from the play store, given their bad rap, than the app store.
As usual, it's revealed in the end the dishonest party is the developer (as usual). They and whine and complain all they like, but in the end the truth is they're just not honest enough to follow the rules that Apple sets for everyone
Doesn’t appear that way.
By the way, your usage of “as usual” multiple times in the same sentence is weird.
Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app to add purchases after all
“It is now a free stand-alone app,” says Apple
www.theverge.com
Glad they worked it out. But there is this, which is very difficult to explain and makes the wordpress ceo seem like he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. So when you discuss eating crow, it's really with fries or mashed potatoes.
Epic Games Sought Side Deal for Fortnite Prior to Lawsuit, Apple Says in Court Filing [Updated]
Interesting titbit in the comments section.
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Glad they worked it out. But there is this, which is very difficult to explain and makes the wordpress ceo seem like he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. So when you discuss eating crow, it's really with fries or mashed potatoes.
Epic Games Sought Side Deal for Fortnite Prior to Lawsuit, Apple Says in Court Filing [Updated]
Interesting titbit in the comments section.
Seems like Apple is talking out of both sides of their mouth in this case.
Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app to add purchases after all
“It is now a free stand-alone app,” says Apple
www.theverge.com
Seems like the wordpress ceo is flat out lying and fixed their app because they knew Apple was in the right here. Apple was gracious with the apology. But it's fine, to skip over what the ceo said and didn't see and how it was said, as long as Apple is portrayed as the villain here.Seems like Apple is talking out of both sides of their mouth in this case.
Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app to add purchases after all
“It is now a free stand-alone app,” says Apple
I don’t know, the article seems to make some good points. You should try reading it.
The Wordpress app linked to web payments for two years on the App. Maybe Apple was very easy on him because that link wasn’t front and center in the App.
Apple didn’t backtrack. The offending issue was no longer a problem in the Wordpress app, and so the problem Apple had with them was no longer valid. Problem solved.
Another day where Apple continues to apply their guidelines evenly, and disgruntled developers take to Twitter to air their grievances and try to win some online support.
The linked article also makes some good points catching the CEO in some double talk.
Again you’re missing the point. There is one way to get apps on IOS. Saying “go to Android” doesn’t change the argument. 🤦🏼♂️
Wait. I do have choice. If fortnite is not on ios i will play on my xbox.
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Why is that not valid. Not all apps have to be on ios
"Developers can make apps for other platforms". Developers don't make the apps for platforms, they make apps for people and some people (iOS users) are unfortunate to be controlled in what apps they can and can't buy/install by a huge corporation. That's not normal.
Is xbox a phone? Can you carry it with you? You seemingly accept the constraints imposed on you by Apple too easily.
I’ve found a few other apps I use are making the same violation Wordpress made. I’m not going to name names, but it’ll be interesting to see if Apple starts enforcing the rules more consistently. (Somehow I doubt it)