Working at Apple

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by Dj64Mk7, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. Dj64Mk7 macrumors 6502a

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    Hello to everyone! Some of you may know me from prior threads on here, but if you don't: I'm a high school student (11th grade) and a gigantic Apple fan. It is my dream to work for Apple, to be a part of a company who redefines history, one amazing product at a time.

    I know that I'm currently too young to get a job with Apple at this moment, but I want to start having this discussion now so that I'm ready when the time comes to apply.

    I have absolutely no prior paid work experience of any kind, but I have done various volunteering events.

    This is brief, I know, but it's a start and I hope that we will be able to have good discussion on this subject.

    Thanks for reading!
     
  2. ncstatered21 macrumors regular

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    Just focus on school right now. If you have the chance to take electives based on computers, design, or engineering go ahead and do so. Look at colleges that focus on science, engineering, technology, and math. You will need a degree to be able to work for Apple most likely. Just focus on your grades and follow an appropriate college program.
     
  3. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Before I entered the 9th grade, I took a programming class (for high school credit) at the MD school for the blind [and visually impaired; I have a slight visual impairment, with glasses my acuity is 20/60] where we used a language called Quorum (similar to Java.)

    As far as jobs at Apple, I have no clue where to look for corporate listings (help?) I am, however, extremely interested in being a specialist at a retail store and/or a chat specialist at the online store. I have extensive knowledge of Apple's products that I enjoy sharing with others, and I am a true believer in the ecosystem of products working together harmoniously. I love the culture, and I want to be able to live and breath it, because work is not worth anything unless you love it.
     
  4. ncstatered21 macrumors regular

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    Well it sounds like your on the right track. Like I said focus on high school right now. If you have the opportunity to take classes at your community college while in high school look there for computer classes.

    In regards to finding jobs with Apple, the most likely starting position would be locally at your Apple Store. Give them a call and ask them if jobs are available and where to apply. This would get you within their system. From there you may be able to find internal job postings.
     
  5. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I missed the opportunity to sign up for the Middle College program because of some health issues, which is truly a shame. The Middle College program is a joint between my public school system and the local community college where you actually get your 2-year degree (and attend all classes at the community college) during the time you would normally be in 11th and 12th grade. Unfortunately, I also missed the visit to the Technical High School because of those same health issues. But I look at those events as only minor setbacks.

    I will definitely bring this up the next time I go down to the Apple Store, which should be within a week or two of today. Is it even worth asking about all this, considering that I'm only 16 right now?
     
  6. ncstatered21 macrumors regular

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    It's worth asking where you would need to go when you turn the appropriate age.

    That way you have all the information on the hiring process in advanced.
     
  7. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks. I'll do this. Would it be good to gather references now, or is that not relevant until I am actually looking for hire? I'm brand new to the whole job world.
     
  8. ncstatered21 macrumors regular

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    You are going to have to get references from adult family friends, school teachers, and others of the same. I would wait. Things may change between now and then and you may have different people who you can get a reference from.
     
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  10. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    That makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

    Can you explain where you're coming from? What do you do for work? What was your dream career as a kid/teenager?
     
  11. ncstatered21 macrumors regular

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    For some reason that post says that quote is mine. I'll answer anyways.

    But I'm a mechanical engineer for a company that builds and services large power distribution transformers. I grew up loving technology and just went the way the path took me.

    I had many setbacks in my academic career. But I knew I didn't want to give up and switch to a different degree. It took me longer but I overcame my obstacles.

    I wouldn't say it was my ultimate dream as a teenager (I really didn't have one that I can think of) but I'm very happy where I am now.

    Don't let setbacks discourage you. Keep your sights set on your ultimate goal. Maybe we will see you in a keynote one day and we can look back on this thread!
     
  12. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    That's the most encouraging thing I've heard in a long time. Thanks so much!

    Did you grow up using Apple Products?
     
  13. ncstatered21 macrumors regular

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    Nope. Never really got any Apple products until I was probably 14-15. Didn't get a Mac until I was about to leave for college.
     
  14. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Interesting. I got my first Mac back in July 2010, and I should be getting my second pretty soon here (see my recently created threads). Even before I owned any Apple products, I loved the company and their devices simply fascinated me to no end. Right now, I have an iPad that was provided by the WCPS IT department which I use as an assistive technology device with my schoolwork, homework, notes, things like that. Long story short... they put so many restrictions on it that it's basically unusable. My parents and I are working with someone from a group called MD Promise to get me funding for a grant to get my very own retina MacBook.

    Are you interested in continuing this discussion further? I would like to, but I will leave the final desicion up to you.
     
  15. Mr_Brightside_@ macrumors 68020

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    You don't need references for Apple Retail.
     
  16. benzslrpee macrumors 6502

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    a couple of items right off the bat:
    • which colleges are you looking at? Apple has target engineering schools that it recruits from on a fairly large scale. getting into one of these universities increases your odds
    • what major(s) are you shooting for? contrary to popular belief, engineering is not the only thing that matters in Apple given their size and scale. you have supply chain, finance, accounting etc
    • do not worry lack of prior work experience. at your career level, shooting for a summer internship, recruiters are mainly hiring for fit, attitude, and passion to learn
    • i would recommend not doing any type of 2 year community college and then transferring to a university. many people will tell you it saves money, which it does, but it also precludes you from other things such as attending career fairs, school clubs that provide professional exposure (e.g. consulting club, finance club, engineering club etc)... in my opinion, considering the talent pool that Apple attracts just starting your first internship junior year in university puts you behind the curve. but this is highly predicated upon your financial situation so put some thought into this
    • how quant are you? even on the business side of the house they are very, very analytical. if math is not really your thing... well...
    • do you want to work in Apple at the undergrad level? Masters / MBA level? there are pros and cons of both. learn what they are
    • do not get suckered into working for Apple retail thinking you can somehow transition later


     
  17. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Oh. What DO you need then?
     
  18. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I will respond to your bullets in sentence form.

    The only school I know anything about is University of Maryland, Baltimore County.

    I haven't really started college searching yet. Again, I haven't really begun to even think about college, I just know that I want to work with technology, and that I happen to love Apple like no other company.

    Are there even jobs available in these fields for 16 year olds?

    This confuses me. What would you recommend?

    I don't know what "quant" means.

    Again, I don't know what you mean by this.

    What if I was to work at Apple retail while going to college for something at corporate?
     
  19. benzslrpee macrumors 6502

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    hmm... i graduated highschool in '02 so forgive me if i get some of the details muddled up, but just apply as applicable to your situation.

    let's start with the college search first. from my high school, i think most students begin during junior year if not the second half of their sophomore year. so here is a list straight from Apple's website http://www.apple.com/jobs/us/students.html that details which universities and colleges they recruit from. cross check this with that US News report which ranks colleges. obviously the higher rank, the more likely you will stand out in the applicant pool... however this also depends on your current GPA range

    apologies if i was not clear earlier on the jobs availability. i was looking from the perspective of once you get into university / college, you can study other majors and still get internships with Apple. so as a 16 year old, no... there will not be any of these positions open but once you are a sophomore you should explore these possibilities

    what do i recommend? my recommendation is the same as @ncstatered21 focus on getting into a good school (preferably something on the Apple list) and rock your first year GPA where classes are the easiest.

    where my thoughts deviate from the many on this forum is that i do not recommend pursuing Apple retail. i do not know your financial situation so do take what i say and think if it makes sense for you.

    working retail* in general is a waste of time during college. you are spending at least 20 hours a week (assuming part-time hours) putting your efforts into a profession that will maybe give you two bullet points worth writing about on your resume. your dream is to work in Apple corporate right? maybe manage a product line, maybe analyze their supply chain capabilities, maybe code the next iOS etc.

    your time is better spent joining the right clubs and groups in uni / college. a lot of these schools bring in alumni from different companies to come speak to students... this is essentially unofficial recruiting. you should maximize face time with these people and start networking. they may also do company campus visits, volunteer programs etc. to me, this is where i think your effort will produce the most results.

    retail makes sense on first blush because a lot of people think that having worked at "Apple" surely means you are ahead of the game right? well keep in mind that you are likely competing with student from Berkley / UIUC/ CalPoly who has done a campus visit, did an alumni meet and greet, competed in a Microsoft sponsored case competition with their club... i will tell you that those type of experiences catches the eye of recruiters more so than any other retail job

    one last thing. retail, or sales in general, is one of those jobs that has a tendency to pigeon hole you early on in your career... that is because you do not gain any particular hard skill set (e.g. coding, financial analysis etc). now if retail is your thing, then ignore everything i said above. if your finances dictate that you must hold a part-time job during college, ignore what i said

    i meant "quant" as "quantitative" meaning needs a lot of math. Apple and many other tech companies focus a lot on quantitative skills during interview because it is a very easy and fast way to weed out resumes and candidates. just something to think about when you applying for jobs with tech firms

    as for the Apple retail in during college question, i refer back to what i wrote above. long story short, i think you can use your time more efficiently on other activities that can put you in a better position to get in Apple. don't worry about the undergrad or masters comment... in retrospect, it is not applicable to your situation for quite awhile

    *note: be wary of other jobs that target college kids, waitering, bank teller, that sort of thing

     
  20. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    If it wasn't clear, I'm a junior right now.

    Overall, I'm just not sure if I want to do retail or corporate. My parents are really pushing me to go to college and get a job at corporate, but I'm simply not sure if that's what I want to do. I know it just requires a lot of thinking, but I honestly don't know where to begin even with that.Could we walk through it together through PMs or something?
     
  21. benzslrpee macrumors 6502

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    sure, shoot me a PM

     
  22. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I did that... I think. I've never used the PM system here before.
     
  23. Tsuchiya macrumors 68020

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    Retail is a dead end. Look into corporate if you want to work with Apple proper.
     
  24. Dj64Mk7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Why do you say this? And what's so special about corporate?
     
  25. Tsuchiya macrumors 68020

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    The glass ceiling is well known. Apple Retail is a significant part of the company for sure, but you are just the sales and support arm of "Apple, Inc". If you have the choice, why not work for the main company and try and flesh out a long term career?
     

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