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World Summit-How 'green' is Apple?
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if anyone is a kook...
if anyone is a kook...
have you guys heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black i think MacRumorSkeptic may be a bit potty
i agree with most of what telomar has said.
plus, this pseudo-isolationist viewpoint that so many americans take really bothers me. you want to be involved here but not there. give advice but not take it. your "president"* is not dangerous because he is clever...
the environment (especially sea and air) has no borders. we're all in the same boat on this one one. i for one believe the onus is on the countries that have best profited from the environment in the past to set a good example. that is what Rio and Kyoto should have been about, setting a good example.
what sort of example do you think the US and Oz (where i live now) are currently setting. one of self interest and (very) shortsightedness.
american (and many other 'western' countries) only have such great
air/water quality because so much of our heavy, dirty industry is shipped off to poorer countries where labour and environmental laws are more lax.
as telomar said, environmentally friendly manufacturing is good business and will pay off for many companies in the long run. i for one one would be so much more prouder of my mac if it had a smaller environmental footprint.
and for what it's worth there are quite a few US companies that downright deserve financial ruin for their crimes.
lets hope apple doesn't join them.
i_b_joshua
*GW Bush was not elected president so much as declared president by his cronies. the Supreme Court stopped the vote recount in Florida because the outcome looked like it would (in the courts own words) '...threaten irreparable harm to petitioner [Bush], and to the country by casting a cloud upon what he [Bush] claims to be the legitimacy of his election.' As Mike Moore puts it 'In other words, if we let all the votes be counted and they come out in Gore's favor, and Gore wins, well, that will impair Bush's ability to govern once we install him as "President"' - Stupid White Men 2001
if anyone is a kook...
have you guys heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black i think MacRumorSkeptic may be a bit potty
i agree with most of what telomar has said.
plus, this pseudo-isolationist viewpoint that so many americans take really bothers me. you want to be involved here but not there. give advice but not take it. your "president"* is not dangerous because he is clever...
the environment (especially sea and air) has no borders. we're all in the same boat on this one one. i for one believe the onus is on the countries that have best profited from the environment in the past to set a good example. that is what Rio and Kyoto should have been about, setting a good example.
what sort of example do you think the US and Oz (where i live now) are currently setting. one of self interest and (very) shortsightedness.
american (and many other 'western' countries) only have such great
air/water quality because so much of our heavy, dirty industry is shipped off to poorer countries where labour and environmental laws are more lax.
as telomar said, environmentally friendly manufacturing is good business and will pay off for many companies in the long run. i for one one would be so much more prouder of my mac if it had a smaller environmental footprint.
and for what it's worth there are quite a few US companies that downright deserve financial ruin for their crimes.
lets hope apple doesn't join them.
i_b_joshua
*GW Bush was not elected president so much as declared president by his cronies. the Supreme Court stopped the vote recount in Florida because the outcome looked like it would (in the courts own words) '...threaten irreparable harm to petitioner [Bush], and to the country by casting a cloud upon what he [Bush] claims to be the legitimacy of his election.' As Mike Moore puts it 'In other words, if we let all the votes be counted and they come out in Gore's favor, and Gore wins, well, that will impair Bush's ability to govern once we install him as "President"' - Stupid White Men 2001
Why? I thought this wasn't true for OS X? There are Unix machines that aren't rebooted for years.
i went to bed and only just now found this thread again, forgive me for my absence when i sparked some interesting debate
rower and co summed it up pretty well
the constitution means little to me, because it has only been adapted to the times in ways which i find to be only the beginning.
and yes, i know that the founding fathers meant for it to be adapted, as i've been to the jefferson memorial in dc and seen that founding father's quote about how a government will not progress if it does not change with the times. but alas, we're not doing enough of that
should we really be allowed to own all the types of guns we can? how about the fact that (as rower said), it's all too easy to buy an election via special interest and corporate money? why wasn't ralph nader allowed to take part in the debates? oh yeah, cause the two party system would be in jeopardy... guess what, a lot of the founding fathers (who you obviously hold in very high esteem) didn't like the 2 party system at all. and one of the founding fathers (i forget if it was washington or a bit later in madison or one of them... sorry) said that if the country meddles in other parts of the world it will only doom itself...
yet what are we doing in iraq/the middle east? don't get me wrong, i think that if we have as much power as we do (we being america) then we should use it for good. but not just what we think is good. not what will benefit us monetarily. but for the good of humanity... but that's just idealism
anyways, that's just a bit of what i think. and as people have said, this should have been about macs and recyclability... not politics
for that, go to the community section thread named "why?"
sorry for the petty name calling. it was late and i've heard some pretty dumb ass things on rush limbaugh lately, as well as a couple other radio show hosts... so i was just reacting to that more than yourself.. my bad
peace
rower and co summed it up pretty well
the constitution means little to me, because it has only been adapted to the times in ways which i find to be only the beginning.
and yes, i know that the founding fathers meant for it to be adapted, as i've been to the jefferson memorial in dc and seen that founding father's quote about how a government will not progress if it does not change with the times. but alas, we're not doing enough of that
should we really be allowed to own all the types of guns we can? how about the fact that (as rower said), it's all too easy to buy an election via special interest and corporate money? why wasn't ralph nader allowed to take part in the debates? oh yeah, cause the two party system would be in jeopardy... guess what, a lot of the founding fathers (who you obviously hold in very high esteem) didn't like the 2 party system at all. and one of the founding fathers (i forget if it was washington or a bit later in madison or one of them... sorry) said that if the country meddles in other parts of the world it will only doom itself...
yet what are we doing in iraq/the middle east? don't get me wrong, i think that if we have as much power as we do (we being america) then we should use it for good. but not just what we think is good. not what will benefit us monetarily. but for the good of humanity... but that's just idealism
anyways, that's just a bit of what i think. and as people have said, this should have been about macs and recyclability... not politics
for that, go to the community section thread named "why?"
sorry for the petty name calling. it was late and i've heard some pretty dumb ass things on rush limbaugh lately, as well as a couple other radio show hosts... so i was just reacting to that more than yourself.. my bad
peace
I have come to the conclusion that all political radio shows are evil. Aside from the BS that Limbaugh spouts I happened to come across a liberal talk show. The host was rambling about how everyone in between the two coasts were uneducated and married their cousins because they are primarily conservative. This country has been fiercely divided in the past 10 years and it a little strange.
oh i hear ya. it's not just the rush limbaughs... the first ones i heard were the liberal ones and they made me just as sick as the conservative ones do....
ahhh well
Re: Re: mmm, highest standard
He is...but just barely:
http://www.time.com/time/digital/cyberelite/07.html
Originally posted by Durandal7
I don't think Steve is a billionaire so the answer would be 0.
He is...but just barely:
http://www.time.com/time/digital/cyberelite/07.html
Don't get caught up in all the hype... you could run certain types of servers for years but a desktop machine is subject to memory leaks. Memory leaks occur due to flaws in programing and, over time, they build up and your RAM stays allocated to a program that might not even be running.
This is the major reason why I regularly use all 896MB of RAM in my machine and my next machine will have no less than 1GB and more likely 1.5GB. Admittedly, when you put that much RAM into your machine, though, the OS takes over 400MB all by itself just because it can.... you see the speed increase, though.
haha. you're funny sometimes
but an ******* all the time....
ha
nah, that was cool. good humor
if moby makes enough money he could be a billionaire vegan..... but i don't see that happening
Originally posted by alex_ant
What the hell does Jello's Hot Srule mean anyways?
It was a typo and his inability to spell, I think, he meant to write "Jello Shot Droole"
http://www.apple.com/about/environment/
There's some of their corporate info if anybody actually cares. I know recently there was a complaint regarding their environmental practices so I will try and find that later.
There's some of their corporate info if anybody actually cares. I know recently there was a complaint regarding their environmental practices so I will try and find that later.
Originally posted by alex_ant
What the hell does Jello's Hot Srule mean anyways?
i'll tell you when you tell me what Ale x_ant means
eh?
that's not how you spell "drool" come on...
ha.
we won't even get into your name...
thanks for the link there telomar
HEY, that's not far... my name is actually madamimadam but that had already been taken so I added my middle names, Timothy and Allen, to make madamimadamtimallen.
madamimadam is cool because it is the same both forwards and backwards like hannah and pop.
And... well... madam... I'm Adam.
That's awesome! Your name was just gibberish to me until I paid more attention. It's a palindrome. The most brilliant nick I've ever seen.Originally posted by madamimadamtimallen
HEY, that's not far... my name is actually madamimadam but that had already been taken so I added my middle names, Timothy and Allen, to make madamimadamtimallen.
madamimadam is cool because it is the same both forwards and backwards like hannah and pop.
And... well... madam... I'm Adam.
(Palindromes are very hard to make)My middle name is Anthony, so that's where the "ant" comes from, and it's abbreviated like that in honor of the great '80s pop star Adam Ant who is now insane. It's nowhere near as clever as madamimadam, though.
Who in the blazes took "madamimadam," anyway?
It's Chinese for "massive cock."Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i'll tell you when you tell me what Ale x_ant means
eh?
Don't want to excite the censors with the evil p-word! *****! *****! *****!
Originally posted by alex_ant
It's Chinese for "massive cock."
Don't want to excite the censors with the evil p-word! *****! *****! *****!
ahh.... i see... going with the irony thing eh???
also, madamimadamtimallen is not a palindrome... eh? sure, madamimadam is but not with the addition....
so it loses something..
but yeah, who the heck took it? you should hunt them down and... yadda yadda.
Originally posted by alex_ant
That's awesome! Your name was just gibberish to me until I paid more attention. It's a palindrome. The most brilliant nick I've ever seen.
My middle name is Anthony, so that's where the "ant" comes from, and it's abbreviated like that in honor of the great '80s pop star Adam Ant who is now insane. It's nowhere near as clever as madamimadam, though.
Who in the blazes took "madamimadam," anyway?
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW... I have NEVER seen a madamimadam on the forums but the bastard took MY name.
**EVIL STARE**