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worn clutch

I would contact corporate and complain because 19k is clearly a warranty problem. No clutch should fail in the first 60k miles. My last car I killed the clutch at 90k miles. My dad Accord had the clutch replaced at 130k.

19k even 100% city driving should have zero problems. My current SE-R is at 54k and has ZERO problems with the clutch and it has never been replaced. Also I am not the easiest person on clutches so.....
 
FX120 said:
Double clutching results in a smoother shift, that is faster as well. Less wear on the clutch, and less wear on the passengers.
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explain.
double clutching can be smoother but if you drive correctly it should be smooth already.
faster? having to press it twice and then rev match it then clutch it would be slow, as i shift let off gas slide gear out (explained earlier) then clutch then gear and when the clutch is let go, the revs should have dropped enough.

less wear... i don't have anything.

and less wear on the passengers, as i already said, you should be shifting smoothly already anyway.


and on downshifting when slowing down and on the brakes you can lightly tap the throttle and the gear will slide out just the same as when up shifting, then you can clutch it then rev match and release.


o and up shifting can be done with sliding the gear out at any rpm (not only when the synchros mesh,,a sdkfls) just a little throttle finesse

now if im wrong i would like to know and learn.
maybe its different on other cars as i drive manual with a heavy duty pressure plate, some different compound clutch (i think most are organic), and a 5lb flywheel.


LumbermanSVO said:
Kenworth
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nice. thats one thing i have never driven.
 
Seat adjustment for me was a huge problem. Even after I replaced a clutch and flywheel, I could never get comfortable with the seat being so close to the steering wheel that I banged my left knee on the steering column constantly. Ended up with a tiptronic (automatic) transmission and my knee got better almost immediately...:eek:
 
benlangdon said:
nice. thats one thing i have never driven.
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It is much more fun and challenging to me than anything else I've driven And now I even teach it! :D





As for double clutching, in a car with functioning syncros there is no need. If you can't figure out how to shift properly and smoothly single clutching it then learning new ways to shift wont help.

I have only double clutched one vehicle I have driven(excluding big trucks), that was a 1965 F100 with a "three-on-the-tree." the shift tube going down the steering column was splitting so I needed to be as easy on it as I could, double clutching helped some.

Every other vehicle I've owned I've either single clutched or floated. Floating is when you don't use the clutch at all. If done right(not easy to learn) there is actually less wear on the clutch and transmission than using the clutch. It is actually harder to float on a transmission with syncros than one without.
 
benlangdon said:
?
explain.
double clutching can be smoother but if you drive correctly it should be smooth already.
faster? having to press it twice and then rev match it then clutch it would be slow, as i shift let off gas slide gear out (explained earlier) then clutch then gear and when the clutch is let go, the revs should have dropped enough.

less wear... i don't have anything.

and less wear on the passengers, as i already said, you should be shifting smoothly already anyway.


and on downshifting when slowing down and on the brakes you can lightly tap the throttle and the gear will slide out just the same as when up shifting, then you can clutch it then rev match and release.


o and up shifting can be done with sliding the gear out at any rpm (not only when the synchros mesh,,a sdkfls) just a little throttle finesse

now if im wrong i would like to know and learn.
maybe its different on other cars as i drive manual with a heavy duty pressure plate, some different compound clutch (i think most are organic), and a 5lb flywheel.



nice. thats one thing i have never driven.
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Less wear on the clutch because you're manually matching engine speed with the input side of the transmission while out of gear, meaning when shifting into gear there will be less slipping of the clutch required, and therefor easier on the transmission.

To quote from Wikipedia:
Keeping the clutch pedal depressed while in neutral, as is performed during a typical shift, gives more economy of driver motion and effort compared to double clutching. Taken to extreme, sequential gearbox shifts and non-clutched shifts are also very quick and effortless. However, significant wear can take place on the separated clutch plates any time the engine and transmission have varying drive loads. In simple terms, wear occurs the more the clutch has to "slip" to match revolutions between the engine and transmission. Double clutching can minimize this clutch plate wear by encouraging matching of engine and transmission RPMs before the clutch plates are engaged.
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Double clutching also results in a faster shift (with proper technique) as you will not be waiting for the syncros to bring the input side up to speed, instead forcing them to the correct speed with the engine, and after the shift is completed your engine output speed is also correct.

Taking the time to learn correct double clutch technique is well worth it IMO. It's not that hard.
 
LumbermanSVO said:
Every other vehicle I've owned I've either single clutched or floated. Floating is when you don't use the clutch at all. If done right(not easy to learn) there is actually less wear on the clutch and transmission than using the clutch. It is actually harder to float on a transmission with syncros than one without.
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so thats what its called, floating.
ya have never been able to put it back into gear smoothly.
 
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