Resolved Worst E-Bay Experience Ever

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by MeatRocket, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. MeatRocket, Jun 19, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2013

    MeatRocket macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2013
    In the Sandbox
    I'll preface this by saying I have a 100% feedback of 194 on E-Bay as both a seller & a buyer. I've bought & sold everything from R/C helicopters, 2 motorcycles and even a car on E-Bay.

    I was looking to get a Mac and couldn't quite decide on what to get. I settled on a MacBook Air 13.3" i5/8GB/256GB and found the perfect one on E-Bay that even had a few years of AppleCare left on it.

    I bid to win, and win I did! Then the seller (who is a frequent poster on this very forum) wouldn't complete the sale! She said my address showed as an APO and she doesn't sell to overseas people. I explained that the Air would be shipping to my E-Bay & PayPal confirmed address in the States and that she would be fully covered by E-Bay Seller Protection.

    She still wouldn't budge & opened a case with E-Bay. I refused to cancel and E-Bay closed the cancellation request in my favor. The auction was over & I was still listed as the winner, nothing had changed. She went ahead and relisted the Air as a "Buy-It-Now" for LESS than I won the auction for!

    WTH? It almost seems to me she was bent on not selling to someone serving overseas. Maybe she's a typical liberal drone who can't think outside of "I'm not supporting an unjust war" or some crap like that. I just feel really insulted & humiliated by some complete ass online. At least she'll sleep well tonight while I'm watching out for her ass in the Sandbox.

    Anyway, I left her negative feedback. I'm going to stick with buying from reputable dealers for a while, even if it is at full price.
  2. SilverOath, Jun 19, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2013

    SilverOath macrumors member

    Apr 25, 2013
    I'd suggest considering the sellers position.

    eBay rarely sides with the seller when things go side ways - I think your situation is case in point of this. The seller may not be as confident and experienced using eBay as you are. I'd doubt their reluctance has anything to do with being a liberal or against the military - most people who are not in the military have very little experience with APOs etc. Additionally many scams involve the 'buyer' trying to convince the seller that they are indeed safe to ship.

    Can you really blame the seller for not wanting to risk a high value item in uncharted territory?

    I do hope you find the system you were/are looking for to Mac out on.
  3. Omnius macrumors 6502a

    Jul 23, 2012
    That's pretty horrible. I once met a mail clerk that refused to believe that APO and FPO were actual things. It's shocking how ignorant people are.
  4. MRU Suspended


    Aug 23, 2005
    And you think that's the worst e-bay experience ever? Seriously?

    Wow we have very different definitions of 'worst'.....
  5. aluren macrumors 65816

    Sep 9, 2008
    Lol yeah at least the OP didn't lose money. OP is very lucky that this was the worst for him.
  6. drsox macrumors 65816


    Apr 29, 2011
    One of worse type of problems is for people to claim stuff doesn't work after you send it and then claim a refund. And, then they claim to have sent it back to you !

    EBay and PayPal seem to side with the "buyer" in these cases.
  7. LaunchpadBS macrumors 6502a

    Nov 11, 2008
    I've gotta say shipping overseas with eBay and Paypal as a seller makes me very nervous, I'd rather not sell overseas at all. Thing is the seller should make that abundantly clear from the word go.
  8. Lunfai macrumors 65816


    Nov 21, 2010
    Bad topic, imagine if you did scam her then she would have has a scenario that is 1000 times worse then yours. This is why I sell in my country only!, shipping is VERY expensive as it is, and since its such a costly product I wouldn't risk sending it far away.

    I know you won the auction but you need to think of the position of the seller.
  9. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

    Yes, we often humiliate ourselves with things we write online.
  10. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus


    Jul 24, 2002
    Your options appear to be:

    1) Get over it and move on
    2) Take her to court for failure to complete contract
  11. yg17 macrumors G5


    Aug 1, 2004
    St. Louis, MO

    Yes, all of us liberals just hate everyone in the military and get back at them by not sending them a MacBook they ordered on eBay. :rolleyes:
  12. Kissaragi macrumors 68020

    Nov 16, 2006
    Sounds like you weren't the ideal buyer either.
  13. 2020mike macrumors 6502

    May 14, 2012
    Bad luck, but just move on and buy a different Mac. Don't over analyze the situation as a political resentment.
  14. Mr. McMac Suspended

    Mr. McMac

    Dec 21, 2009
    Far away from liberals
    Give me your ebay user id so I put you on my blocked buyer/bidders list.
  15. oldhifi macrumors 65816


    Jan 12, 2013
  16. MeatRocket thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2013
    In the Sandbox
    You clearly missed the part in my post that it was going to my confirmed PayPal address in the US, as did the seller on E-Bay.

    And so did you...

    And so did you...

    I already got another one on it's way to my house in the States now.

    Don't know exactly what you mean. All I wanted her to do was send it to my PayPal verified address in the US. The same one where she'd be protected by the Seller Protection. I never asked her to send it overseas.

    Nonsense statement. I did nothing any different than any other Ebay buyer - I asked her to send it to my PayPal verified address.

    There are a lot of people who comment without reading (or at least understanding) the part about sending to the PayPal verified address in the US. The item would've never left the US.
  17. MeatRocket thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2013
    In the Sandbox
    So now the seller is sending me private messages on MacRumors threatening me with retaliation for the negative feedback left. It may not be the worst Ebay experience ever, but it's getting worse.
  18. jkeekij macrumors regular

    Oct 17, 2011
    Looks like the feedback has been removed on both sides, so there isn't much to be done at this point. Chalk this up as a learning experience (flaky sellers) and move on.

    Glad you found another machine to your liking.
  19. samiwas macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Really? This was your first thought? And you expect anyone to take you seriously?

    One of the number one scams on eBay is the "I'm overseas and need this shipped to so-and-so".

    However, if the address was within the States, and to an APO at that, I'm not sure what the concern would be.

    But seriously, drop the liberal and the "I'm protecting you" crap.
  20. Happybunny macrumors 68000

    Sep 9, 2010
    Sounds to me like you have a really big chip on your shoulder there.
  21. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    I would have done what the seller did too. Anything overseas is a red flag to me, legit or not. Best to avoid all together imo as a seller

    Can't fault the seller for protecting their interests when they encounter things that give rise to red flags
  22. SilverOath macrumors member

    Apr 25, 2013
    If your 'verified PayPal / eBay addressed showed in the US and not as your overseas APO -- how would she even know you had a APO or were overseas? It sounds like your story has a few holes.
  23. TheAppleFairy macrumors 68020


    Mar 28, 2013
    The Clinton Archipelago unfortunately

    APO AE and APO AP are USA mailing addresses, yes they are overseas, but rest assured they are U.S. mailing addresses.


    He said he would have her ship it to the confirmed address in the OP.
  24. ucfgrad93, Jun 20, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2013

    ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    Agreed. Fortunately the OP didn't lose any money, so it is time to just move on.
  25. techn0lady, Jun 20, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2013

    techn0lady macrumors regular

    Apr 10, 2010
    You think that experience was bad, MeatRocket? That's nothing these days - let me tell you mine :)

    So I have this laptop for sale and I sell it on eBay and I specifically exclude in my seller prefs all overseas sales and APO addresses to avoid scams and Nigerian Princes who just inherited a bazillion dollars. Ebay glitches and allows someone with an overseas address to bid and win on my auction (grrrrrr!). I know that the person is overseas because when I go to print the shipping label the address comes up as an APO (which I google and it says Afghanistan) and even worse there is a big red "invalid" label right next to the ebay shipping address on the label page. wtf eBay ??

    So the next day I write to the seller (he had not paid me yet) , explain the situation and actually apologize on eBay's behalf and ask if we can mutually cancel the auction (the seller apparently did not realize that APOs do not accept signature delivery so I lose my seller protection on my 1000 laptop). The seller declines my offer cancellation and writes back that "Oh no problem , you're going to ship the laptop to my wife in the states who has a different address and by the way I'll pay you in a couple of days"

    Oh...ohhh... overseas address....ship to a different address ... payment delayed and I don't even know what the "invalid" label eBay put up on the attempted shipping address means but I'm pretty sure it's not a good thing. None of this sounds good so I call eBay and explain the situation to them - they agree they messed up (customer service was great btw! - frankly I was surprised) and cancel the auction and refund my seller fees.

    Super! Except when I send another polite email to the buyer explaining what just happened and again apologizing for the inconvenience (it was really neither of our faults) the buyer comes back with an increasingly series of hostile emails accusing me of having weird political beliefs and not supporting our troops. Which is very weird because I served 7 years in the U.S. Army medical Corps and it turns out that this crazy buyer isn't even a service person at all but a private I.T. contractor over there working for a big corp He makes like 100K a year for his "service" - I made 406 a month for mine (free food though!) Oh - and he leaves me bad feedback and ebay mails me to "enjoy my tarnished reputation".

    So I call eBay again and get the bad feedback removed and after wasting a couple hours of my time on something that should have taken 10 minutes had the buyer been reasonable it's all over (except that the buyer sent me an eBay email promising to blog his experience all over the internet :( )

    So cheer up MeatRocket! It could have been worse - you could have had a crazy effed up transaction like mine with a crazy messed up buyer like I did - it could have been a whole lot worse.

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