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Worst of Apple Silicon Macs?
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The thread title should be called "Least good of the Silicon Macs".
The ones being voted as the "worst" just reflect peoples different needs, preferences and budgets, not that they are bad choices....none of them are bad.
This is a very misleading thread for any prospective purchaser.
The ones being voted as the "worst" just reflect peoples different needs, preferences and budgets, not that they are bad choices....none of them are bad.
This is a very misleading thread for any prospective purchaser.
The m1 mbp is a better mba m1
Runs just as cool, but can use a fan in case of hard work
Has 35% better battery (I think) which is incredible
Has brighter screen with better contrast
Better speakers
Gudi
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The thing is, enterprises used to buy Windows PCs. Everyone who bought a computer for themselves and therefore cared a little bit about the user experience, preferred a Macintosh. To say there's now a Mac, which is such a bad deal that only enterprises would buy it (for their most-neglected employees), is an alarm signal.
Yebubbleman
macrumors 603
Why all the hate for the M2 13-inch MacBook Pro? Sure, it kept the Touch Bar longer than anyone thought, but did that really make it a bad computer? Same for the M2 13-inch MacBook Air. In both cases, I can see a case being made for the 256GB drives being terrible, but that's only on the base model! Also, that same problem impacts 512GB drives on anything M2 Pro or M2 Max, which isn't listed.
1BadManVan
macrumors 68040
I think at the time was because while the air got a full redesign, the 13" m2 pro kept the very old chassis which I think turned a lot of people off of it, just looked too dated to justify spending more for it. Besides the fan and Touch Bar, there was nothing superior about it compared to the M2 air. The air had the nicer and larger screen, improved speakers, better webcam, MagSafe charging etc.
Just wasn't a good value at all. The airs main issue was The big downgrade in ssd speed, that definitely soured a lot of people when it first came out. I had an m2 air but with upgraded storage so I didn't suffer from the low ssd speeds but I can see why it bothered many who were eyeing up the base model version and see it was downgraded from the previous gen
Yebubbleman
macrumors 603
I definitely get all of that. It just seems like the hate wasn't about the product itself being any worse than its immediate predecessor, but rather it not having a new design. Seems highly superficial to me.
I definitely get the hate for 256GB M2 Macs all around; it was an obvious mistake on Apple's part and a bad look to have an SSD that is slower than both M1 and T2 based Macs. But, other than the design overstaying its welcome and 256GB models being junk, I don't know why the M2 13-inch MacBook Pro should be seen as any worse than its immediate predecessor (and the poll doesn't reflect that kind of hate for the M1 13-inch MacBook Pro).
uller6
macrumors 65816
I have a 256 M2 air and it’s…totally fine. I don’t get what all the fuss is about. Sure, the SSD isn’t as fast as others, but the computer doesn’t feel slow at all during regular use. IMO this is a complete nothing-burger panic from spec-chasers.
My M1 iMac's screen died just after the 3 year mark. Reading around the internet, this is a design flaw with the screen power cable. It was a nice machine while it lasted, but without a working screen an iMac isn't great. Apple wanted $750 to fix it out of warranty.
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AdamBuker
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I'm surprised the poll didn't include the M2 Ultra Mac Pro, but then again it would have won hands down. And , It wasn't a bad computer provided your use case and budget fit the machine. It was just a bad fit for the workstation market in general and over priced. I think Apple missed the chance to keep it relevant by not having the SOC on an upgrade-able daughter card.
100% agreed. There was so much wasted potentital with this model, especially as the successor to the (legitimately great) Intel version.
1BadManVan
macrumors 68040
Because the lack of redesign made it an inferior product to the cheaper air alternative. It wasn't just design, it now had a worse screen, speakers, webcam, bluetooth, no MagSafe and also was hit with the 256gb speed downgrade for MORE money than the new m2 air. It just made it a very hard device to justify anyone buying.
I don't blame anyone for not being impressed with it
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Agreed, but it was even worse than that:
The entire board, which held the SoC, SSD, and I/O was user replaceable: Just slide the old board out and put a new board in.
So no redesign was needed. With the existing design, they could have allowed users to upgrade from the Intel Mac Pro to the AS Mac Pro by just replacing that board. And allowed future upgrades to new AS generations in the same manner.
Everything else--the case, PS, fans, air ducting, etc., was beautifully made and could have lasted over a decade.
As you say, if Apple provided an upgrade path for the MP that involved just replacing the board, that would have made the MP far more appealing.
It's a wasteful shame that Apple instead required users to buy a whole new box, consigning the old box to the scrap heap. Apple pays a lot of lip service to being green, but what matters is actions, not words.
Yebubbleman
macrumors 603
Are these not byproducts of the design (or, if we're getting technical, the accouterments common to that design)?
Right; that's if you're configuring a base model or comparing base models to base models. Not saying that the above feature differences wouldn't still remain; just that the SSD problems ONLY affected 256GB SSD versions.
I don't blame anyone being excited by it. But I would think that, circa WWDC 2022 when this Mac first debuted, IT departments not yet ready to pivot accessory types would've appreciated one more year of a mature (and finally stabilized) design.
In terms of Silicon generation I think M2 was the least interesting one
In terms of the hardware it’s difficult for me to rate.i know many don’t like the 24” iMac but I love it.
That said I will at some point make the move to a Mini
In terms of the hardware it’s difficult for me to rate.i know many don’t like the 24” iMac but I love it.
That said I will at some point make the move to a Mini