Is El Capitan the first Mac OS X version that actively broke quite some third party software?
I wouldn't say actively broke.
Notable fall-out from the security policy of El Capitan included Flavours 2. http://flavours.interacto.net/#faq
Is El Capitan the first Mac OS X version that actively broke quite some third party software?
How was Mavericks a bloody disaster? Curious for your perspective.I skipped 10.0-10.2 and went straight from OS 9 to 10.3, so i can only comment on 10.3 and above
-Mavericks (Worst)
-Panther
-Leopard
-Lion
-El Capitan
-Snow Leopard
-Yosemite
-Mountain Lion
-Tiger (Best)
Loved Lion and Leopard in terms of features but they were slow.
Mavericks was a bloody disaster. El Capitan is good just a bit boring. Snow Leopard was rock solid, but again a bit boring. Yosemite was great, but got slow in the end. Mountain Lion was much better than Lion AND also great with new features and stabltily. Tiger was great. Faster than Panther which I had issues with, and it had a ton of great features.
How was Mavericks a bloody disaster? Curious for your perspective.
Haha, SO glad I wasn't the only one, then! Mavericks was definitely a disaster for me as well. Examples for me match yours, as well as Time Machine not working properly, Migration Assistant crashing and forcing a full system shutdown, wallpapers not being preserved after upgrading from a previous system, slow. I did at least 4 reinstalls of Mavericks. It was just... ugh. I didn't understand why so many people loved Mavericks. Yosemite fixed ALL the issues I had.Buggy, slow featureless release. Corrupted 3 of my hard drives, destroyed battery life and an endless garage of wifi issues (across multiple machines). I can cope with a slow release (Lion) as it added a heck ton of new features but Mavericks added so little yet was so buggy. I ended up downgrading multiple family members and having unhappy clients, more so than any other release.
Amongst other issues, I had: The finder hanging frequency, overflow in finder out of sync with the file, spotlight crashes (Frequent), safari suddenly not being able to go forward or back, safari randomly crashing etc etc. I think by the time Yosemite was released, I'd done 6 clean installs of Mavericks.
… I fell for the "bug fixes and no new features" line. …
… Corrupted 3 of my hard drives …
Whoa. Almost makes me wonder if they were developing two concurrent OSes. What new design?! I'd like to see that. (Unless it's more Ive-flat-white-crayons stuff, then I wouldn't.)Interesting, http://web.archive.org/web/20151027015753/http://www.apple.com/osx/all-features/ "refines the elegant experience introduced in OS X Yosemite" was originally http://web.archive.org/web/20141018235327/http://www.apple.com/osx/all-features "introduces a beautiful new design, useful new connections between your Mac and iOS devices, and amazing new features for the apps you use most.".
I doubt that HFS Plus in Mavericks was any more, any less prone to corruption than HFS Plus in Mountain Lion.
What do you mean by corruption?
That was referring to Yosemite's new UI and design.Whoa. Almost makes me wonder if they were developing two concurrent OSes. What new design?! I'd like to see that. (Unless it's more Ive-flat-white-crayons stuff, then I wouldn't.)
Ah. That's not how I understood @grahamperrin but when I look at the dates it's clear. Thanks.That was referring to Yosemite's new UI and design.
… Disk Utility … I had done all the disk checks before upgrading and it was perfectly healthy. …
public beta was the worst. you could hardly move windows around till 10.2. everything was very stuttery.
The survey needs to be updated to include El Capitan. I'm curious what people think about it compared to that lovely work of artistic creation known as Yosemite....which I see is second only to Lion in the "worst" category.
The survey needs to be updated to include El Capitan. I'm curious what people think about it compared to that lovely work of artistic creation known as Yosemite....which I see is second only to Lion in the "worst" category.
THANK YOU to the Thread-Opener and ALL members posting here !!
This Thread gives some good idea of what was happening with the OSX-line.
I was searching EXACTLY for a Thread like this to know more about this and I hope many more Users will bring in their personal experience and judgement.
As for me, I cannot vote because I had a lot of luck and I was always very prudent:
switched from the Windows world in 2008, by chance with Snow Leopard and stayed happy with it until one year ago.
Updated to ML in 2015 and I am still happy. So happily no "experience" with all the issues I read about with all the other OSX..
But I´d give a very good judgement for both SL and ML.
I always ask PROFESSIONALS doing nothing but service for apple equipment to tell me what THEY think was the best in terms of STABILITY. And even they didn´t recommend for a long time the last 3 OSX releases at all. Thank them for their honesty! Their will to share their experience with me saved me a lot of lifetime preventing all the anger - this is regularly confirmed when I read about all the issues with the "fantastic new OSX 10.xx.xx" .
This method works very good with everything: If you need the best lawyer, ask a judge to tell you what lawyer he´d chose, if you want to buy a new car, don´t trust the vendor, go to a service-enterprise and ask them about their experience with the new model, and so on..
My method: "NEVER EVER buy a car or switch to a new Software/OS or anything as product of importance before at least one year has passed.. " works well. No need to be "early adopter" which too often ends up in being masochist losing a lot of time and money as well...
The last time the servicemen (of an apple-certified enterprise mostly doing service for professionals) talked with me (two months ago while 3 MBPs of me and my friends were running the test to exclude the infamous GPU-issues, so we had some time enough) they stated that "NOW" the last version of Mavericks should work.
So - after being well with SL and ML - I did a research to know about the newer OSX-versions here, particularly for Mavericks….
Some remarks:
- Everyone should tell on what version of the concerned OSX-Type she/he based his/her judgement.
- Since the latest OSX are more and more bloody and reckless beta testing on the shoulders of the customers it would be logical to judge on nothing but the "expired" OSX, as i.e. 10.6.8, 10.8.5 and so on. Because apple seemingly is more and more incapable to release mature Operation systems. I´d cal it the "banana-method" as bananas are shipped premature and they get mature after purchase in the hands of the customer…
- As there are very different opinions about Mavericks I am still thinking I will stay with the last version of ML (10.8.5) working smooth and flawless on my upgraded "old" apple machines - as I stay with IOS7 as well…
Thanks again