Worst year for Apple. Why?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by Gershon, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Gershon macrumors member


    Jan 28, 2009
    1) iPhone 3GS build problems. Usual cracking and other problems. Very bad.

    2) Those who've custom-ordered MacBook Pros with the 500GB, 7,200rpm hard drive option are facing multiple problems that appear related to the drive's behavior.

    Participants in Apple's support forums and elsewhere note that the affected hard drives, most of which appear to be Seagate Momentus 7200.4 models, will periodically click and then beep. Most of the time, the drive will also temporarily stop accessing data, stalling out the system until it resumes. At least one owner with a custom-installed Hitachi drive also reports the issue.

    Many of the buyers already believe that it's the anti-drop sensor in the drive which is at fault, but the problem occurs even when the system is level and motionless on a desk. Talking to MacNN, Mac upgrade house Other World Computing speculates that the Seagate motion sensors may be conflicting with what Apple itself offers to guard the drive, confusing the disk and forcing it to unnecessarily wind down.

    Customers say that Apple support now appears to be aware of the issue but doesn't have a permanent fix in place. Some report that the most recent hard drive replacements under warranty are solving the problem, but this hasn't been broadly confirmed as of this writing.

    The issue isn't the first that the new MacBook Pros have encountered; enthusiasts buying third-party solid-state drives found their SATA speeds halved, at least until Apple provided a firmware update.

    3) Apple recalls some iPod nano models in South Korea

    Macs aren't the only Apple devices facing a confirmed flaw this week, as the company's South Korean branch is now recalling early iPod nanos.

    The move will let owners of original iPod nanos, sold in the country between October 2005 and December 2006, receive a replacement if they believe the battery might overheat and trigger a fire. Four instances of overheating or even exploding batteries have been reported in South Korea since December of this year, drawing media attention and encouraging the company to take action before its image hurt any further.

    Korea's recall follows a similar gesture made for Japanese owners after a number of publicized incidents were reported in the neighboring Asian state.

    While one of the largest companies pressed to exchange products over battery concerns, it isn't the last. A total of 46 fires and minor explosions have been reported in South Korea over the past five years and prompted a new law taking effect this month that will require all devices with lithium-ion batteries undergo extra testing to minimize the risk of fires from the environment or from shock damage.

    :mad: Why can't :apple: step up on its quality control? Although my iPod Nano, iPhone 3G and souped-up MBP does not have any of these problems, I really hope that Apple should step up on its QC. I don't know what on earth is up with their QC recently. :(

    Your thoughts?
  2. applehappy macrumors regular

    Jun 22, 2007
    Although my iPod Nano, iPhone 3G and souped-up MBP does not have any of these problems, I really hope that Apple should step up on its QC. I don't know what on earth is up with their QC recently. :(

    Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

    You said it all at the end. YOU haven't experienced any of the QC problems, but your perception is that there is a "major" problem. My thought? You need to read your post and realize that there is NOTHING to read here. "Worst Year Ever?" Apple is raking in money, making the best of the best products (read a few reviews on ANY of them) and setting new trends in every industry they touch. My experience is that Apple products are very well made, especially the s/w, and in the instances when I have had a problem, they have taken care of it right away.
    Do you have any idea how many nano's as a percentage of the total sold worldwide have been recalled? How about how many iPhones actually have cracks or other problems?:mad:
  3. alFR macrumors 68020

    Aug 10, 2006
    Most of your post looks like a cut and paste (without attribution) from a news site.

    [Edit] - yup, from appleinsider. Steal others' work often?
  4. svndmvn Guest

    Nov 6, 2007
    well then I guess Appleinsider doesn't know what else to write about.
    I've had many iPhone 3Gs and one 3GS, I'm pretty sure this last one has better built quality.
    I agree this shouldn't be in the iPhone section and even the article states the iPod nano thing happened before with Japan, the iPods weren't made this year either. IMO, it's all not even Apple's fault, since Apple only pays others to make its products, there are no Apple factories if I'm not mistaking.
  5. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

    Feb 4, 2008
    Any electronics product will have flaws. When you're a company that literally is making millions of devices, you're going to have some flawed ones.

    I have no idea what the meaning of your post is. You complain about quality control, yet one of your three complaints is about a recall. That is quality control. It's a defective product, so Apple is fixing it. I had that happen with a MBP battery, and they fixed it.

    Seriously, don't believe everything you read on here. This is a RUMORS site and therefore has a lot of BS thrown around. Even if stuff is true, you're likely to think it's much worse than it really is if you don't find your information elsewhere.
  6. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    Sooooo… no problems for you, yet you claim there is a huge problem with Apple's QC.

    Perhaps some anecdotal evidence from your side would help? Maybe something like:
    "OMFG. I am on my 600th iPhone :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: etcetera."

    Otherwise your argument is a bit dodgy. ;)
  7. Igantius macrumors 65816

    Apr 29, 2007
    That's you've only being following Apple for one year?

    I think most people would say that the 1990's were a pretty bad period for the company - in 1997, for example, Apple lost $1 billion and the year before that over $800 million. The Apple Pippin, you think this was a lot succesful than the products launched this year? Or EWorld?

    As the Nineties progressed, the company's epitaph was being written, yet you seriously think this year is the worst for Apple in its history?

    Bless you, you brightened up my morning :D
  8. Halamolo macrumors regular

    Jun 24, 2009
    Oh but there is. Apple needs to invest more on QC!
  9. inf macrumors 6502


    Nov 22, 2006
    Helsinki, Finland
    The OP clearly doesn't even know what he is talking about. The text is a 1:1 copypaste from Appleinsider which he just put up like it was his own thoughts.
  10. svndmvn Guest

    Nov 6, 2007
    unless you mean Apple should re open factories around the US and Ireland I'm afraid there's nothing Apple can do about QC. Apple pays others, that's it.
  11. Igantius macrumors 65816

    Apr 29, 2007
    Well, we all selectively quote – architect was merely suggesting that the OP offered some evidence to back up his claims then people would give it more credence… crazy idea, I know but there you go.

    As have been pointed out, the OP has lifted his remarks from websites and has passed it off as their own – in other words, plagiarism.

    It would have helped the OP if some evidence was cited to give some indication of the scale – simply copying phrases like “Many of the buyers” from AppleInsider doesn’t help much. How many is many? 10%, 75%? 500 or 500,000 buyers?

    Also, production problems aren’t new – these have always existed (and some have been pretty serious), but because of things like forums, the awareness of these problems is greater than, say 15 years ago – doesn’t necessarily mean that product quality is poorer than it used to be.
  12. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    His argument is not his ... he has stolen 99% of what he wrote from neighboring sites.
  13. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    That'll teach me to respond hastily to the Original Post… :D
  14. rhett7660 macrumors G4


    Jan 9, 2008
    Sunny, Southern California
    Speaking of which where is the OP? He/She hasn't come back to this thread....
  15. donlphi macrumors 6502


    May 25, 2006
    Seattle (M$ Country)
    Worst year ever?

    That's pretty hilarious. My first mac was a beige PowerMac G3 266mhz back in 1998. The thing cost a fortune, but it worked great - not the point.

    I remember I had the computer shipped to my workplace because I was living in an apartment and I didn't want to take a chance of missing the delivery. When the computer arrived, the IT person at my job said, "I can't believe you bought that crap. Apple is going to be out of business in 10 years."

    That evening I looked at the stock ticker on AIM and my jaw dropped. Apple was 8.?? I started to believe that guy, but I never bought a PC (I know... very heartfelt) - still not the point.

    Point is, it's over 10 years later and look how far the company has come. The products are better in every way. You listed several little speed bumps along a very successful drive that doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon. It could be much much worse.

    My 2 cents (maybe 1 cent)
  16. thegoldenmackid macrumors 604


    Dec 29, 2006
    dallas, texas
    Stock prices are usually a good indication. And by that measure you are a tad off. Also, we are only half way through the year, why not wait until the release of a major OS update?
  17. PracticalMac macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    "Worst year for Apple. Why?"

    Title is very poor.

    Apple had its worst years in the mid 1990's, and some bad months here and then.

    The recent spat of quality issues exists thought the the industry, not necessarily only for Apple, mainly due to component issues, not finished product.

    It will overcome these issues.
  18. liptonlover macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2008
    ok... this thread gave me a good laugh before bed. Thanks, OP!

    TTFN, Nate
  19. chrono1081 macrumors 604


    Jan 26, 2008
    Isla Nublar
    This is a troll thread obviously from a very uneducated user.

    I find it funny how people always thing some company has bad quality control because of a few MINOR issues that affect a few consumers.

    Flaws will be present in mass marketing but people cant seem to deal with the fact that maybe 1 time out of 50 purchases they may have to *gasp!* exchange something for a new one. Unreal.

    My dvd drive went in my laptop but you don't see me trolling and saying "APPLES QUALITY CONTROL IS HORRIBLE ZOMG" No, when I get back to the states I'll send it in for a replacement. Easy.

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