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Worth upgrading to El Capitan?
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I prefer it to yosemite seems more stable and uses less resources on graphics.
Its offers superior performance, better stability and overall some nice small features. Basically El Cap is a major bug fix for Yosemite.
I agree, make sure everything is updated and compatible beforehand though.
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If you look around in the forum you will find very many users with all kind of problems related to El Capitan.
Although every change in a computer can cause problems, in this case the quantity and variety of bugs reported by people with different Macs is impressive.
In many cases to downgrade is the only solution for those with problems.
I am one of the many users who had to return to Yosemite, but judge by yourself.
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It bears noting that the vast majority of forum users do not bother to report that everything works fine.*******
If you look around in the forum you will find very many users with all kind of problems related to El Capitan.
Although every change in a computer can cause problems, in this case the quantity and variety of bugs reported by people with different Macs is impressive.
In many cases to downgrade is the only solution for those with problems.
I am one of the many users who had to return to Yosemite, but judge by yourself.
Ed
In my case, I've upgraded all of the computers I regularly use, and find El Capitan to work much better than Yosemite.
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OP> I would not be scared off by some of the complaints about El Capitan. This happens with every single OS upgrade. A small number of people have trouble and they rightfully complain, but that does not paint the whole picture. There are bajillions of us who have upgraded with no problems but we don't make threads to report that.
I think some of the reason you are seeing more problem reports with El Capitan is the implementation of system integrity protection (SIP). SIP broke a lot of third party utilities and some apps.
tl;dr Make a backup and upgrade to El Capitan.
I think some of the reason you are seeing more problem reports with El Capitan is the implementation of system integrity protection (SIP). SIP broke a lot of third party utilities and some apps.
tl;dr Make a backup and upgrade to El Capitan.
I would wait at least until 10.11.2 is released. El Capitan here performs better, but I've been experiencing many small bugs compared to Yosemite, in general it feels like a beta version.
Having actually done a lot of beta testing on many different OS's and other software/hardware, El Cap doesn't feel like beta at all. It feels like any other solid but early version release. IMHO
My advice to PO is to wait 2-3 updates before upgrading, El Capitan currently has bugs that may or may not affect you depending on what software you use. It might be a good idea to look at OS X El Capitan Bugs! thread before making decision...
I am curious why anyone install a new OS X shortly after release, its much safer to wait several updates so that worst bugs are squashed before upgrading?
Personally I'm going to wait until 10.11.5 or possibly skip El Capitan completely, it has no real benefits for my needs compared to Mavericks.
I am curious why anyone install a new OS X shortly after release, its much safer to wait several updates so that worst bugs are squashed before upgrading?
Personally I'm going to wait until 10.11.5 or possibly skip El Capitan completely, it has no real benefits for my needs compared to Mavericks.
I've been experiencing so many bugs that I just can't call it a stable version.
I'm usually pretty conservative about doing OS upgrades - did not do Mavericks, waited until Yosemite 10.10.2 and wouldn't have done that if Xcode didn't require an upgrade from ML. BUT ... my 2012 Mini started having kernel panics in 10.10.3 which wasn't fixed in 10.10.4 or 10.10.5. A post in a MacRumors thread suggested it would be fixed in El Capitan so I upgraded one week after it came out and sure enough - no more kernel panics since. And as chrfr suggests, people are going to write about their problems with El Capitan versus their problems solved.
That being said, there were three software programs that had problems with El Capitan. In two cases it was a matter upgrading the software but for the third, a freeware program, the developer had not upgraded (not at all uncommon for developers who develop free programs) so I had to find an alternative. So - YMMV.
You'll struggle to spot any new 'features'. You haven't posted what you're running currently, but if it ain't broke, leave it alone. Or, wait a couple more months.
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By now you have in your thread a nice reflexion of what is going on in real life.
Some people upgraded to El Capitan with no special problems. They tell you therefore to do the jump right now.
Others tried it (I did) and found very serious problems.
Since this is not a discussion about politics, religion or any other controversial matter with people for it and people against it, you should assume that those reporting problems and bugs are sincerely telling the truth.
The old argument mentioned above that only complaining people take the trouble to write and satisfied people don't say so, is, pardon me the expression, bulls***t.
I find that Apple does a lot of wonderful things including the Mac OSX system and countless people in the world think the same.
I am proud of my MP end 2013 (although made by humans and therefore not perfect).
I even bought second hand an old black MB early 2008 and love it.
This post is being written in my good old iPad 2, which shows here and there its age but still serves me good.
Regarding OSX personally I liked the design of Mavericks but even after upgrading to Yosemite I had no serious problems like kernel panics and the like.
Now I tried El Capitan without any opinion for or against it and it made my MP mad to the point it would only shut down by cutting the power supply.
Some people (with or without problems and bugs) believe that there is no hurry.
To upgrade after several updates can only be positive and cause no harm.
I think they are proning a reasonable policy.
Unless you absolutely need right now SIP or any other feature only available in 10.11, why risk to found yourself, (maybe), not among the lucky "AllRight"-upgraders but among the "bug-suffering" ones?
Apple delivers the new OSX free of charge but without any warranty it will satisfy the needs of the user, AFAIK.
This is my personal humble opinion and the way I intend to act.
Ed
That's where I'm at right now as well. Yosemite is working just fine, and it seems as though several things I use have not updated their drivers for El Capitan yet, so why update? My reasoning is that: do I want a nicely working computer with no noticeable problems or do I want a middle finger emoji and split screen (which, while really cool, is probably not something I'd use all that often)? The answer's pretty easy.
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My humble suggestion is to make a booting clone drive of the internal one in an external one.
Next boot from that drive.
Then upgrade that clone drive and see what happens...
In this way you might discover problems without taking any risks in your presently working system.
Ed
If you're happy with Yosemite and its problem free for your usage, then yeah. Keep it, why upgrade if there's no real reason to do so.
As I mentioned in my prior post, the take aways for El Cap are fairly solid, i.e., faster more stable but as I just said if there's no real reason to upgrade, then hold off.
A friend of mine lost 1,5 hour of battery life going from Yosemite 10.10.5 to EL Capitan 10.11.1 (mbpr13 2015) and Antidote can't support Pages :-/
Personally, I will stay with Yosemite until de battery drain will be resolved.
Sorry for my english.
Personally, I will stay with Yosemite until de battery drain will be resolved.
Sorry for my english.