I love that site, it's an old internet classic.aricher said:
This is not a "bad" site, but it is hard to look at.
Check out the links.
http://members.cox.net/lxix/ithurts/index.html
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This is not a "bad" site, but it is hard to look at.
Check out the links.
http://members.cox.net/lxix/ithurts/index.html
Mac basher site
just sent a mail to the administrator of http://mac-sucks.com/
here it is
"Hi there, just a quick e-mail to say you have a truely grate site, so grate you have had the balls to totaly objectify yourself to one side and become bias to one side of the debate. I do admit that there are many things where the WIntel (PC) platform is better than the Mac, however there are some holes you may wish to look at.
1. your links (many of them key points in the argument) are outdated.
2. Alot of your info is also out of date.
3. Yes i do own a mac, and always have, but i also have a PC and it aint to sluggish in the specs front either (NFII ultra infinity mainboard with nVidia nForce2 chipset, 7200rpm 80GB SATA HD, nVidia FX5200 8XAGP graphisc card, AMD Athalon XP3200, 768MB DDR333MHz RAM, TV Card, Soundblaster Audiology pro Soundcard) which i use for the games i cant get for mac, i.e. MS Flightsim & cfs3. For more demanding /processor intensive tasks, like DV editing and video encoding, I have found (through trial) that my mac is faster by far (and i only have an eMac 800MHz G4 1GB PC133 RAM, 5400rpm ultraATA HD Nvidia GeForce4mx400 64MB PC2100 DDR VRAM) which acording to your opinion should be significantly slower, yet i find it to the contrary.
4. the PowerPC G4 processor was designed and released as a direct compeditor to the Intel Pentium III NOT Pentium 4.
5. even x86 procesor manufacturers are realising the MHz Myth (more MHz=better is the MHz Myth) AMD's athalon XP series processors have a reduced Processor pipeline of 21 strages to the 28 stages of the P4 or 34 of P4 EE with HT. more pipeline stages enables higher MHz due to higher operational voltages and lower PNP brakedown voltages. this provides an effectivly faster processor in linier programing with low no's of breaks and dependencies. if the program has lors of breaks and dependincies lower pipeline stages give a faster (effective) processor, hence why a 2.2GHz Athalon XP3200 is speed equivelant of 3.2GHz P4. Apple have worked with IBM 2 produce the powerPC G5 and Motorola (G1, G2, G3 & G4 chips) to reduce the no of pipeline stages in a processor, and the latest G4's have only 5 pipeline stages. Incase you dont know typical programs which have many brakes and dependencies are graphics manipulation, video editing and compiling, sound design and editing, areas in which Apples are usualy used by industry profesionals (for examples look at the diferences between ANTZ and a Bugs Life & SHREK and Monsters Inc, movies animated and rendered on PC's and Macs, you may want to research production and render times for the films)
6. just incase you throw this next point back at me, The G5 (ya know apples 64bit computer) has 100% 32bit support with significant improvement in speed for programs optomised during compiling for the G5. Apple has two versions of osx 10.3. the retail 32bit G3 & G4 optomisation and the 64bit optomisation for the G5, (not available as retail as ALL G5's come with this PRE INSTALLED. ALL developers now are incorperating G5 optomisation, with many including 64bit coded applications included on the install disc (phoroshop CS and Renderman, and even UNREAL tournament 2004)
7. which brings me to my last point. Many game developers are simultaniously developing their games on both platforms, hek the most popular game of the past year (halo) was first developed by bungie in 1996 and shown running on a Powermac G3 at macworld Sanfrancisco in 1997, with not much diference in performance from the MS port.
I would realy love to hear your comments on this mail and if you want i can fully explain the MHz myth.
regards Dave Millar mac and PC user"
i think the info is right.
just sent a mail to the administrator of http://mac-sucks.com/
here it is
"Hi there, just a quick e-mail to say you have a truely grate site, so grate you have had the balls to totaly objectify yourself to one side and become bias to one side of the debate. I do admit that there are many things where the WIntel (PC) platform is better than the Mac, however there are some holes you may wish to look at.
1. your links (many of them key points in the argument) are outdated.
2. Alot of your info is also out of date.
3. Yes i do own a mac, and always have, but i also have a PC and it aint to sluggish in the specs front either (NFII ultra infinity mainboard with nVidia nForce2 chipset, 7200rpm 80GB SATA HD, nVidia FX5200 8XAGP graphisc card, AMD Athalon XP3200, 768MB DDR333MHz RAM, TV Card, Soundblaster Audiology pro Soundcard) which i use for the games i cant get for mac, i.e. MS Flightsim & cfs3. For more demanding /processor intensive tasks, like DV editing and video encoding, I have found (through trial) that my mac is faster by far (and i only have an eMac 800MHz G4 1GB PC133 RAM, 5400rpm ultraATA HD Nvidia GeForce4mx400 64MB PC2100 DDR VRAM) which acording to your opinion should be significantly slower, yet i find it to the contrary.
4. the PowerPC G4 processor was designed and released as a direct compeditor to the Intel Pentium III NOT Pentium 4.
5. even x86 procesor manufacturers are realising the MHz Myth (more MHz=better is the MHz Myth) AMD's athalon XP series processors have a reduced Processor pipeline of 21 strages to the 28 stages of the P4 or 34 of P4 EE with HT. more pipeline stages enables higher MHz due to higher operational voltages and lower PNP brakedown voltages. this provides an effectivly faster processor in linier programing with low no's of breaks and dependencies. if the program has lors of breaks and dependincies lower pipeline stages give a faster (effective) processor, hence why a 2.2GHz Athalon XP3200 is speed equivelant of 3.2GHz P4. Apple have worked with IBM 2 produce the powerPC G5 and Motorola (G1, G2, G3 & G4 chips) to reduce the no of pipeline stages in a processor, and the latest G4's have only 5 pipeline stages. Incase you dont know typical programs which have many brakes and dependencies are graphics manipulation, video editing and compiling, sound design and editing, areas in which Apples are usualy used by industry profesionals (for examples look at the diferences between ANTZ and a Bugs Life & SHREK and Monsters Inc, movies animated and rendered on PC's and Macs, you may want to research production and render times for the films)
6. just incase you throw this next point back at me, The G5 (ya know apples 64bit computer) has 100% 32bit support with significant improvement in speed for programs optomised during compiling for the G5. Apple has two versions of osx 10.3. the retail 32bit G3 & G4 optomisation and the 64bit optomisation for the G5, (not available as retail as ALL G5's come with this PRE INSTALLED. ALL developers now are incorperating G5 optomisation, with many including 64bit coded applications included on the install disc (phoroshop CS and Renderman, and even UNREAL tournament 2004)
7. which brings me to my last point. Many game developers are simultaniously developing their games on both platforms, hek the most popular game of the past year (halo) was first developed by bungie in 1996 and shown running on a Powermac G3 at macworld Sanfrancisco in 1997, with not much diference in performance from the MS port.
I would realy love to hear your comments on this mail and if you want i can fully explain the MHz myth.
regards Dave Millar mac and PC user"
i think the info is right.
Not a pretty website (if that's what we're considering bad here) but very cool hypertext novel - you can lose yourself for hours here:
http://www.unknownhypertext.com/
http://www.unknownhypertext.com/
disclaimer
DISCLAIMER:
the view that the uni of wash has the worst website is in no regards a view of how their faculty, staff, and students are. Nor should it have any reflection of the Evergreen State College, their faculty, staff and students. It does not represent anyone but my opinion and perhaps a few other students. I do have to say that Evergreen State College has a bad website also (which is being redone).
JonGraves said:
DISCLAIMER:
the view that the uni of wash has the worst website is in no regards a view of how their faculty, staff, and students are. Nor should it have any reflection of the Evergreen State College, their faculty, staff and students. It does not represent anyone but my opinion and perhaps a few other students. I do have to say that Evergreen State College has a bad website also (which is being redone).
Best or worst??
I'm not sure if this is the worst or the best, decide for yourself:
http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html
I'm not sure if this is the worst or the best, decide for yourself:
http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html
I don't have an example, but I'll tell you what I hate.
-Sites that play music (usually crap-sounding MIDI) without your consent. It's even worse when you can't turn the crap off. I'm glad I have a mute button right on my keyboard. And these music clips are usually at blasting levels, even if you have your volume at the lowest setting.
Perfect example: link
-Flash sites. In an attempt at making sites look 'cool' or 'modern', bloated flash sites are becoming more prevalent. These sites can be slow, hard to use, noisy, and just too damn flashy! I don't need sound effects and animations every time I move my mouse. Flash sucks even on a broadband connection. "Loading superfluous crap xx%..."
Example: http://www.zippo.com
After a while, the site slows to a crawl, and it's just an overall pain to use.
Unless your site is designed for kids (like Hotwheels.com), leave the Flash out!
I've been wanting to vent about excessive Flash use for awhile now.
Oh, and Microsoft.com is a rat's nest when it comes to finding information!
-Sites that play music (usually crap-sounding MIDI) without your consent. It's even worse when you can't turn the crap off. I'm glad I have a mute button right on my keyboard. And these music clips are usually at blasting levels, even if you have your volume at the lowest setting.
Perfect example: link
-Flash sites. In an attempt at making sites look 'cool' or 'modern', bloated flash sites are becoming more prevalent. These sites can be slow, hard to use, noisy, and just too damn flashy! I don't need sound effects and animations every time I move my mouse. Flash sucks even on a broadband connection. "Loading superfluous crap xx%..."
Example: http://www.zippo.com
After a while, the site slows to a crawl, and it's just an overall pain to use.
Unless your site is designed for kids (like Hotwheels.com), leave the Flash out!
I've been wanting to vent about excessive Flash use for awhile now.
Oh, and Microsoft.com is a rat's nest when it comes to finding information!
yoman said:Definitely an interesting force-quitter web-site. The web site is so bad it annoys you to death and doesn't let you go unless you kill Safari.
Huh? I didn't have a problem getting through the alerts holding down Return.
Benjamin said:
I wonder if anyone noticed this message:
I guess this poor Microshizzle Winders lover didn't know that holding ENTER does work on the Mac.
JonGraves said:
check out my university´s site:
www.gda.itesm.mx
ugly and impossible to find anything.
to enter grades i have to use my full employee id, whereas for other things, just the last 6 digits; and they never tell you which is needed
its optimized for netscape 4.5!!!????
Hey worst or best site ever!!!!
www.badclowns.com !!!
come on you know you love it.
ps. make sure ya speakers are on for full fun!
mas.
www.badclowns.com !!!
come on you know you love it.
ps. make sure ya speakers are on for full fun!
mas.
I thought that I would throw a couple into the ring:
My old employer: Connecting Point Computers
Their god-awful internet service: IVNet
make sure to check out the local businesses page for a good laugh. It is mostly a collection of sites
put together by Connectin.... blah. I dont even want to say the name again...
My old employer: Connecting Point Computers
Their god-awful internet service: IVNet
make sure to check out the local businesses page for a good laugh. It is mostly a collection of sites
put together by Connectin.... blah. I dont even want to say the name again...
annk said:
haha, that's an awesome site!
I hope my page isn't as bad as all of these (in my sig). Sometimes it's harder to tell when you created the monstrocity yourself.
bnemesis said:I thought that I would throw a couple into the ring:
My old employer: Connecting Point Computers
Their god-awful internet service: IVNet
make sure to check out the local businesses page for a good laugh. It is mostly a collection of sites
put together by Connectin.... blah. I dont even want to say the name again...
wow those are bad... and too think someone probably got paid to design those... now that is really scary.
http://www.wcs.edu/mch/itacademy.htm
that is my high school's website. **** that makes ya go bluehshughehg....
that is my high school's website. **** that makes ya go bluehshughehg....
musicpyrite said:
Agreed, you can't even get to their hardware section from the front page. Its impossible to navigate.
Sorry I showed up late to the party...
These sites are hideous...
http://pugetsoundstv.com/
http://www.cni-media.com/index.html
On top of that check out the CNI media page for more sites that they have designed. OMFG I can't believe this person actually gets any business.
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These sites are hideous...
http://pugetsoundstv.com/
http://www.cni-media.com/index.html
On top of that check out the CNI media page for more sites that they have designed. OMFG I can't believe this person actually gets any business.
[/rant]
mac-sucks.com
That site mac-sucks, i actually have chatted with him on yahoo before. He actually loves macs and owns a dual 1.8 ghz g5. (of course that was months ago, cant reemeber his username....)
That site mac-sucks, i actually have chatted with him on yahoo before. He actually loves macs and owns a dual 1.8 ghz g5. (of course that was months ago, cant reemeber his username....)
my two cents........
ok, my major gripe with websites is text-size.
i like to blow the text up so it's nice and big and easy to read, i hate sites that that either don't allow this, muck up the leading in the text or give me a horizontal scroll bar.
aside from that, www.microsoft.com gets my gong, has anyone, ever, found an accurate, concise and succinct answer to anything in their (lack of)-knowledgebank thing? i was having major dramas and dilemmas with outlook express (sending on port 0), numerous attempts to find something, anything in the knowledge-base was (for me anyway) downright impossible, i have better things to do than sift through hundreds of pages of garbage in the faint hope that i might find something of use. eventually i just threw in the towel and installed mozilla.
funny (and extremley gratifying) the lack of hassles i have had since.......
ok, my major gripe with websites is text-size.
i like to blow the text up so it's nice and big and easy to read, i hate sites that that either don't allow this, muck up the leading in the text or give me a horizontal scroll bar.
aside from that, www.microsoft.com gets my gong, has anyone, ever, found an accurate, concise and succinct answer to anything in their (lack of)-knowledgebank thing? i was having major dramas and dilemmas with outlook express (sending on port 0), numerous attempts to find something, anything in the knowledge-base was (for me anyway) downright impossible, i have better things to do than sift through hundreds of pages of garbage in the faint hope that i might find something of use. eventually i just threw in the towel and installed mozilla.
funny (and extremley gratifying) the lack of hassles i have had since.......
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perhaps not the worst ...
... but it was bad enough that I felt compelled to do a search for this thread. Here's the link.
Even more disturbing that the design is the contrast between the music, art and content. In fact, the content alone is ... just vist it.
... but it was bad enough that I felt compelled to do a search for this thread. Here's the link.
Even more disturbing that the design is the contrast between the music, art and content. In fact, the content alone is ... just vist it.