I look at 4K like I did with 3D. Everyone was talking about, there was limited content. Now I am not saying 4K will not be used in the future as 1080p is now, but it is still aways off in my book. I have seen it now for two straight years at CES and there is still very little content. Yes netflix had/has a series or two in 4K. Blu-Ray players are starting to come out with the ability to up convert 1080p to 4K. But true 4K content is still really small.
For me I will be waiting for 4K to gain penetration before I invest it. Lack of 4K for me is not an issue. Will it be here? I don't know. Will it take off? I don't know. Heck even OTA tv is only doing 720p 1080i. Unless you have a HD channel that you are paying for, that is promoting 1080p content, there is still little to no 1080p OTA.
Heck Sony was demoing 8K for the last two years also.
While lack of 4k support is one of the reasons I most likely won't get an AppleTV 4
I just have to laugh at the people that think this is of any concern or interest right now. There is no 4K content. Do you have a 4K TV? I'm sorry you spent all that money long before 4K is even a thing...but that doesn't mean the AppleTV is any worse for acknowledging reality and holding off 4K for another year or two.
I bet you were one of those who also said 720p is fine, right? It's ok if y
In case you haven't been in an electronics store at all this year, 4K TVs aren't expensive anymore. If you're in the market for a TV, you're going to walk to walk out with a 4K TV unless you're intentionally going for something really cheap and don't care about the extra non-4k related picture quality features (i.e. the best features go into the 4k sets, not the 1080p sets). and yes, there is 4k content.
4K will have faster penetration as there is no format war and much of the material was digitally remastered to the best level of detail it will ever see. It's simply a matter of burning new versions to a more capable format that is able to unlock the detail and color palet in the remaster that was limited by 1080p.
8K is a gimmick. It's for theaters. There is zero benefit to it in the home.
Com'on poll creators: think about your options. Nobody "needs" anything.
Option #1:TV4 "as is"
Option #2:TV4 "as is" with 4K playback
As is, anyone can click any option in this poll and it's valid: I don't need it but I may want it later and/or I do want it now if right now I want to easily show some 4K I shot on the new iPhone on a 4K TV.
If you want to imply the 4K version would require a higher price- which is not necessarily true- then add pricing to the 2 options. However, note what 4K streaming boxes cost from competitors before we pretend that it would require a higher price in this streaming box.
In my opinion, given the pace at which Apple updates the little box and given that just about everything else in the Apple lineup is already embracing 4K- especially the golden child product (iPhone) being able to shoot 4K- Apple should have made this final link of the Record 4K (iPhone) -> Edit 4K (iMovie or FCPX) -> Render 4K (Quicktime m4v) Store 4K (iTunes) -> Play 4K (Apple TV) -> Display 4K (a 4K TV Set) chain 4K-capable. If Apple waits about the same amount of time as has been "normal" per historical updates, they'll once again be about LAST to this particular party.
Personally, I don't care about "the chart" or "until everything in the iTunes store is available in 4K" or "until the whole Internet is upgraded" or file sizes or "I can't see the difference (so you can't either)" or "99% of people won't be able to..." etc... all of which was slung around when Apple clung to 720p while some of us coveted a 1080pTV too. And before we repeat the "1080p is good enough" and "1080p is all anyone needs" wars, let me remind everyone that a 4K-capable
TV doesn't force anyone to buy a new 4K set or download any 4K files: the 1080p or 720p or SD that works for you now would play to their max on hardware capable of a little more. It just doesn't work the other way for those of us that do desire 4K.
(My) bottom line: if one can shoot 4K, edit 4K, render 4K, store 4K- all on Apple hardware & software- and they happen to have a 4K TV now, it would be nice if they could easily display that 4K they shoot on that new iPhone on their 4K set without having to buy one of the competitor's little boxes to do so. Downscaling it to 1080p then letting the TV upscale it back to 4K is missing the point.
If nothing else, how about a Jack/Joker quote that seems relevant:
See if you can guess the key line (or maybe even two lines) applicable to this question. Then, cue the 2 models from the same movie: "Love that Joker!"
I don't disagree with anything you have to say however it begs the question...Are you new to Apple products? If not then are you seriously surprised by the lack of 4k support with the new ATV?
Honestly I would have fallen out of my chair if they said there was 4k support coming to the ATV during the keynotes.
I'll get a 4K TV when the local stations broadcast in 4K.
interesting. I sort of gave up on broadcast TV some years back--couldn't deal with the dropouts. Most of what I really want to see is streamed, anyway
Everyone complaining about 4K. Who here has a compatible 4K TV? Ok great...if you do where's the content?
Everyone complaining about 4K. Who here has a compatible 4K TV? Ok great...if you do where's the content?
Well again, don't take that as meaning it's coming to everyone over-the-air soon. I just found it interesting that there is some actual testing underway. To go from SD to HD, it required a GOV mandate way back in 1986. And I don't know about you but I don't think it felt like we were getting there until about 2002 or so... and even now, it feels like we're still waiting on some channels.
No GOV mandate for 4K (or even 1080p), h.265 or anything along those lines. Thus, I suspect streaming and discs will be the way for 4K for many years and I'm skeptical if over-the-air would go 4K even in the next decade.