Would buying a Core 2 Duo MBP really be that outdated?

Kyle-S

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I was onboard with everyone else with waiting for the "next big thing" but would the difference between a new chipset really outdate a brand new MBP? I mean will the Core 2 really be stupid purchase? I do have no reason to buy now other than to have a new laptop...

My uses are really only: Sim 3, Safari, Photoshop, and Word...
But I do want this next laptop to last me a long time...
 

thejadedmonkey

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Yes. The video card in the MBP is a joke, and the new i5 and i7 CPU's blow the C2D out of the water, it's something like a 15-20% increase I think.

a refreshed macbook pro will run the sims 3 better. So wait :p
 

shareef777

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I was onboard with everyone else with waiting for the "next big thing" but would the difference between a new chipset really outdate a brand new MBP? I mean will the Core 2 really be stupid purchase? I do have no reason to buy now other than to have a new laptop...

My uses are really only: Sim 3, Safari, Photoshop, and Word...
But I do want this next laptop to last me a long time...
I don't think the new chips are going to significantly change the way you use your computer. Personally, I believe the update is going to be more significant then just a spec bump. Only reason I'm holding out. If I knew it was just a processor and video card upgrade, then I'd have one already and be off of this god forsaken ThinkPad.
 

scottlinux

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Even the lowest mobile i3 processor blows past any Core 2 Duo processor by current benchmarks. (pcper, etc.)

The run cooler, more efficient, and have major architecture improvements (north bridge components on the CPU now; no more front side bus, etc).

Dell and Lenovo (edge models) already have i3 and i5 laptops out for $500-700 bucks. I don't know why it's taking apple so long.

It's worth waiting. Probably the most significant change from intel since the Core Duo/ Core 2 Duo line came about.
 

Kyle-S

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I'd like to know the story behind this.
I'm not really sure, when I play Sims 3, every so often, 5 minutes was an exaggeration, more like 20 minutes; anyways the game goes bizarre so I would close out of it and some error message pops up saying that my "graphics... stopped responding and has recovered successfully," but the game still is messed up until I quit out of it and re-open it... This computer should be able to handle this game with no problems or I would assume anyways...
 

Hellishness

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I don't think the new chips are going to significantly change the way you use your computer. Personally, I believe the update is going to be more significant then just a spec bump. Only reason I'm holding out. If I knew it was just a processor and video card upgrade, then I'd have one already and be off of this god forsaken ThinkPad.
i agree and im in the same boat.
 

Eidorian

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Mar 23, 2005
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I'm not really sure, when I play Sims 3, every so often, 5 minutes was an exaggeration, more like 20 minutes; anyways the game goes bizarre so I would close out of it and some error message pops up saying that my "graphics... stopped responding and has recovered successfully," but the game still is messed up until I quit out of it and re-open it... This computer should be able to handle this game with no problems or I would assume anyways...
Have you updated your video drivers?

I'm seeing nVidia and Vista in my imagination.
 

Eidorian

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Mar 23, 2005
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No, but shouldn't the computer prompt me to do so?
Yes Vista, and nVidia no, it has an Intel GMA 3100.
Get newer drivers from Intel.

At least you have hardware shaders on the GMA X3100 but it's a joke putting it in for the minimum requirements of Sims 3.
 

Eidorian

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I feel really stupid now, does it matter that these are for laptop something or others and I'm on a desktop?
That makes much more sense then. If you're on the GMA 3100, you don't have hardware shaders. It's all emulated via software on the CPU.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Intel®+G33+Express+Chipset

You're going to have similar game compatibility issues like earlier generations of Intel GMA.
 

unagimiyagi

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Jun 9, 2009
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If you take out the benchmarks, I doubt most people will notice a difference. You're better off getting more ram and a faster hard drive.

Firefox won't start any faster, nor will hulu, nor will outlook, nor will AIM or MSN messenger.

If you do video editing, stats, heavy database stuff, yes.

But only buy the "old" macbook pro if you're getting a great price for it.
But I don't have a good impression of the longevity of these machines. Pretty, but fragile.
 

Eidorian

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Mar 23, 2005
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you are on a desktop, however the video card is a mobile one.
The Intel 3 Series chipset was binned out for various purposes. The lower wattage versions going for mobile parts. The cheaper versions lacking hardware shaders so you're back to using software emulation like the GMA 950 and earlier models.
 

cschwartzy

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Mar 28, 2010
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From what I have gathered reading as much as I can on these forums is it is a better value for you money to wait (if you can) for the next refresh since Apple does not discount their laptops even if they are not the most "up to date" technology.
 

Frosties

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The waiting game is getting old. I also have a trip in mid April, and I would like to have a MBP to take along... Plus my Dell's video card is crap and Sims keeps crashing it every 5 mins...
First check dells updated drivers and software, before going to intel and whatnot!
 

mikem7522

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Why does this warrant a new thread? There's a billion and one of these questions that have been thoroughly discussed in the arrandale threads. :confused:
 

mikeo007

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Using straight release dates, the Core 2 Duo is outdated, regardless of what computer it's in.

The original Core 2 Duo Merom came out almost 4 years ago
The Penryn in the "current" Macbooks is well over 2 years old

So yes, it's old in terms of technology.