Would Lightning been better than USB-C?

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  1. ByteTheBooty macrumors regular

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    I know this is not going to be an unpopular opinion but I would have loved for the rMB to have lightning cable. Mainly because it's already on all my devices. I mean that way I could carry a single Lightning for my iPhone iPad and Mac. Also Lightning looks less fragile than USB-C..

    I don't think lighting does all the fancy stuff that USB-C does Apple could have tweaked it a little to make it more functional...and either way most people that are going to buy this computer are not really going to use the fancy ports..
     
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    I think it would be a mistake by apple to embrace a non-standard port like that. Just look at how well Thunderbolt is being embraced by other computer makers and that's more open to them then lightening.
     
  3. KrisLord macrumors 6502a

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    Lightning is only one end of any existing cable though, the other end being USB. So everyone would need new cables even if their current devices have lightning ports as no one has lightning to lightning cables.

    Also we'd end up with all peripherals costing lots more than they should - just look how much of a price premium thunderbolt devices have.
     
  4. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    Lightning would need a lot of changes to be able to do this. It would need to be changed significantly enough it would probably need to be called lightning 2 or something. I just don't see this happening as a computer isn't designed to be as portable as an iphone.
     
  5. cfedu macrumors 65816

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    So they will use it for 10 hours and then buy another one?
     
  6. PDFierro macrumors 68040

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    That would be ridiculous for the rMB to have a Lightning port and nothing else.
     
  7. iRun26.2 macrumors 68000

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    Lightning is purely an Apple standard. USB-C and even Thunderbolt are shared with other communities of users
     
  8. PDFierro macrumors 68040

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    Exactly. The rMB would have severe limitations if it came with just a Lightning port. Imagine the outcry there would be? The complaints about only one USB port are nothing like what there would be if Apple was stupid enough to only equip it with a Lightning port.

    We just need a USB-C to Lightning cable. It makes me worried that Apple hasn't announced one yet.
     
  9. Serban Suspended

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    Charging with lightning cable would take at least 4-5 hours to fully charge the macbook
     
  10. Blackstick macrumors 6502

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    Lightning can't carry the current required to charge a laptop-sized battery quickly enough. Electrically there's sufficient differences.
     
  11. fisha macrumors regular

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    Agreed, I remember that when lightning came in, it's benefit included the additional power capacity over mini usb, making it good for iPads.

    The usb c being a similar step up. Quite shrewd I reckon with a bit of forethought from apple if the notion that they pushed for the standard is true.
     
  12. ByteTheBooty thread starter macrumors regular

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    i guess you guys are right...people would have criticized the MB much more if they would have put lightning...

    But deep down I still wish it was lightning and that I could carry a single charger for all my device. But Im very happy with the rMB :)
     
  13. fisha macrumors regular

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    I can see the iPhones and iPads moving to usb c as well further down the line. At the end of the day, it's just a cable change between the charge block and the device to do it.
     
  14. PDFierro macrumors 68040

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    That doesn't make sense, though. Lightning doesn't have anywhere near the capability that USB does.
     
  15. ByteTheBooty thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah I know that, but if apple wold have tweaked it and if it could do everything USB-C could....But I know that would probably never happen

    Im happy with the computer...just dont enjoy crying 2 chargers... But you you are right, USB C is better in every way..
     
  16. newellj macrumors 601

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    There's no way Apple will not sell a USB-C to Lightning cord. That would allow you to charge any Lightning-equipped iOS device from the rMB charger.
     
  17. PDFierro macrumors 68040

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    But wouldn't they have put it on the website already like they did for the other adapters? I agree with you, I'm just wondering why we haven't seen it yet.
     
  18. Freyqq macrumors 68040

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    Lightning does not have native support for displayport 1.2, like USB C. Lightning is also currently limited to USB 2 on all devices that ship with it, so it is unknown if it supports USB 3. Lightning may not be rated for 40 watts, which is what the macbook needs. So many reasons - these are just a few.
     
  19. newellj, Mar 22, 2015
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    Maybe there is a problem scenario. The iPhone and iPad USB wall adapters are 5v. The wall adapter for the rMB is said to be either 12v or 20v. Unless Apple offers a USB C smart cord that has voltage reduction, you'd have problems if you plugged a simple USB C-Lightning cable into the rMB wall adapter.

    I only do wired backups and syncs of my iPads and iPhones. If it isn't possible to connect an iPhone or iPad to the rMB, that'll be a big deal for me. :(
     
  20. Idefix macrumors 6502

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    Don't base your purchase decision on future Apple dongles.

    Here's the brilliant idea that came to me a couple nights ago:

    Everybody talks about Apple having no room for additional ports.

    Well, if you're gonna do away with ports in the pursuit of thin and light, do away with the headphone port. Put a USB-C port on each side. You'd have the possibility of charging from either the left or the right, with external harddrive or monitor on the opposite side.

    Audio can go bluetooth.
     
  21. PDFierro macrumors 68040

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    Ha, no. Most people still don't use Bluetooth for listening to audio on laptops/smartphones/tablets.
     
  22. Idefix macrumors 6502

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    Just let Jony design bluetooth stereo headphones, there'll be instant adoption and tremendous sales.
     
  23. Anonymous Freak macrumors 601

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    The USB Type-C-only MacBook isn't actually available yet. And a cable isn't exactly something worthy of its own "announcement". I'm sure one will be released by the time the MacBook is actually available.
     
  24. Mr. Buzzcut macrumors 65816

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    The fact there is already a USB adapter says you'll be fine.
     
  25. newellj macrumors 601

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    Yes, with the dongle (and by the way, the $19 dongle, not the $79 dongle), that's right. I was thinking about a "native" solution.

    The other thing that occurred to me is that if I buy one of these I will almost certainly keep my rMBP, which is my mobile media management solution. It's probably unlikely that I'd be trying to sync and manage apps and media on iOS devices with an rMB that I'm using as a secondary laptop - although I reserve the right to change my mind. ;)
     

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