would love to see a 10" MacBook Air

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by sir42, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. sir42 macrumors 6502

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    I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, nevertheless...

    Apple has said that they don't want to produce a netbook because they don't see value in a cheap computer.

    But for me, the value of a netbook has little to do with price alone. I routinely feel like I could use a device that's smaller and more portable than my MacBook Pro and yet more functional than my iPhone.

    Apple claims that people wanting to surf the internet and write emails on the go should invest in an iphone or itouch. However, while they are good for some brief emails ("sounds good, see you at 5"), they aren't always great for emails which require more thought. When I was commuting from NYC to DC on Amtrak the other day, it was especially cumbersome to try to peck out thoughtful emails while the train was bouncing up and down.

    The truth is, a real keyboard is very different from an iphone keyboard. I average about 70 words a minute on my laptop keyboard, but under 20 on my iPhone. That's a huge drop in efficiency. While Steve may claim that the iPhone is a good portable email device, I usually find myself waiting to get back to a keyboard to answer emails that require more than a sentence.

    Additionally, sometimes I want access to information in another window while typing an email (a restaurant address in a Safari window, or a value in a spreadsheet), and it's useful to have more than one application open at a time when composing email.

    Yesterday I took my D80 outside to photograph a parade. I chose my D80 over the iPhone because I wanted great looking pictures. However, unlike the iPhone, I couldn't just upload the photos by pressing a button on my D80. I had to return home, load the photos into iPhoto, edit them and then upload them to facebook. If I had a little 3G connected laptop, I could have loaded my D80 pictures into iPhoto, done some light editing, and uploaded them to facebook from a nearby Starbucks.

    I'm also a big fan of iWork (both Pages and Numbers), but it's only supported on Apple hardware. I could buy a cheap little HP or dell netbook, but I wouldn't be able to work on my spreadsheets or documents on the go. I'd love to take an Apple branded 2lb machine with me to a coffee shop and work on blog posts, or to meetings and work on spreadsheets with clients.

    And for this convenience, I would likely pay a price. If this machine ran the full OS X and iLife and iWork, I would be able to work on the go without lugging around a full 10lbs of gear. I might even be willing to pay $1,000 for such a machine if it really knocked these features out of the park.

    I think there is a need for a machine that is more portable than a laptop, and yet more functional than a touch screen smartphone. A 10" MacBook Air could fill a real void in the OS X market. I suppose an Apple tablet would help, but I'm not convinced that this product would work without a real keyboard. Maybe it's just me, but here's hoping...
     
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  3. LAS.mac macrumors 6502

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    I don't think a 10" laptop will have a very usable kb. My "lower limit of usability" is at 12".

    So, if :apple: can make a 12" unit with at least same specifications of the current MBA, for, say, 1500 USD max, I'm sold.
     
  4. McGilli macrumors 6502

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    I want one too.

    MBA is great - but I have a 10" Fujitsu laptop - and the size is perfect for me. And if it was slimmed down and thin like the Air it would be ideal for me. But to each his own.
     
  5. reallynotnick macrumors 6502a

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    12in vs 13in is pointless, you have to remember that the 12in powerbook had a 4:3 screen and a full sized keyboard. By using a widescreen you can have a screen smaller then 12in and still have a full sized KB. The problem becomes if you have enough space for a good sized trackpad. Personally I think a 11in screen would be the best bet.
     
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  7. Scarlet Fever macrumors 68040

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    I wouldn't like that, because that'd have no physical keyboard. It'd be worse than a miniature one. And unless it ran Mac OS X, I might as well get a normal iPod Touch.
     
  8. byke macrumors 6502a

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    Realistically though, most netbook sized computers are used for small tasks (surfing, email, watching movies .... sitting on a train etc).

    So I cant see the justified need for a mega powerfull 10" netbook.

    I still think a 10" ipod touch style netbook cross over would reach the largest market and have the most effect on its users.


    Cheap, small , connectivity
     
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  10. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    The MBA at 13" is as small as can be and still be capable to be MY primary Mac. I don't want a smaller MBA. We are going to get a 10" iTablet within the next year. That is a device, if priced right, that has mass appeal - just like the iPhone. A built in keyboard makes it much more portable. And a smaller OS X makes a better fit just like the iPhone.

    What I want is a more powerful MBA. 2.13 GHz SL9600, 4 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, better battery tech, glass trackpad, and a high end display without the dreaded gray lines of DEATH. I want an MBA more capable than the rev B, and anything smaller or less would defeat the purpose. The whole point of the MBA is to be a fully capable MB yet super portable and lightweight. Powerful enough for the business "Pro."

    I could see a 15" MBA, but a 10" MBA is certain doom! You really want a cramped keyboard and less power... You really want a smaller and yet lower resolution display... You really aren't impressed with the all around performance and capabilities of the rev B - how about with SSD - or attached to a 24" LED ACD... because all of that really impresses me.

    The 13" MBA is extremely lightweight and portable while still offering a high level of power and more than anything, FUN. The case could definitely be made for a 15" MBA, and the rumors had me believing. I cannot believe we haven't seen a "fuzzy" photo of a 15" MBA named simply "MacBook."

    I suppose no fuzzy photos means no 10" MBA nor a 15" MBA. It's a relief for me, as my focus and passion is a 13" MBA that retains the same form factor but provides more power and capabilities.

    But I am perfectly fine with a Mac netbook. Just don't ruin the MBA's whole point and future to do it. Call it a MacBook Lite. Based on the Apple Executives statements, I don't see it happening though - but maybe an iTablet... sorry to not share your passion for killing the MacBook Air.
     
  11. kar1181 macrumors newbie

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    Definitely, would buy one of those in five seconds flat, no matter what it cost.
     
  12. sir42 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I concede, if Apple releases THAT MacBook Air, I would probably buy it over a 10" MBA. However, the current MBA is the slowest MacBook offering, and I can't justify spending $1,800+ for a desktop replacement laptop with the current performance.

    I feel like Apple needs to decide with the Air is. Either it's underpowered and more affordable, or it has better performance and a price tag to match. Right now I feel like the Air is in a limbo that makes it a hard purchase.
     
  13. LAS.mac macrumors 6502

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    I want one of those too...:p
     
  14. antonioanmar macrumors member

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    If sometimes Apple would produce a 10" machine i pray because it would be a tablet.

    Macbook air is perfect for me, because 13" screen is the perfect size for a confortable work. Less screen would cause a not confortable long time working (at least for me). And the same situation about keyboard. Actually i use my Macbook unibody mostly like desktop computer in my home, but all the rest of the day i work with my rev.B Air, which is my main computer now. And i can not (and mostly i don't like) use so many hours a 10" screen and keybord.

    So, 10" must be something very special, for a concrete use. And this is my idea for a tablet.
     
  15. NewGenAdam macrumors 6502

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    I'd like Apple to do one of two things with their basic laptop lineup:
    1) increase the screens by about an inch to eat that redundant bezel
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    2) decrease the form factor to fit snugly around the screens as they are.

    All the bezel space is annoying.
     
  16. twoodcc macrumors P6

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    i would like to see a smaller Air. even though the current one is thin, it still takes up space
     
  17. byke macrumors 6502a

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    My son has a 9"dell mini hackingtosh, and while it feels allot better to hold and travel with (IE putting it into a bag) the keyboard sucks and is basically unusable at that size. While the screen is "ok", I still appreciate to have a 13" MBA. I must say I do prefer the power adaptor size that comes on the dell though.
     
  18. j26 macrumors 65832

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    A MSI Wind hackintosh would fill that gap cheaply enough. At the moment, since the demise of my MacBook (at my own hands :(), it's performed acceptably well as my main machine. I will be building a powerful machine for heavy lifting, but for the moment, the MSI works fine for WP, Internet, light photo work, etc.

    The keyboard is 92% of full size, and I can type well enough without mistakes. It doesn't feel cramped. Everything works except the headphone jack (which can be sorted with a wee hack)
     
  19. Scottsdale macrumors 601

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    The problem currently is the problem all Mac buyers face. The MBA rev B is over seven months old. It was introduced last October. As with any Mac, one has to buy it right after it's updated... It is just old tech right now.

    The 2.13 GHz SL9600 Intel Core 2 Duo LV CPU has been ready for over a month. One has to believe that will be the natural evolution of the MBA.

    We simply do not know what Apple is thinking or where the MBA is headed, but I don't think the current seven month stretch means that the MBA is going to be changed other than spec bump updates. We have other rumors and a lot of speculation, but seven months is pretty normal for APPLE!

    Unfortunately, at this point in the MBA rev B's product cycle, it's extremely overpriced. Looking at the component prices, they cannot be half what they were when the MBA rev B was released. This is the common problem with buying a Mac right before the new one is released. Apple does NOT ever lower the price even the day before the new Mac is updated. So, someone that buys a Mac one day before it is updated usually pays the same exact price and gets old technology that the person who buys the new version the very next day.

    It's very great for Apple shareholders, but it's a worthless system for Apple buyers. Unfortunately, it's not going to change.

    A rev C MBA could be a week away or it could be put on hold like the Mac mini was which stayed exactly the same for over two years. We will not know until time progresses. In the meantime, don't buy a rev B as the costs is far more than the worth in terms of component price makeup.

    Still against a rev C that goes backwards or becomes less primary Mac capable. I don't see your argument if you are just willing to concede with a powered up 13" MBA.

    I thought you wanted far less usable, far less capable, far less Mac like MBA in a 10" variety??? That definitely isn't what I am talking about.
     

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