Would you buy a current Mac Pro or go for a Macbook Pro?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by darkus, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. darkus macrumors regular

    Nov 5, 2007
    So I've always wanted a MacPro for the sheer powah. But like many of you, i've been waiting in limbo for the new one. Doesn't seem like its coming any time soon but I do need something new within the next month.

    What do you guys think? Should I just go for the Macbook pro or does the Mac Pro still outperform the 2.7 i7 macbook pro?
  2. pat500000 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2015
  3. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
    If you need a computer to hold you over, buy a used Mac Mini on eBay & then make up your mind when the next Mac Pro comes out. Then sell the mini if you want. Or a used Mac Pro. Both hold their value well.
  4. Bubba Satori Suspended

    Bubba Satori

    Feb 15, 2008
  5. darkus thread starter macrumors regular

    Nov 5, 2007
    Powah for powahs sake to be honest.

    I just want to get the most powerful machine between the two to future proof myself. I usually buy the best possible unit at the time and make it last 6-8 years
  6. fastlanephil macrumors 65816


    Nov 17, 2007
    Maybe the 2015 4.0 GHz 5K iMac would be a better choice depending on wether your usage utilizes more than 4 cores or not.
  7. boast macrumors 65816


    Nov 12, 2007
    Phoenix, USA
    The iMacs have been the highest performing machine these days, but it hasn't been updated in a while (still the most powerful, though)
  8. chrfr macrumors 604

    Jul 11, 2009
    There's nothing "future proof" about the current Mac Pro.
  9. mattspace macrumors 65816


    Jun 5, 2013
    There's nothing "future proof" about any current Mac. The pattern of Apple's technology pathways is to sell you a system based upon the promise of some fundamental new technology, which won't be mature until a couple of generations after the machine you bought is obsolete. And with non-replacable graphics (unless you hold out for the fantasy of eGPU being a thing on macOS) that obsolescence has only accelerated.

    Thunderbolt 3 was the first revision where GPUs were officially blessed as a part of the spec from Intel, and even then, it's starved for PCI lanes, compared to having a card in a slot all of its own. Not really surprising for an expansion bus created by a company whose driving ambition while developing it, prior to catching the low-power religion, was to kill off the dedicated GPU as a concept.
  10. h9826790 macrumors G5


    Apr 3, 2014
    Hong Kong
    "You want the power for what" is actually important.

    cMP has the best GPU / SSD (sequential, RAID 0 required) with proper upgrade (e.g. TitanX / 4x SM951). Best cooling system, and internal storage/ expension options.

    nMP has best CPU power (12 cores option, multi thread), and can easily drive six displays natively.

    MBP has fastest SSD (4K random), USB-C (thunderbolt 3), touch bar. And it's portable.

    iMac has fastest CPU (single thread), best 5k monitor support (it's a bit hard to get stable / reliable 5k display on Mac Pro)

    None of them is sure winner for everything. If you want best Performing "Mac" in all area, Hackintosh is the way to go.
  11. seveej macrumors 6502a


    Dec 14, 2009
    Helsinki, Finland
    Go to the closest store.
    Turn your back to the store.
    Close you'r eyes.
    Imagine 1000 people screaming "run darkus run!"

    Honestly, if you want "sheer powah",  is not the way to go.

    Personally, I like both the 5K iMac (i don't even have the top-spec model) and the cMP (ditto).

  12. Kcetech1 macrumors regular

    Nov 24, 2016
    Alberta Canada
    Possibly the best answer I have seen in ages.
  13. iCarabma macrumors 6502

    Feb 22, 2012
    Most of the time the answer to this question is a Buch of questions:

    - What do you want to use it for?

    - Does it need to be portable?

    - what software do you use?

    - etc

    But the sad truth is there is no reason to buy a Mac Pro right now. It's a terrible idea. That doesn't mean it will always be so. That's not Apple hate. It's a bad machine and the fact that they still will sell you a new one is bad for everyone involved.
  14. kennyisalive macrumors regular

    Feb 29, 2016
  15. strukt macrumors regular


    Aug 8, 2012
  16. filmak, Mar 28, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2017

    filmak macrumors 65816

    Jun 21, 2012
    between earth and heaven
  17. jjhny macrumors regular


    Sep 16, 2005
    I have a MacBook 'Pro' - barely ever use it, except on business trips. Much too limited. Using a 2013 MP and a bunch of cMP's (all 12 core). If all Apple makes are crippled portable boxes I will be forced into the PC world, which nauseates me. It also means no more Apple products, no way I'll be trapped in a company that is slowly killing its ecosystem, as opposed to expanding it. I easily switched from my Motorola phone to my Nokia phone to my iPhone. It's cheap to dump a 'phone' ecosystem.

    Tim Cook is making the whole company dependent on throw-away devices that purposely are made to be replaced every year (phone) or every few years (iPad, laptop). The serious computers gave them one hugely important thing - true loyalty - because when you commit to an operating system, you really have long term loyalty.

    But Tim doesn't really get it as he flits around the globe trying to be popular with celebrities and China's slave overlords. He is a study in stupidity. He is surviving on inertia alone - and he just doesn't understand it. If he doesn't produce a decent machine to do actual work he will lose that deep loyalty which acts as an anchor that the throwaway products are built around.
  18. joebclash macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2016
    They did that with the mac mini 2014. Everything soldered on motherboard. Basically you throw it out if you didn't get enough ram while the mac min 2012 is very upgrade-able. Apple wants everything including the mac line to be disposable after 1 or 2 years. I find this disgusting. We are generating too much ewaste. We need to put a stop to this.
  19. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a


    Aug 7, 2011
    Honestly, if I were starting fresh without any peripherals and wanted the best bang for the buck then I would get a cMP 5,1. Like the one I bought for my wife recently. Lots of "power" and the ability to upgrade the GPU and such without much fuss.

    Since I have a TB display and TB RAID for my own setup that limits me on what I can do, so I'm waiting to see what happens with the Mac Pro. My current nMP is fine for what I do, my only complaint is with the GPUs and only having TB2 means adding an external GPU isn't going to give the best performance, plus I'd need a new display.

    A MacBook Pro for "power" is great on paper, in use it's not that great once the fans kick on high so it sounds like a jet engine and you end up with thermal throttling.

    I have one of everything except for an iMac in this house; Mac Mini, MacBook Pro, cMP, nMP. I use my nMP the most, wife uses the cMP, and the MacBook Pro doesn't get much use unless I decide to work outside of my office.
  20. pat500000 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2015

    Even He-man would use his mac pro for powah. You might try 5,1.
  21. filmak macrumors 65816

    Jun 21, 2012
    between earth and heaven
    If you have to stay with Macs any MP (5,1 or even 6,1 with its limitations) is a better choice than a MacBook, for demanding usage.

    If you want it just to have the most powerful Mac, simply wait or "stay tuned"...
  22. Synchro3, Mar 28, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2017

    Synchro3 macrumors 68000


    Jan 12, 2014
  23. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a


    Aug 7, 2011
    Nice, I was wondering about the compatibility with the Z270 boards since I didn't see much on them. Thinking I might build myself a Hackintosh with one of the Z270 boards and a GTX 1070 or 1080 once there's support/drivers for them. Whatever I build I want to be able to use a vanilla install of macOS to get it working, I've done the kext and other hacks before and I don't have the patience to deal with that anymore. Just make it work. :)
  24. EnderBeta macrumors 6502a


    Aug 5, 2016
    This really depends on your needs.

    I personally for work faced this question. It was a very tough choice but I ended up going with the 6 Core 3.5GHz Xeon, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and D700 Mac Pro. The reason I decided on it was because my work no longer requires me to be nearly as mobile since I moved to a software developers position rather then a boots on the ground programmer. I elected for the Mac Pro because it is quite and doesn't kick up a lot of heat while I work. I have three 4K monitors that I use and the Mac Pro does well with the screen Realestate.

    That said I could also argue that if I was working in the field even part of the time I would prefer the MacBook Pro for the mobility. I also must admit I'm curious about the touch bar.

    I have a Late 2015 iMac as well that I bought with my own money that I was using for work when I wasn't in the field and for my own things on my time. It's also a fantastic machine. I know it can handle another 4K screen easily. I haven't tried it with a second 4K screen but I thin it would be ok outside of games. The only issue with it is that it has to contend with heat more then the Mac Pro and it can be noisy. When I say noisy it's a relative noise that sounds like wind that doesn't stop. It's way quieter then my gaming machine when it is going full tilt in a game at 4K max settings so I don't want to make it sound like the iMac is egregiously loud. It's just louder then the Mac Pro which I have yet to hear at all. It's just that quite.

    I guess like the other people helping you have said you will need to consider your personal requirements and then find the Mac that works best within those requirements.

    h9826790 really summed up the decision very well.

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