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The more cynical view would be
"Nvidia deliberately screwed up on OpenCL to lock people in to CUDA".
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Would you buy a rMBP without a dedicated GPU?
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The more cynical view would be
"Nvidia deliberately screwed up on OpenCL to lock people in to CUDA".
If they don't include dGPU than i go for the 13" rMBP with 5100...form factor better/lighter and not so much difference between HD5100 and HD5200 for the extra room/money etc
So im sure they will not get rid of dGPU on 15"
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i think was better and perfect for apple to include HD5200 in 13" rMBP and for mac mini with i7 model and keep the HD4600+dGPU for the 15"
So im sure they will not get rid of dGPU on 15"
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i think was better and perfect for apple to include HD5200 in 13" rMBP and for mac mini with i7 model and keep the HD4600+dGPU for the 15"
Has there been any talk on how internals would be redesigned without a dGPU? Presumably there would be no real reason for two fans, nor for the metal connector that you see between both heatsinks in the teardown guide. Seems excessive, and the added space could be used for something else.
there is always a reason for two fans
the heat Is still a MAJOR issue for almost all line of apple MacBooks
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I would
My plan is to sell my current 15" rMBP to get the Haswell version, even if it doesn't have a discrete GPU. In my experience, the gpu switching isn't very reliable and will often switch to dedicated for tasks that it doesn't need to, eating up battery life. Also, when I bought the current model my plan was to use it as a gaming machine as well, but I found that it wasn't able to run the latest games as smoothly as I wanted even on modest graphics settings, so I ended up building a dedicated gaming rig. With that in mind, I really only want discrete graphics if they truly are powerful enough for gaming, otherwise I'd rather take the latest integrated and have improved battery life.
However, I completely understand that not all graphics work is gaming related so I'd understand if some people would be miffed to not have dGPU. I'd say it's a tossup and that it would be good for some and bad for others, you can never please everyone.
My plan is to sell my current 15" rMBP to get the Haswell version, even if it doesn't have a discrete GPU. In my experience, the gpu switching isn't very reliable and will often switch to dedicated for tasks that it doesn't need to, eating up battery life. Also, when I bought the current model my plan was to use it as a gaming machine as well, but I found that it wasn't able to run the latest games as smoothly as I wanted even on modest graphics settings, so I ended up building a dedicated gaming rig. With that in mind, I really only want discrete graphics if they truly are powerful enough for gaming, otherwise I'd rather take the latest integrated and have improved battery life.
However, I completely understand that not all graphics work is gaming related so I'd understand if some people would be miffed to not have dGPU. I'd say it's a tossup and that it would be good for some and bad for others, you can never please everyone.
The current 13" retina has the same heat pipe and dual fan design as the 15" even without the dGPU, so I see no reason to change it:
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Putting Iris Pro 5200 in the 13" would have required using a 47W part instead of the current 35W part, which would have made the 13" a lot hotter and probably reduced battery life.
Also the cost of the Iris Pro 5200 chips is very high and Apple wants the 13" to be cheaper than the 15"
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Mavericks fixed graphics switching. That's how it improved battery life so much over Lion and Mountain Lion.
It's up to you whether you want to take a significant hit to your financials in order to get a new machine (and lose out on graphics performance), but personally, I don't think it makes sense... as the gain in processing performance is minimal (unless you encode videos a lot), but the loss in graphics performance is noticeable, and all the while the gain in battery life wouldn't be significant because the screen still sucks far too much power.
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One reason if they ditch the dGPU I will get a Ivy from the refurb store when Haswell versions are out they should be even cheaper then
True.
If you ask me... a 15" rMBP for $1500 now is a good price. When Haswell hits, if you can get one for $1400, that's a bargain.
The graphic card is perfect for me...
Hello everyone,
I'm new here but I think my experience could help...That is a good question... just had the same discusion with a friend. I bought the rMBP with Gforce for the only reason i'm using CATIA to CAD for School so my MBP 13'' was having a hard time with complex assembly...
Thanks😀
Hello everyone,
I'm new here but I think my experience could help...That is a good question... just had the same discusion with a friend. I bought the rMBP with Gforce for the only reason i'm using CATIA to CAD for School so my MBP 13'' was having a hard time with complex assembly...
Thanks😀
Hell Yes!
I have an early-2013 15" rMBP 2.7GHz with the 650M and 16GB of DRAM. When the time comes to replace it, a discrete GPU will not be a consideration in my buying decision.
I have an early-2013 15" rMBP 2.7GHz with the 650M and 16GB of DRAM. When the time comes to replace it, a discrete GPU will not be a consideration in my buying decision.