Would you buy this MacBook Pro with these specs?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by NickPhamUK, Oct 31, 2016.

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Which one would you pick?

  1. MacBook Pro 15" (Imaginary)

    15 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. MacBook Pro 15" (2016)

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  1. NickPhamUK macrumors 6502

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    MacBook Pro 15" (Imaginary)
    - No OLED Touch Bar
    - Same form factor as 2015
    - Skylake Quad Core i7 with variants as upgrades
    - A choice between Intel Iris Pro 580 or Intel Iris 550 + a dedicated card
    - Dedicated cards: NVIDIA GTX 1050 (base), 1060 or 1070
    - 99 Wh battery or more, if possible
    - Better cooling system
    - RAM 16 GB, an option to upgrade to 32GB
    - 2 USB-A ports, 2 USB-C ports
    - 3.5 mm jack
    - SD Card Slot
    - HDMI
    - MagSafe
    - 512/1TB/2TB SSD
    - Starting price: $1999 (because no Touch Bar)
    - A choice of colors: Space Gray, Matte Black, Silver, Gold, Rose Gold

    There, I said it. Essentially, Apple doesn't need to do any "innovating". Just give us better internal specs.

    Or would you still buy the MacBook Pro 15" (2016)?
     
  2. Ries macrumors 68000

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    Add a 4K screen + touch ID power button. I'd buy it. Maybe I would wait for kaby lake, but i'd take that over the new one any day.
     
  3. jetho macrumors member

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    No, because
    I only order the 15" because of the smaller form factor. If it would have stayed the same, I would have picked the 13".

    I don't like these compromise solutions. 2x USB-A & 2x USB-C might be the best option now, but in a couple of month or year(s) you might wonder what to to with the old USB-A ports (besides basic periphery) and be annoyed why you only have 2x USB-C.

    MagSafe is a great invention, but I never ran into a situation where it saved me. So I would sacrifice it over USB-C.
     
  4. sinoka56, Oct 31, 2016
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    add touch id

    maybe 256 base storage

    stay with AMD

    same scissor keyboard

    maintain the glowing apple logo

    maintain the extension cord

    remove the "MacBook Pro"
     
  5. Rob_2811 Suspended

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    I would buy the one you are proposing. I wouldn't touch the 2016 15 inch for the price it is selling for in UK or any of the models with the silly touchbar
     
  6. samparmenter macrumors 6502

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    Same here but I had lots of times it popped out when I was using it because of torque on the connector. Over time that wouldn't do a standard cable much good. With a usb-c cable though thats just a simple replacement. My main love of the magsafe cable was that you just showed it to the rough area and it popped in. There was something nice and satisfying about it.

    Back to the OP. If you wanted me to pick I chose the imaginary one because I think overall its a better package. If I went for my dream machine it would be a mix of the two. They would make the device a little thicker than the new model, reduce the trackpad size, sack off the new slightly better speakers (because lets be honest, they will still be rubbish compared to decent external ones) and include a much larger battery. 10 hours battery life is BS if you are working on it as a developer. More like 5 if you are lucky.

    So:

    4 usb-c is fine
    larger battery to give ~16hrs battery or 8+ when actually stressing the machine
    32gb ram available because we have a bigger battery
    512gb standard storage
    slightly better GFX than they are offering
    touch bar
    P3 screen
     
  7. NickPhamUK thread starter macrumors 6502

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    It would be funny if this quarter's Mac sales in the UK drop by 50%...
     
  8. Rob_2811 Suspended

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    It would, you need your head reading buying one of those machines at the current prices. About time they started eating some of those huge margins.
     
  9. samparmenter macrumors 6502

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    Well if you release a new product that lots of people have been waiting for literally for years and you don't sell a **** load then you can be fairly sure something is going wrong. Honestly, I think the new macbook pros are brilliant. I can deal with the shortcomings and the size, weight and updates make it a fantastic machine. On the other hand they are really taking the mickey with the prices. If they knocked £300 off each of the macs I would have already ordered one.
     
  10. NickPhamUK thread starter macrumors 6502

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    They raise it €500 here in Finland. The base 15" is €2799.
     
  11. Puonti macrumors 6502a

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    I wouldn't buy the OP's product, because it's an impossible combo.
     
  12. lympero macrumors 6502a

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  13. samparmenter macrumors 6502

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    What part of it is impossible. They have reduced the overall volume by ~20% and maintained the same battery life as before whist adding the touch bar. The batter is about 40% smaller than the old macbook pro. If they maintained the same form factor they could easily create the machine he describes. What part of it (apart from perhaps the GFX options he might want) is impossible.
     
  14. NickPhamUK thread starter macrumors 6502

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    The Graphics choices are not impossible. 1070 might be a bit of a stretch for a thin laptop like MBP but that's it.
     
  15. idark77 macrumors 6502

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  16. Puonti macrumors 6502a

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    No one part of that list is impossible - the combo is.

    If that product is possible, show me a competitor's product with those features and that price. I won't ask for macOS, just for the sake of conversation.
     
  17. leman macrumors 604

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    Well, it might be possible to pull this combo off, and maybe even possible to pack a GTX 1060 inside it. But then you can't have a 99Wh battery. And your cooling will be severely compromised. In the end, you'd end up with a machine that tries too hard to accommodate a powerful GPU and will have cooling and battery issues. So yeah. Not to mention that I am sceptical whether Intel can deliver enough Iris-Pro enabled CPUs.

    BTW, a very similar laptop exists — thats the Dell XPS 15". So I suggest the OP to look there. Personally, I prefer the new MacBook because its just as powerful but more mobile at the same time.
     
  18. Jay42 macrumors 65816

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    Sorry, but I fail to see the need for 4k on a 13" or 15" screen. On a theater projector, yes, but on a 13" laptop screen? No way.
     
  19. samparmenter macrumors 6502

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    4k on a 13" or even 15" screen is mad. Eventually that will be standard simply because thats what panels manufacturers make but there is almost 0 usefulness to it and rather large tradeoffs. The 5K screen on my 27" iMac is utterly amazing. Thats twice the size of a 13" rMBP. In real terms you would essentially be saying you want a 2x2 set of 4k res screens if you scaled it up to 27". Completely pointless and the battery / gfx will suffer.
     

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