*AHEM* not available in all areasWhy on earth are some of you people putting no? There is no downside to LTE. If you want longer battery life.. turn it off. Off... off... oFf... OfF... ofF.... OFF. You have the option to turn it off. Wow these forums are full ofmonkeys. This entire thread is really pointless. There is no downside to have the option of using if you need it.
I used an evo 4g for a long time. Wimax was nice to have. I don't have wimax at my house, but I never wished it was absent from my phone. When I was out and needed it I had the option to use it.
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Would you like to see LTE in the next iPhone at the expense of battery life?
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Data'Baby'Data! I fully support the move to LTE even though we know it won't be coming with the iPhone 5. Besides.. On my iP4 I use SBsettings to shut off 3G and WiFi once I leave to go somewhere. I'll turn 3G back on if I need to access/stream, but besides that it all stays off so my battery is hardly being used at all. At 7am it's at 100%. At 4PM it's only at 96%.
LTE is like a nice brand new twenty-four lane highway with no speed limits. By not using it you could say you are staying on the old two lane interstate. You get better gas mileage for staying on the 45MPH interstate road, but it takes twice as long to get anywhere.
LTE is like a nice brand new twenty-four lane highway with no speed limits. By not using it you could say you are staying on the old two lane interstate. You get better gas mileage for staying on the 45MPH interstate road, but it takes twice as long to get anywhere.
So you can reach your data cap faster and pay more in overage charges? Carriers want to market 4g, not make it a usable service for their customers.
You're looking at this the wrong way. How would you, if you had one, reach your data 'limit' any faster then on 3G? A 400KB webpage on Edge is still 400KB on 3G. And a 400KB webpage on 3G is still 400KB on LTE. All that's happening is the data is moving at a much faster rate.
Why don't we just strip off 3G while we're at it? Then your battery would last all day. Seriously some of you act like LTE is the plague.
My iP4 is plenty fast. 4G is for MiFi's and laptops right now. A mobile phone isn't very mobile while it's charging.
I've had the Thunderbolt, Charge, and Bionic on Verizon. I'm back on my iPhone 4 right now. I would have kept the Bionic, but its screen was unacceptable for a $300 device, but that's a different story. Point is, I've used the best 4G devices that they have. The speed is undeniable. "Just a few seconds" adds up throughout the day.
However, I'm pretty sure that at this point, the chipsets used require two radios to support LTE on the Verizon network. I believe this is why we are seeing all 4.3" devices so far. Strike one against the iPhone 5 having LTE.
The battery life was also inexcusable with stock batteries. I see people posting on forums that they can easily make it through a day with their 4G phones. They must just let it sit there idle. I am in a 4G area where I always get 3-4 bars and even with moderate use (texting a lot, and checking emails and facebook at work, along with a game or two on the *******), none of the phones could make it through the day without a charge. The extended battery on the TBolt allowed me to make it to the end of the day with about 20% left, but it made the phone a complete brick and even bulkier than it was to begin with. Strike two against the iPhone 5 having LTE. As a side note, I do understand Apple has some magic up their sleeve by making a 1500mAh battery last as long as it does in the iP4 (compared to other android devices I've used like the Incredible and Fascinate), but when I look at the usage statistics on my 4G devices, the 4G radio was sucking a LOT of juice even when the phone was idle, and I don't think Apple can do anything about that at this point in time.
Would I love LTE on the iP5? Yes. However, I just don't find it practical for Apple's approach on their products right now. Battery life is key, and one of the main reasons I go back to the iP4. I get the slimmest smartphone on the market with by far the best battery life. Unless Apple knows something/can do something that no one else knows about, then I doubt we will see LTE in the iP5. I would not want it at the cost of battery life. However, hopefully the technology will improve over the next year and we will see it in the iP6 when battery issues are taken care of.
Also, to those saying LTE is insignificant/not worth it/doesn't make a significant difference, you really need to play with a device that has it. It really is amazing how quick it speeds up everyday tasks on the phone in ways that you wouldn't think of without actually using it. However, even with all the praise I give it, I still don't find it beneficial when it's killing every phone that has it within 10 hours of even the lightest use (and in some cases even less).
Just my two cents.
However, I'm pretty sure that at this point, the chipsets used require two radios to support LTE on the Verizon network. I believe this is why we are seeing all 4.3" devices so far. Strike one against the iPhone 5 having LTE.
The battery life was also inexcusable with stock batteries. I see people posting on forums that they can easily make it through a day with their 4G phones. They must just let it sit there idle. I am in a 4G area where I always get 3-4 bars and even with moderate use (texting a lot, and checking emails and facebook at work, along with a game or two on the *******), none of the phones could make it through the day without a charge. The extended battery on the TBolt allowed me to make it to the end of the day with about 20% left, but it made the phone a complete brick and even bulkier than it was to begin with. Strike two against the iPhone 5 having LTE. As a side note, I do understand Apple has some magic up their sleeve by making a 1500mAh battery last as long as it does in the iP4 (compared to other android devices I've used like the Incredible and Fascinate), but when I look at the usage statistics on my 4G devices, the 4G radio was sucking a LOT of juice even when the phone was idle, and I don't think Apple can do anything about that at this point in time.
Would I love LTE on the iP5? Yes. However, I just don't find it practical for Apple's approach on their products right now. Battery life is key, and one of the main reasons I go back to the iP4. I get the slimmest smartphone on the market with by far the best battery life. Unless Apple knows something/can do something that no one else knows about, then I doubt we will see LTE in the iP5. I would not want it at the cost of battery life. However, hopefully the technology will improve over the next year and we will see it in the iP6 when battery issues are taken care of.
Also, to those saying LTE is insignificant/not worth it/doesn't make a significant difference, you really need to play with a device that has it. It really is amazing how quick it speeds up everyday tasks on the phone in ways that you wouldn't think of without actually using it. However, even with all the praise I give it, I still don't find it beneficial when it's killing every phone that has it within 10 hours of even the lightest use (and in some cases even less).
Just my two cents.
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this poll is faulty because it doesn't identify the amount of battery life you are willing to sacrifice. A more appropriate poll is "How much battery life would you be willing to lose for LTE?"
Options:
None
5-15%
15-25%
25-35%
35-45%
45-55%
>55%
Or something similar to that. Because I'm fairly confident that everyone would be willing to give up 5% battery life. I would have to try pretty hard to get my iPhone 4 down to 5% in a single day. I would probably be in the 15-25% because I probably only get down to 25% bat life once a month. That means using LTE on my iPhone wouldn't alter the way I use my iPhone at all. Honestly most days I could take the 45% bat life hit, but I wouldn't want to bank on that.
Options:
None
5-15%
15-25%
25-35%
35-45%
45-55%
>55%
Or something similar to that. Because I'm fairly confident that everyone would be willing to give up 5% battery life. I would have to try pretty hard to get my iPhone 4 down to 5% in a single day. I would probably be in the 15-25% because I probably only get down to 25% bat life once a month. That means using LTE on my iPhone wouldn't alter the way I use my iPhone at all. Honestly most days I could take the 45% bat life hit, but I wouldn't want to bank on that.
True. Because I would also be willing to sacrifice a small amount of battery if I got LTE data speeds. But a ridiculous amount of battery life and I'd have to pass on it.
Whats the point of blazing fast speeds with Tiered data? sure, I can stream something faster...but if I don't have the data to do it, it becomes largely a moot point.
Of course. You'd be able to turn it off like 3G and despite it not being in my area it is coming this December. There is absolutely no reason why I wouldn't want it. LTE LTE/advanced are the future of cellular data for now. I want to be on board with that and not cry like a little bitch about battery life knowing that I can save said battery life by turning it off at any given moment. The faster the big cities get it the faster it becomes available in all our tiny parts of the States. The faster it gets implemented the faster the battery technology/performance will improve. The whole concept of LTE being hindered by tiered data is silly to me. There is 100% chance that I, personally, will use the exact same amount of data on LTE vs. 3G. Others maybe not, but thats not my problem right now.
Its not about the total amount of data I use. Its always been about how slow it comes and how slow it initiates any type of data usage. Sometimes my phone just sits there forever waiting for google to load. One day you'll look back and realize how much of a stepping stone 3G really was.
Its not about the total amount of data I use. Its always been about how slow it comes and how slow it initiates any type of data usage. Sometimes my phone just sits there forever waiting for google to load. One day you'll look back and realize how much of a stepping stone 3G really was.
Everyone whining about "just a few seconds" obviously are just thinking in terms of up and down speed. The latency on AT&T's 3G network is RIDICULOUS, it is constantly 400+ ms. With LTE on AT&T's network, the latency I have seen on the HTC Jetstream is around 75 ms, a VAST improvement. I really hope Apple has LTE in their phone, I live in a major market (SF) and AT&T will likely have LTE here before the end of the year. I would really appreciate the real 4G speeds on my phone, it also doesn't hurt that I have an unlimited data plan.
Seems like you're whining like a "little bitch" right now. Glad everything is working out the way you want it though.
I completely agree. This is just a repeat of 2G V.S 3G. Tons of ill-informed posters that believed 3G was just too unusable and not practical enough for cellphones. I bet it's just the next generation of complainers.
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You're seeing this completely wrong. A 400KB page on Edge is still a 400Kb page on 3G. And a 400Kb page on 3G is still a 400KB page on LTE. So do you still want to tell me how LTE will cause people to use up a tiered data package?
Just to make you think even more. Even if you only had a 1Kilobyte download on an Edge connection you could still use up to 2.5GB of data in a single month. Speed makes no difference.
The real problem is Apples obsession with bulimic supermodel values. If they would stop worry about thinning it down further & give it a proper battery we'd have no issues with LTE impacting run times.