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Write a letter to Apple about the mini iPod

Re: Re: Write a letter to Apple about the mini iPod

AHAHHAH, good one. Apple dont case about their users, just their bottom line, when will people see this.
Originally posted by tjwett
I think I'll write them 2 letters; F & U.
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Re: Re: Re: Write a letter to Apple about the mini iPod

Originally posted by 1macker1
AHAHHAH, good one. Apple dont case about their users, just their bottom line, when will people see this.
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Yeah F&U that's just genius. And Apple doesn't care about their users, uh yeah they do but they're also a company who needs to make money, they need to satisfy shareholders, pay their employees, the manufacturers, the designers, etc. Yes, they don't work for free. Oh, and maybe they would like to make more money (gasp!)—its almost like they were oh I don't know capitalists. Grow up.
 
Originally posted by jeff.macaddict
Please post your iTunes library size/song count.
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1,111 songs. Don't have the days/GB count here at work, but it's over 5 GB total.

Some of that, though, are one-star songs I don't need to carry with me, and stuff like the Dr. Demento novelty tunes that I just keep to have. I bet if I was just syncing playlists, rather than my entire library, and didn't have a System 9 install backed up to my iPod, a Mini would do just fine on capacity for a while. Though given the accelerated rate at which iTMS has made me buy music (and CDs!) I'm not quite sure whether 4 GB would be enough. The tiny size would be the attractor, for me.

Bet you they'll wait, see how sales are going, get some market research back on price points, and then lower it closer to $200. By then capacity may increase too.
Originally posted by hulugu
Never be a first adopter. The bleeding edge is just that.
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Exactly. And if the competition is priced at the same point for less capacity, why should Apple lower an already competitive price?
 
I think the pricing is really fair, and especially when you look both at the cost of these super slim HDs and the cost of the competition. It's really good. People complain that Apple needs a bigger market share and to grow larger, but yet they scream and complain "no fair" whenever they think Apple is trying to make some money and grow.
 
Originally posted by Kwyjibo
I agree that apple didn't make a smart pricing plan, but the features are there and I wouldn't be surprised if after 6 months the ipod mini is $199
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I agree with you Kwyjibo. Apple probably could have sold the iPodmini for $199, but there are tons of people who will pay $249. Thus, to expand on your theory. (no real proof here)

today - 4GB for $249
3 months - 2GB for ~ $175
6 months - $25-75 price drop on both.

This will bring a ton of interested people out to buy the product. Sure, some will complain about the initial prices, but in the end, Apple WILL get your money. There's no way to fight them!!! ;)
 
Since when did Mac fanatics become marketing specialists?!

This is the CHEAPEST, SMALLEST ipod ever, and it has comparable storage to the first one (which is still quite a bit).

What in the world is there to complain about? I can't imagine all of you actually believed Apple was going to release a sub-$200 iPod.
 
I believed it

Alas, I thought apple was going to announce a 150 dollar ipod. And now no iPod for me. Cornice's announcement of their 2 GB drives was very well timed - for their own publicity. It sure through (edit: threw) a whole bunch of us mac fanatics for a loop though, leaving me sorely disappointed. I could have afforded $150. I can't afford $250. Now I'm sifting through other mp3 players. All I want is something to store a bunch of audio books (for learning pimsleur german).... but I'm having a lot of trouble finding anything I like, in the wake of the iPod.
 
i just sent in my letter and heres how it goes...

'i would like to comment on the recently released mini iPod. dont you guys think the price is slightly outrageous? $250 is a bit overpriced considering the 15gb iPod is only $50 more. i was looking forward to buying a mini iPod for each of my children, but for $250, i dont think so. As in every online forum that i visited, most people share my view. can you please justify why the mini iPod is so expensive?'

...after i sent the letter i realized, wouldnt a online petition with a formal letter sent directly to apple be more appropriate?
 
The final test of the success or failure of the iPod mini is sales volume. People will vote with their money.
 
apple does not get it

>>>>>>>>>>
If you don't want to spend $249, then get a Rio. Get an eJam. Not that you'll be satisfied with it, but you'll be saving some cash. >>>>>>>>>>

many people will do just that and apple will feel the pain because of it.

Apple just does not get it. Now is the time to close the door on the competition and lower the price (and profit margin) for the sake of market share)
 
This is the CHEAPEST, SMALLEST ipod ever, and it has comparable storage to the first one (which is still quite a bit).

the goal is not to be the cheapest, smallest iPod... the goal is a cheaper music player.


What in the world is there to complain about? I can't imagine all of you actually believed Apple was going to release a sub-$200 iPod.


Yes.. this is exactly what we thought.
 
Originally posted by jeff.macaddict
I actually wouldn't mind having half the size of the iPod mini's hard drive for half the price, or just a more reasonable one.
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the 4GB is the first mini. give apple a month or two and im sure theyll make a 2GB thats less expensive.

the 4GB mini gives apple a chance to cash in on those people that buy the first thing that comes out.
 
Originally posted by ioinc


the goal is not to be the cheapest, smallest iPod... the goal is a cheaper music player.
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I don't understand, y don't you get it. This is cheaper than a 512mb player? It is a cheaper player, there is nothing remotely compareable at this price range.
 
I think those who have justified this new mini-iPod based on technology have the stronger argument.

Not only is the smaller HD used (almost undoubtably) much more expensive per GB, think about the fact that the already small motherboard in the iPod is now even smaller.

It all costs money, people. The 15 gig is only $50 more because it is still using comparatively old technology, cheaper for Apple to acquire, and cheaper for them to make. I'm sure you will see price drops on the mini when the tech needed to make them comes down as well.

This is kinda just common sense, don't ya think? I mean, look at the price of the smallest PC laptops compared to the normal sized. Small = $$, as it has been pointed out before.
 
First iPod

You know, I totally forgot that just over a year ago, I purchased first gen 5Gb iPod for $300. It was a brick that I ended up selling on eBay for $200 to get my current 15Gb (mid-range) iPod. Just goes to show you how much things change in a year.
 
Originally posted by Considering
I think those who have justified this new mini-iPod based on technology have the stronger argument.

Not only is the smaller HD used (almost undoubtably) much more expensive per GB, think about the fact that the already small motherboard in the iPod is now even smaller.

It all costs money, people. The 15 gig is only $50 more because it is still using comparatively old technology, cheaper for Apple to acquire, and cheaper for them to make. I'm sure you will see price drops on the mini when the tech needed to make them comes down as well.

This is kinda just common sense, don't ya think? I mean, look at the price of the smallest PC laptops compared to the normal sized. Small = $$, as it has been pointed out before.
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Good post. Voice of reason. Smaller is always more expensive. If you're not happy with it, check out the competition. That's the way the market works.

Squire
 
This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while. It is a deal. It's a great looking, and increadably small player. I'm sure if they could sell it for 100, 150 or 200 they would. For crying out loud, people, stop your crying.
 
Steves target for this ipod thing

I am in agreement with the opinion that this mini player will never take on the flash market at this price, but that was Steve on stage saying that, not a banner from Apple's site.

I think they are going for the size, rather than the price point market and they may drop the price later if it doesnt shift.

My thoughts are that flash memory card mp3 players will dry up and go away over the coming months. The reason is the rapidly changing and growing mobile phone market. My N-gage, which was free as a contract phone has an amazing AAC player built in. More will follow. Once the flash mp3 player has been swallowed over the coming year or 2, the phone guys will turn their attention to the palm market; it will eventually replace all those pocket sized gadgets in your pocket with one. If this happens, Steves aim becomes a mute point, there won't be a market to go after.

I wish however that Apple would work on OSX mobile, for phones. Microsoft are in that market right now and they will prise it open with a crow bar. My brother is already reaping the costs; his Microsoft powered phone will only play video in windows format, whereas my java based phone has a real player that handles all sorts of stuff. Shame QT isnt there, but I can hope.
 
Originally posted by Durandal7
Miniturization = Money
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Damn right. (bids on newbie's pea-sized brain for $10,000)


Re: Write a letter to Apple about the mini iPod

I think Apple knows by now... :rolleyes:
 
Apple didn't have a choice. What were they going to put in it? Flash RAM is too dear and there's no 1 & 2 gig mini drives around cheap enough either. (Bear in mind they were prob in design and production for more than a year)

No, the question is, why didn't Apple wait six months longer when it's probable they could have done 2Gb for $150?

The answer... I reckon they just wanted to get into (or establish) the market now, even if they risk not selling many.

You can bet that more people now will buy the 2GB model when it does arrive either out of spite (just to prove to APple they should have come out with a 2G model originally) or because they've seen the mini's and have mentally committed to buying one - but not till they come down in price.

I would actually still seriously consider a 4Gb model over a 15Gb model.

1) I just don't need 15Gb
2) 100 bucks is a 100 bucks is still a lot of money (In AUD$ as they'll prob be $350 compared to $450 for 15gb)
3) They're trendier simply by being newer
4) White's nice, but I like color.
5) I like smaller an lighter
 
From seeing the reactions of many people, there does seem to be a good market for these. A lot of us don't have 15 gigs worth of music, so we don't have any desire to spend even $50 more for the 15 gig iPod when a smaller, cheaper version that looks sharp and handles our needs is now out. Not to mention that plenty of people would rather have a silver or a blue or a pink iPod than a white one.
 
i think apple is going to do well with these. i look at these as a coolness factor and size factor as apposed to gigabytes. i want a mini ipod so bad, and i will probably buy one just ot have one. i love the size.these will play out just like the 5gb ipods, give it some time and they will probably drop to 199, just like how every apple product does. so of you complaining, just wait cause apples not gona give a s*** about what you say about ipods, steve will have you all on the automatic spam filter in mail anyways. i have already sold some and nobody was complaing about prices, there is a market for them, and they will sell, they will sell just fine.

iJon
 
iPod mini pricing/value

Just thought I'd put this out there, as it seems that so many people think the mini is overpriced.

Yes, of course, I'd like it to be cheaper... wouldn't we all agree on that, same as with anything we'd like to purchase :)

But, heres some info, some of you know this, some dont, so here goes:

A little over a year ago, i wanted a small MP3 player to use with an armband for gym workouts...

The iPod was too big in my opinion, and... i saw no need to have 1/3, 1/2 or my entire MP3 library with me at all times.

Long story short... i decided on the Nike PSA, by Philips...

Yes, its small
Yes, it has an armband
Yes, it has nice earpods with a cool 'rear exit' wire to keep it out of your way, and very good sound quality

But.... this thing cost OVER $200, and generally (depending on file size, of course) only hold about 18-22 songs at one time!

On top of that (no OS X support).... being an exclusive Mac user and on OS X.... every time I want to change the songs... I have to re-boot into OS 9.2.2 (not Classic, doesnt even work in that mode), true OS 9 boot.... then reformat the drive, then drag over, and wait forever for each song to copy over.

After Im thru, I have to reboot back into OS X. Of course, with only 20 songs, you end up doing this frequently, because you get tired of whats on there.

For about $40.00 more, Apple has a tiny, very cool looking, and universally compatible device that holds about 1000 songs.

Im not here to start a battle, just to say that trust me.... as a real-world user.... the mini IS worth the money. Yes, its great when prices drop on anything, we all like it. But, even now... this product is a good value on so many levels.

If Im able to sell this Nike on eBay for a decent amount to some PC user out there..... Im all over the mini, even at $249.

BTW.... I see these things on tons of peoples arms at the gym, so.... obviously, there are plenty of people who have spent in this price-point already... all real-world candidates for the mini the next time around. And, thats a good thing :)

Thanks. Peace, Mark ~
 
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