wrong clock time, apple servers, 2 minutes fast

Discussion in 'iPhone Tips, Help and Troubleshooting' started by NewGenAdam, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. NewGenAdam macrumors 6502

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    So I notice my iPhone (and MacBook) clock is consistently two very accurate minutes fast. Point of reference is the BBC pips, and other things.
    I've set it to the correct time several times, but it has reset to being incorrect consistently!!

    Can I diagnose an Apple Time Server inaccuracy or problem?
    It's incredibly annoying.
     
  2. r6girl Administrator/Editor

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    I'm pretty sure the iPhone synchronizes the time with your carrier, not Apple. If you want to disable this, go to Settings/General/Date & Time and switch the Set Automatically setting to off.

    Your Mac does contact Apple's servers and you can disable this by going to System Preferences/Date & Time and de-select the Set date & time automatically setting there.

    Why are you so sure that Apple's time is off and that the BBC's is correct? Both my Mac and iPhone (time set by AT&T) are spot on with the time provided by the U.S. government (http://www.time.gov/).
     
  3. NewGenAdam thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Ooh contentious; The BBC versus the US government!! Love it.
    The BBC pips are widely known to be incontrovertible. My Atomic Watch iPhone App agrees with them but neither my iphone or mac, which are both together and out.

    In summary:

    GMT + 2 minutes
    iPhone and Mac

    GMT + 0 minutes
    clock radio, bbc pips, atomic watch app

    Ahh!!
     
  4. r6girl Administrator/Editor

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    Technically, it's only in relation to your Mac since your iPhone gets its time from your local carrier. ;)

    You could always submit feedback to your local carrier and Apple on this issue, though I'm not sure how receptive they'll be to the idea of fixing any discrepancy.
     
  5. NewGenAdam thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I fear I'd be the metaphorical drop in an ocean. And then scorned some for good measure.

    It's so annoying!!
    And there is no "set time automagically" option on my iPhone, it just does its thing unchangeably...
    Great. And to ice the cake, I've lost my watch, which rarely loses more than a a second per month
     
  6. solarkismet macrumors newbie

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    Macbook Off by 13 Minutes

    My Macbook is set to sync to the Apple Servers but is 13 minutes faster than both my iPhone and official time clocks online.

    I'm always scared I'm late for a meeting when I work at home, since I don't work at home very often and get used to it...
     
  7. NewGenAdam thread starter macrumors 6502

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    When that happened to me, I cmd-dragged the clock out of the bar so I wouldn't accidentally get the wrong time. Since October I've been wearing a watch just to be certain!
    I'm actually quite fond of the watch. Mildly antiquated, but somehow acceptable
     
  8. thebill macrumors member

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    Does Anybody (@ AT&T) Really Know What Time It Is?

    Both my Mac and iPhone (time set by AT&T) are spot on with the time provided by the U.S. government (http://www.time.gov/).[/QUOTE]

    Your AT&T is spot on. Wow. Here in IL, ever since purchasing my 3GS in June of '09, my iPhone time has NEVER, NOT NOWAY, NOT NOHOW been on time thru the cell towers. I've complained to the local store & complained to national cust. serv. No help, no reason given, just "change your settings to manual if u don't like it!"
    So I use my atomic watch but you'd think in this day & age........
    Oh, had to go in to local AT&T store for diff problem recently, the time discussion came up. The tech guy (who doesn't use his phone to check time) & I whipped 'em out to compare....his was 1 min fast, mine was 40 sec slow. Then as we continued to try different things, mine went to 2 min fast. We both just shook our heads.....no way to 'splain. I give up! :mad:
    P. S. My computer time is always spot on from the Apple time server. :D
     
  9. NewGenAdam thread starter macrumors 6502

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    that's irritating... When I tried setting my iPhone time to manual, it wouldn't let me. Luckily now it's reverted to the correct time, but I still feel vulnerable!
     
  10. Ghenghis macrumors newbie

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    With all due respect that is true but also has no bearing at all on the problem.

    It is what is meant by the latin phrase "Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc".

    The reason the reasoning is fallacious is because a great many iPhone users all over the World are experiencing the same +5 minutes iPhone PROBLEM.

    I am based in London (Do I really have to say London,England so that Americans realise I do not mean the one in Canada with 352k citizens?):) and so my carrier is of course totally different to those in the US of A.

    Unless maybe we all need to contact our carriers and advise them that we have cottoned on to their global conspiracy to always be +5 on Greenwich (England) Mean Time?
     
  11. jer16 macrumors newbie

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    O2 time servers

    I'm in the UK too so my iPhone time should be provided by O2. I searched the web for O2 time server and found someone at O2help.co.uk saying the default O2 time server in UK is not working; it related to Broadband not mobiles but it gave me a simple idea:

    1. Take the iPhone off "automatic"
    2. Set the date and time manually.

    Not sure yet whether to put it back to automatic though, in case I forget when the daylight saving changes and become confused.
     
  12. Ghenghis macrumors newbie

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    You can do it like that but then it only gets refreshed when you do it.

    Its a fault with iPhones and needs a fix from Apple
     

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