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Exactly. Whether good or bad it perpetuates the notion that Apple isn't playing fairly. Not a good thing given the current political climate.
This could be mitigated by opening up the same API’s that apple uses so other developers can enhance their own apps. Until they do, it isn’t “fair” and will be subject to scrutiny.
 
'The app will analyze the users' behavior to determine what a typical day is like, including how much time is spent at home compared with elsewhere, and whether a certain day included something outside the norm'

And thus increasing anxiety about how much time you spend doing this and that, comparing your data to others data, planning how to overcome the new problems....

This won't fix mental health issues. It will compound them. The beauty of having an actual journal is that it does non of the stated 'benefits' of an app. It's you, the paper and the pen. Freedom to write what you like in quiet solitude. The journal cannot bring up a youtube video, send a text, receive a call, send a social media message while you are writing either.

Point well taken. I’m a paper person, too.

But a lot of my journaling consists of simple descriptive notes of what occurred that day. This often consists of mundane things like when I woke up, what I ate, exercised, traveled, etc.

I find these little notes incredibly useful in forming a continuum of existence. I refer to them often later, mostly for curiosity sometimes for real info. For example, when was the first snow?

Many of these events are already captured on my phone. It would be awesome to just tap and insert meaningful text messages, emails, photos.
 
By this reasoning, anything Apple does can be construed as not playing fair, and there’s no way to add any new features to iOS without replicating something else which already exists elsewhere. I say screw the complainers, and there’s something called a lawsuit if they have beef with Apple.
Yes, and since journaling apps and apps that aggregate your personal information into a readable database format are nothing new, it's hard to see why anyone can claim to have a corner on that market.

Day One will be hard to beat, if Apple is actually releasing a product that's competitive with it.

Adding to that, Apple's software bundled into macOS and iOS/iPadOS is typically very rudimentary at first, and takes at least a few generations to really evolve into something that's at least as useful as its third-party counterparts. Take Evernote as an example. Apple Notes may have its strengths and simplicity, but it doesn't have the power, functionality or cross-platform compatibility that Evernote has, and it likely never will. Numbers is another example. It's a fine spreadsheet tool that covers most of the basics, but it doesn't quite hold its own in the world of business and professional data management against the venerable Excel.
 
Apple's app will have the ability to gather much more user data than third-party journaling apps, and will have access to text messages and phone calls, but privacy and security will be central to the software's design.
Apple, a corporation is getting more of your data. How is that different from Google or Microsoft? How is that privacy? And security? From Whom? From Apple. No. From US Gov. No. Is it good only when Apple collects the data?
 
User mental health will automatically improve as Apple sherlocks every subscription third-party app.
 
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By this reasoning, anything Apple does can be construed as not playing fair, and there’s no way to add any new features to iOS without replicating something else which already exists elsewhere. I say screw the complainers, and there’s something called a lawsuit if they have beef with Apple.
For essential services and key apps there is definitely a strong rationale that they can access things others cannot. For a journaling app? Not really.
 
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I’ll certainly consider using this instead of creating all-day events in Calendar, adding notes to the event and applicable emoji for the titles. There’s no vacuum cleaner, lol.

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Day One will be hard to beat, if Apple is actually releasing a product that's competitive with it.

We've seen that before with Apple. iPod (competing with MP3 players, which fostered people ripping off music) and iPhone (competing with other "smart" phones that were pretty atrocious) come to mind.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Apple's vision of a journalling app turns out being. Have a feeling it will be pretty slick and easy to use. Similar to Notes.
 
Seems to me that keeping up a journal takes a lot of discipline. I consider myself to be quite a disciplined person and yet I’ve started and failed to maintain a journal several times. Clearly not as as disciplined as I need to be. Anything that can make it easier to capture and organise my thinking and the various threads that run through my day would be very welcome. This is one of those areas where a privacy focused Apple could really shine.
 
“The new Apple product underscores the company's growing interest in mental health.”

Aside from a wide variety of beliefs, no one knows what mental health is. So how sure are you that “mental health” is dependent and producible? Even more, except for a few people in this world, no one knows who he or she really is. If you do not who’s (trying to stay) mentally healthy, how sure are you that what you think is your mental health refers to you?
 
'The app will analyze the users' behavior to determine what a typical day is like, including how much time is spent at home compared with elsewhere, and whether a certain day included something outside the norm'

And thus increasing anxiety about how much time you spend doing this and that, comparing your data to others data, planning how to overcome the new problems....

This won't fix mental health issues. It will compound them. The beauty of having an actual journal is that it does non of the stated 'benefits' of an app. It's you, the paper and the pen. Freedom to write what you like in quiet solitude. The journal cannot bring up a youtube video, send a text, receive a call, send a social media message while you are writing either.
Not everyone is the same. For some I agree a digital journal may be less beneficial than a paper journal; for others this could be an excellent solution and a valuable tool. I’ve been a dayOne user for 8+years and it’s a key part of my well-being strategy; in ways that a paper journal never was or could be. YMMV.
 
Adding to that, Apple's software bundled into macOS and iOS/iPadOS is typically very rudimentary at first, and takes at least a few generations to really evolve into something that's at least as useful as its third-party counterparts.
I find that Apple's stock apps are usually left "rudimentary" on purpose. They provide like 80% of the functionality, which is usually good enough for the majority of their users, and people can then flock to third party apps if they desire more features (eg: sleep tracking in the apple watch vs dedicated apps).

It looks like this might be integrated into their health app, and I imagine a key selling point would be privacy (in addition to it being automatically preinstalled on 1 billion iPhones once iOS 17 hits). It could also be a way to get people to take some time to reflect and for their own introspection, something that few bother with in the hustle and bustle of everyday life (myself included).

On a side note, I wonder if this might leverage on any of the lessons Apple has picked up with the Lumihealth app?


Amongst one of the activities I can complete to earn points is to journal about my day, which is something I don't actually bother doing and just click done to log in to the task. Having a free app that comes with templates which help streamline this process might be the little added nudge that people need.
 
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Apple's app will have the ability to gather much more user data than third-party journaling apps, and will have access to text messages and phone calls, but privacy and security will be central to the software's design.
Apple, a corporation is getting more of your data. How is that different from Google or Microsoft? How is that privacy? And security? From Whom? From Apple. No. From US Gov. No. Is it good only when Apple collects the data?

Perhaps not marketing and selling your data to other entities?
 
I find that Apple's stock apps are usually left "rudimentary" on purpose. They provide like 80% of the functionality, which is usually good enough for the majority of their users, and people can then flock to third party apps if they desire more features (eg: sleep tracking in the apple watch vs dedicated apps).

And that's what I love about Apple Notes.

And why transitioning from Evernote a decade ago was a HUGE breath of fresh air for me (even though Evernote had more stuff to twiddle).

Apple nailed it with Notes. It never gets in your way or slows you down. And that's why I'm optimistic with their upcoming journalling app.
 
THIS would be even better on the iPad. iPhone such a small screen to journal on. maybe text. not journal.
 
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This is grea! Im still looking forward to the day they do a food and cooking app in a similar vein to apple fitness.
 
Excellent news! I've been waiting for an Apple-developed journalling app.

I currently use Notes for keeping track of stuff and to jot down random information, project ideas, meetings, sketches, trips, photographs I've made for book ideas, photobook book dummies (prototypes), interviews, reminders, people I've talked to, to-do lists, and on and on for for both iOS and macOS going back ten years.

Notes just works, seamlessly across all devices, and was a breath for fresh air coming from Evernote and never being totally happy with it.

Looking forward to see what Apple comes up with for their journalling app. Have a feeling it will be great.
Yep, I do the same. I’m sure there are apps out there that do it very well, but I’m also sure that they have switched to the subscription model, so I’m happy that Apple provides this type of functionalities without having to add yet another sub to my bill.
 
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