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Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by adder7712, Aug 30, 2013.
Courtesy of The Verge.
Should BlackBerry just give up and focus more on software?
Its sad because other than crappy support on app world, I really think the Z10 is a lovely device and BB10 is stacked full of potential. Their keyboard is fantastic on the Z10.
I have to say I'm not surprised, the time for physical keyboards has passed.
I saw a similar article on cnet where they also mentioned that the z10 sales were lackluster as well.
I think Blackberry is running out options at this point. MS is slowing gaining steam with their mobile products, apple and android are the market leaders. There's really no room for BB, in fact I think its getting hard for the company to convince carriers to give up precious shelf space for a product that won't sell.
It's also a durability issue. My Pocket PC didn't have a keyboard, my dad's HTC Hermes did. He loved my Pocket PC, but HATED the HTC smartphone. It didn't last him long. And this was back when they would give you the phone that someone left after quitting/being fired.
Same issue with his hand-me-down Blackberry. The keys just suffered too much wear and tear.
They upgraded him to an iPhone 4 like two years ago. He's very happy with it.
An article is posted on Crackberry.com on this and related matters by a Chris Umiastowski. What is noteworthy is that Kevin Michaluk, the founder of Crackberry.com, contributed to this article and affirms several negatives. As expected, it is causing a firestorm there. People can toss around "apple fanboi" and "android fanboi" here but it appears there is nothing remotely like a blackberry fanboi if you read the comments section.
Great article and the comments are interesting. I haven't read through all them, but so far a lot of those members thing blackberry has failed in marketing their products. I'd agree to that to some degree.
apple is also behind in terms of hardware, the thing which makes the iphone so successful is the software. BB should concentrate on the software. heavy marketing is also a MAJOR key to success(but, making a good product comes first).
At this point the BlackBerry Q10 is a niche product.
At least that is the case here in the USA. That pattern of phone is still quite desirable in some markets.
I don't think anyone should have expected the Q10 to light the world on fire here in the USA.
bb fanboys lack the ability of reason, they will defend bb till the death... literally till death is knocking on the door.
Haha crackberry. All those fanboys are ridiculous.
A friend of mine works at a big carrier and says that Blackberrys have been the most returned phones this summer and that a lot of customers have complained about hardware issues. A few years ago I thought Blackberry should've just focused on software, now even that may be too late.
Agreed. Blackberry is dying a slow death. It is sad, but inevitable.
It is strange just seeing "crackberry" these days. The days of being addicted to BB are long gone.
Oh I can believe that. Im in Toronto and the Star, naturally, has lots of coverage of Blackberry. Even now the commenters insist the Star has an anti BB agenda and theyre exaggerating everything.
Here in Canada Blackberry has been a major sponsor (along with in-show product placement) of The Amazing Race Canada, which is a massive hit. It has 3 million weekly viewers - equivalent to 30 million in the US, which no shows get there anymore - and it isnt helping.
Glad I didn't buy one, I was tempted to for that keyboard. Sounds to me like Blackberry might end up ditching their phones.
Is anyone shocked?
No. It was going to happen, and it was going to happen within these last two years. Blackberry, Palm/WebOS never opened themselves up to attract more than just the business users and texters, and that's your problem right there.
Microsoft may be struggling with Windows Phone, but it's only going to get better for them. Windows 8 sucks of course, but WP is great, and more and more people are jumping onboard everyday, and that includes developers. They're going to be a HUGE threat to Android, especially when one single app kicks the heck out of the 100 that are on the Play Store. It looks great, it works great, and in many ways it reminds me of iOS a lot.
Hence the name Crackberry.
black berry has given up, their company is up for grabs. and the worst thing they did was to bring BBM on iOS and android (it was one of their best selling points). BB will completely vanish in 4-5 yrs.
Except for the apps.
Don't iOS users make a big big deal about apps? How can some of them convert to WP so willingly?
You find alternatives really quickly, I did anyway. Plus, you find new ones too.
This camera is ****ing amazing too. The filter apps are cool too.
BB is way worst than WP when it comes to apps.
Agreed. But I was pointing out that a big reason iOS users lately can't seem to justify the switch from iOS to Android is because of the apps/ecosystem. So I wonder how some can make the switch over to WP. Is it only for the smoothness? Or perhaps those that do switch don't care about apps as much as those that don't?
You just answered your own question. Many just want camera, media, and basic social apps, along with standard functions of any cell phone. For others, style means everything. Then you have those that just want to be or have something different.
I think they should of advertised to the mature consumer, like mid 30s to 60s. I played with differ WP numerous times and it just didn't feel like a phone you tap rapidly through, seemed more like a steady paced/take your time kind of OS.