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WTF is this? I need to restart my computer?
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Foxer
macrumors 65816
This is EXACTLY the problem that I (and many others) had with the 12-inch PB. If you're using an airport extreme card, all you need to do to solve this problem is remove and SNUGLY reattach the AE card.
Many, many KP's before (especially when touching/holding the left front side (above the AE card)). Not one in the two months sicne the "fix."
hugemullens
macrumors 6502a
I tried that, a couple times and it wouldnt fix it. But i bet thats the problem. Hopefully they can get it fixed for me. I am off to cedar point for 4 days so i'm hoping i wont have wait long when i get back for it.
janey
macrumors 603
i crashed my iBook while it was starting up...it was awesome...it went all weird and gave me all these error messages, then gave me the kernel panic with the grayed background, then kept going with the error messages until it stopped and i restarted...it was after i tried crashing loginwindow by doing the screensaver thing...
iShater
macrumors 604
Not if you see some of the lines over there!!!
Besides, it is a nice resort isn't it?
Back to kernel panics. I had at least two that I remember with my iBook, one happened with an SMB mount, I shutdown the windows machine and forgot to remove the mout from OSX, it wasn't happy. The other time which I might still be able to replicate happens when the modem is setup to prompt you if you are receiving a phone call. The moment the msg box shows up to inform me of an incoming call, BOOM, the panic happens.
But other than that this baby has been very stable, 12 days up and counting, I am hoping it will beat my Linux record of 30+ days, and Windows NT record of 50 or so days.
Gotta be Windows SMB or RAM
Anytime this ever happens to me is when I connect to an SMB share and forget to disconnect it when I'm through with it or if I have bad RAM ordered from, and I don't mind saying it, Mohawk Industries I believe (found them off of pricewatch). Next time it'll be Crucial; I don't know what of RAM I have now, whatever the ServiceNet guys put in it. But regardless, I've had six kernel panics so far this year:
One was b/c there was a thunderstorm that shut down power, and I have a FireWire HD connected to the laptop so the HD shut down and I unplugged, then plugged it back in too quickly. BAM! KPed on me!
The other five times have been while trying to connect to my roommate's Windows machine through SMB; when it works, it's flawless. But when it gives you an error during the connection process, may as while as restart rather than waiting for a KP, unless you really want to!😛
Anytime this ever happens to me is when I connect to an SMB share and forget to disconnect it when I'm through with it or if I have bad RAM ordered from, and I don't mind saying it, Mohawk Industries I believe (found them off of pricewatch). Next time it'll be Crucial; I don't know what of RAM I have now, whatever the ServiceNet guys put in it. But regardless, I've had six kernel panics so far this year:
One was b/c there was a thunderstorm that shut down power, and I have a FireWire HD connected to the laptop so the HD shut down and I unplugged, then plugged it back in too quickly. BAM! KPed on me!
The other five times have been while trying to connect to my roommate's Windows machine through SMB; when it works, it's flawless. But when it gives you an error during the connection process, may as while as restart rather than waiting for a KP, unless you really want to!😛
Thanks
I'm glad I found this list. I've got a G4 12" and was running into frequent kernel panics. I think six in one day was the max, but I could have had more if I hadn't been extra careful not to touch the left side of the machine or to move the machine abruptly by even the tiniest amount. I had just about concluded that I was going to have to bolt the machine down to a desktop and use an external keyboard for the rest of its life. 😡
I was on the verge of sending my machine to Apple when I found this thread. Based on it I looked at the Airport Extreme Card and, sure enough, it was almost 2 mm prowed - it was so loose it was almost ready to fall out.
I pushed it in and now I can grap this puppy by the left side and do anything I want and no kernel panic. 😎
Thanks a bunch!
Fenevad
I'm glad I found this list. I've got a G4 12" and was running into frequent kernel panics. I think six in one day was the max, but I could have had more if I hadn't been extra careful not to touch the left side of the machine or to move the machine abruptly by even the tiniest amount. I had just about concluded that I was going to have to bolt the machine down to a desktop and use an external keyboard for the rest of its life. 😡
I was on the verge of sending my machine to Apple when I found this thread. Based on it I looked at the Airport Extreme Card and, sure enough, it was almost 2 mm prowed - it was so loose it was almost ready to fall out.
I pushed it in and now I can grap this puppy by the left side and do anything I want and no kernel panic. 😎
Thanks a bunch!
Fenevad
Powerbook G5
macrumors 68040
You know...the 12" PowerBook at the Apple store I go to gets quite a few kernal panics if you play around with it for more than a few minutes...it's quite odd, considering they should easily have the resources to fix it after all these months.
So let me get this straight. If my computer ceases to work, puts up a weird screen with jibberish, and then i have to reboot.
I call this a Kernal Panic.
Is this because OS X does not crash?
I call this a Kernal Panic.
Is this because OS X does not crash?
Stabilant-22!
BTW, what with all the talk here of poorly-seated AE cards and possibly-bad RAM, I thought I'd take a moment to plug a contact-enhancer I discovered called Stabilant-22.
No, I'm not a shill, don't work for them, not getting paid by them, haven't even met any of 'em; I just think it's an amazing product and want to spread the word. The Canadian mfrs don't even distribute directly to consumers in the US (they mostly contract large orders directly to industrial and gov't/mil. concerns), but you can get it from a few US resellers who buy in bulk from the factory. Amusingly, the easiest US source to locate is the parts desk of your local VW/Audi dealership (part # ZVW 186 001)! That's how I found out about this stuff, specified to solve multi-pin/card-edge electrical contact problems in the factory repair manual for my (late, lamented) Audi 5000 wagon.
In a nutshell, Stabilant-22 is a polymer designed to "fill the gaps" between electrical contacts with a substance that is only conductive in the presence of an electrical field within a very close range, so when used on multi-pin or card-edge contacts, it enhances conductivity only across each physical contact (almost as good as a soldered joint!) while insulating in-between the contacts. The mfrs used to set up their trade-show booth running their computer with its mobo fully submerged in the stuff, and it ran perfectly fine, allegedly even more stably. A highly-diluted form of this same stuff was once resold by another distributor in audiophile shops as "TWEEK" a few years ago, but the redistributors' over-dilution of the polymer gave that version of the product a bit of a mixed reputation, but many audio geex absolutely swore by the stuff while it was available. However, the over-dilution debacle made the mfrs gun-shy about dealing with the consumer market or resellers/remarketers ever again. Another pro-audio shop in NY is selling it in normal-dilution strength nowadays, but it's just plain easier to get it from your local VW/Audi dealer. 🙂
When I was cobbling together my Frankentosh, an 8600/200 tower with RAM, PCI cards, and drives salvaged from several other abused and deceased Macs in my then-employer's boneyard, I was having some frustrating drive and stability problems early on. I wondered if the card-edge contacts on the RAM or PCI cards, and/or SCSI pin contacts on the drives (the box and drives had seen a lotta drive swapping in their history) were as good as they outta be. I figured trying Stabilant was cheaper than buying new RAM, hi-grade SCSI ribbons, new drives, etc. -- at least as a first resort, couldn't hurt to try it, no? I ambled down to the VW/Audi dealer to get the goods, stopped by Wal-Mart for some cosmetic applicators (foam-tip swabs like used to apply eye-shadow, since I didn't wanna use the cotton swabs that came in the Stabilant kit), and I went to work treating and un-/re-seating all my RAM, PCI cards, and SCSI connectors (which I'd done before without the Stabilant, and without positive results). Bam! Problems solved.
A few notes: Stabilant is only a contact enhancer, not a contact cleaner. You'll wanna use a real contact cleaner first if your contacts are already dirty or tarnished, then you can apply the Stabilant on clean, shiny contacts. Also, don't use it across unlike-metal contacts (e.g., aluminum RCA jacks w/ gold RCA plugs = gunky buildup over time, but gold-to-gold or alum.-to-alum. etc. is all good). The stuff also dries kinda gummy-sticky, so it may not be a good idea if a lot of dust/debris/cat hair is likely to enter your case. Oh, also remember to let the Stabilant's alcohol solvent evaporate before you power up your gear (I waited overnite, just to be sure), so that unevaporated alcohol won't cause a short!
I love this stuff... 😀 😎
BTW, what with all the talk here of poorly-seated AE cards and possibly-bad RAM, I thought I'd take a moment to plug a contact-enhancer I discovered called Stabilant-22.
No, I'm not a shill, don't work for them, not getting paid by them, haven't even met any of 'em; I just think it's an amazing product and want to spread the word. The Canadian mfrs don't even distribute directly to consumers in the US (they mostly contract large orders directly to industrial and gov't/mil. concerns), but you can get it from a few US resellers who buy in bulk from the factory. Amusingly, the easiest US source to locate is the parts desk of your local VW/Audi dealership (part # ZVW 186 001)! That's how I found out about this stuff, specified to solve multi-pin/card-edge electrical contact problems in the factory repair manual for my (late, lamented) Audi 5000 wagon.
In a nutshell, Stabilant-22 is a polymer designed to "fill the gaps" between electrical contacts with a substance that is only conductive in the presence of an electrical field within a very close range, so when used on multi-pin or card-edge contacts, it enhances conductivity only across each physical contact (almost as good as a soldered joint!) while insulating in-between the contacts. The mfrs used to set up their trade-show booth running their computer with its mobo fully submerged in the stuff, and it ran perfectly fine, allegedly even more stably. A highly-diluted form of this same stuff was once resold by another distributor in audiophile shops as "TWEEK" a few years ago, but the redistributors' over-dilution of the polymer gave that version of the product a bit of a mixed reputation, but many audio geex absolutely swore by the stuff while it was available. However, the over-dilution debacle made the mfrs gun-shy about dealing with the consumer market or resellers/remarketers ever again. Another pro-audio shop in NY is selling it in normal-dilution strength nowadays, but it's just plain easier to get it from your local VW/Audi dealer. 🙂
When I was cobbling together my Frankentosh, an 8600/200 tower with RAM, PCI cards, and drives salvaged from several other abused and deceased Macs in my then-employer's boneyard, I was having some frustrating drive and stability problems early on. I wondered if the card-edge contacts on the RAM or PCI cards, and/or SCSI pin contacts on the drives (the box and drives had seen a lotta drive swapping in their history) were as good as they outta be. I figured trying Stabilant was cheaper than buying new RAM, hi-grade SCSI ribbons, new drives, etc. -- at least as a first resort, couldn't hurt to try it, no? I ambled down to the VW/Audi dealer to get the goods, stopped by Wal-Mart for some cosmetic applicators (foam-tip swabs like used to apply eye-shadow, since I didn't wanna use the cotton swabs that came in the Stabilant kit), and I went to work treating and un-/re-seating all my RAM, PCI cards, and SCSI connectors (which I'd done before without the Stabilant, and without positive results). Bam! Problems solved.
A few notes: Stabilant is only a contact enhancer, not a contact cleaner. You'll wanna use a real contact cleaner first if your contacts are already dirty or tarnished, then you can apply the Stabilant on clean, shiny contacts. Also, don't use it across unlike-metal contacts (e.g., aluminum RCA jacks w/ gold RCA plugs = gunky buildup over time, but gold-to-gold or alum.-to-alum. etc. is all good). The stuff also dries kinda gummy-sticky, so it may not be a good idea if a lot of dust/debris/cat hair is likely to enter your case. Oh, also remember to let the Stabilant's alcohol solvent evaporate before you power up your gear (I waited overnite, just to be sure), so that unevaporated alcohol won't cause a short!
I love this stuff... 😀 😎