iPad mini WTF Other???

galaxy7

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Now this is insane. Old girl (iPad 2) is getting slow and all that, but I recently wiped her clean. Started over as new device. I did NOT restore from any backup. I left it as s new device, thus all the old apps and anything else was not there. Then I logged into my apple acoounts and iCloud accounts. This gave me my calendar, notes, only one email account, etc; the basic stuff you would get from that. And then POOF...my other already looks like this crap! I follow the the videos Andy how-to’s all over the place on removing “other”, but even that doesn’t work. When I go check the files and locations these articles say check, there’s minimal data there. Nothing to discard. What the heck is up with this thing? Anything I’m missing you guys might now outside these articles?
 

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rui no onna

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I assume this is the iPad Air 2? I don't think iOS 9 ever had that menu and max for iPad 2 is iOS 9.3.5 (or did it get a .6 security fix?).

Note, "Other" includes storage that iOS has not yet finished categorizing. Could just be it just hasn't finished analyzing apps, iCloud photos, iCloud files, etc.

It'll probably still be 5GB or more though due to iOS, system and temp files.
 

*~Kim~*

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Nope, iOS 9 is the old format without the date in the corner and with the time in the middle of the screen. My other is currently 6.4GB on a 64GB Mini and other should be smaller with a smaller capacity. I have seen it at around 8GB though, so it does seem a bit random.

Cellular models stuck on 9.3.5 did indeed get a .6 security fix but I didn’t notice it change the home screen appearance (I updated my old iPad 3 that I gave to a relative.)
 

rui no onna

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Nope, iOS 9 is the old format without the date in the corner and with the time in the middle of the screen. My other is currently 6.4GB on a 64GB Mini and other should be smaller with a smaller capacity. I have seen it at around 8GB though, so it does seem a bit random.

Cellular models stuck on 9.3.5 did indeed get a .6 security fix but I didn’t notice it change the home screen appearance (I updated my old iPad 3 that I gave to a relative.)
The 6.4GB Other on your iPad mini 4 is already on the low end. At best, you'd get maybe 1-2GB less on smaller iPads. Granted, that's a nice chunk to free up when you only have 16GB to begin with.

My 512GB iPP 10.5 is currently sitting at 16GB Other but I've seen it go even higher (up to 50GB) on my 512GB iPP 12.9 with all other media, apps and expected appdata accounted for.

Kinda wish there's a way to clean up Other. I'm pretty sure a good chunk of the 16GB on my 10.5 are just failed, partial Amazon Video downloads that even the app doesn't recognize anymore.
 

sracer

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Now this is insane. Old girl (iPad 2) is getting slow and all that, but I recently wiped her clean. Started over as new device. I did NOT restore from any backup. I left it as s new device, thus all the old apps and anything else was not there. Then I logged into my apple acoounts and iCloud accounts. This gave me my calendar, notes, only one email account, etc; the basic stuff you would get from that. And then POOF...my other already looks like this crap! I follow the the videos Andy how-to’s all over the place on removing “other”, but even that doesn’t work. When I go check the files and locations these articles say check, there’s minimal data there. Nothing to discard. What the heck is up with this thing? Anything I’m missing you guys might now outside these articles?
Start over again. This time, install one app at a time (taking a screenshot before and after the install). For some things like the Facebook app... take a screenshot after install but before you sign in. Then take a screenshot about 15 minutes after you sign in.

This will help eliminate the possibility that OTHER is being taken up by files needed/downloaded by an app.
 

rui no onna

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Start over again. This time, install one app at a time (taking a screenshot before and after the install). For some things like the Facebook app... take a screenshot after install but before you sign in. Then take a screenshot about 15 minutes after you sign in.

This will help eliminate the possibility that OTHER is being taken up by files needed/downloaded by an app.
+1. Also, disable iCloud Photos and iCloud Drive initially.
 

Shirasaki

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I feel that one is an iPad mini 2, not iPad 2, which is capped at iOS 9.3.5. (Or iOS 9.3.6 for cellular model)

And for “others”, maybe, I say maybe, give it a whole 10 min and see how it goes.

If not good, like other member mentioned, start over again.
 

rui no onna

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Well, that's interesting.

iPad 13 now shows "System" and "Other" separately. On a 512GB Pro (newly reset prior to beta testing so pretty empty, just around 20 user-installed apps), System Files is at 5.25GB and Other System Data is at 3.95GB.
 

Shirasaki

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Well, that's interesting.

iPad 13 now shows "System" and "Other" separately. On a 512GB Pro (newly reset prior to beta testing so pretty empty, just around 20 user-installed apps), System Files is at 5.25GB and Other System Data is at 3.95GB.
Mine is 5.59GB System and 10.21GB others. I’d say no ideal for a 256GB iPad. But well.
 

rui no onna

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Mine is 5.59GB System and 10.21GB others. I’d say no ideal for a 256GB iPad. But well.
Lol, before reset, this iPad had ~50GB Other (iOS 12 doesn't differentiate) and around 400GB worth of apps and data so total ~450GB used.

Only using 29GB at the moment so that's 1/3 of used space occupied by System+Other. Wish Apple would provide a mechanism to clear cache and temp files. I'd rather have those deleted first before my personal data if I'm running low on free space.
 

AutomaticApple

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Now this is insane. Old girl (iPad 2) is getting slow and all that, but I recently wiped her clean. Started over as new device. I did NOT restore from any backup. I left it as s new device, thus all the old apps and anything else was not there. Then I logged into my apple acoounts and iCloud accounts. This gave me my calendar, notes, only one email account, etc; the basic stuff you would get from that. And then POOF...my other already looks like this crap! I follow the the videos Andy how-to’s all over the place on removing “other”, but even that doesn’t work. When I go check the files and locations these articles say check, there’s minimal data there. Nothing to discard. What the heck is up with this thing? Anything I’m missing you guys might now outside these articles?
That definitely isn’t an iPad 2.
 

galaxy7

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So I finally got around to wiping this thing and starting over after it tellingly me I was running out of space since Jan. I wiped it again, logged into my iTunes and iCloud items. This is the ‘other’ I ended up with literally immediately. This is before going to a single website. This is also NO email this time. No iCloud email account turned on nor any external email like Hotmail.
 

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rui no onna

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So I finally got around to wiping this thing and starting over after it tellingly me I was running out of space since Jan. I wiped it again, logged into my iTunes and iCloud items. This is the ‘other’ I ended up with literally immediately. This is before going to a single website. This is also NO email this time. No iCloud email account turned on nor any external email like Hotmail.
That actually looks normal. The operating system does use space. I've always thought 16GB entry level storage was too low even back in 2013.
 

A.R.E.A.M.

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I think what the op is seeing is normal. I recall last year someone asking this very same thing about the “other”.

Here’s my page for reference... 12.9 LTE SG 3rd gen

P.S. I also love the non descriptive thread title! :cool:




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galaxy7

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Thanks guys! I’ll just take it as normal performance. And I thought my title was very perfectly descriptive, LOL ;)
 
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EugW

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Sooooo...my update was Monday and you guys saw the screenshot. Here it is Thursday and my iPad is full and almost unuseable....of other.
Did your iPad download the latest update or something?

BTW, what is your iPad anyway? Cuz it's not an iPad 2. You still haven't posted the right model number.
 

Elitegate

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Now this is insane. Old girl (iPad 2) is getting slow and all that, but I recently wiped her clean. Started over as new device. I did NOT restore from any backup. I left it as s new device, thus all the old apps and anything else was not there. Then I logged into my apple acoounts and iCloud accounts. This gave me my calendar, notes, only one email account, etc; the basic stuff you would get from that. And then POOF...my other already looks like this crap! I follow the the videos Andy how-to’s all over the place on removing “other”, but even that doesn’t work. When I go check the files and locations these articles say check, there’s minimal data there. Nothing to discard. What the heck is up with this thing? Anything I’m missing you guys might now outside these articles?
Not sure if that's iOS 9 or not, but you wanna do a full restore with iTunes. Create a backup, open up iTunes on your computer and connect your iPad. Switch to the device tab and click "Restore". It should wipe the iPad completely. It loads the software file (IPSW) off Apple's servers. I recently restored my jailbroken iPhone 5 using only the device's settings (there's a restore option in Settings --> General) and even though it deleted all my data, the device was still jailbroken. After restoring it using the Recovery Mode in iTunes, jailbreak was gone. The safest way to restore your device is always with iTunes.
 

galaxy7

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Jan 18, 2014
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It’s some type of older mini; model number MF066LL/A. Has a lighting connector and currrntly on iOS 12.1. iCloud photos is on and reading list is probably on, but website data and all that is currently only at 17 mb.

Restoring from iTunes sounds like its worth a shot. No, I had not done that.
 

rui no onna

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On your iTunes restore and set up as new, make sure you don't enable iCloud Photos. With storage that small, that extra "Other" might be thumbnails that's being downloaded and just hasn't been categorized as Photos yet. Even with Optimized enabled, my on-device iCloud Photos was taking up 10% of the full library size.
 
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