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WTH!? That's insane! Oooooch! >_<

velocityg4 said:
Part of the price is because it is slot loading. Most laptops use tray loading drives thus not as many slot loading ones are built. Especially the really slim drives needed by Macbook Pros.

Powerbook medic does carry one for the low price of $700:eek:
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/xcart1/product.php?productid=17116
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WOW! That's still too much!

Mine's the older MBP 'classic' 17". There's space to use standard 12mm height HD's and optical drives.
Slimmer 9mm drives are only required for the MacBook, MacBookPro15 and possibly the new Unibody MBP17.
 
UltraNEO* said:
WOW! That's still too much!

Mine's the older MBP 'classic' 17". There's space to use standard 12mm height HD's and optical drives.
Slimmer 9mm drives are only required for the MacBook, MacBookPro15 and possibly the new Unibody MBP17.
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Well in that case there are a number of sellers on eBay selling the Matsushita/Panasonic UJ-225 blu ray burner. It is 12.7mm and supposedly fits the older 17" MBP and Powerbooks. The link is to one of the more reputable dealers. The sellers seem to be in the $400-450 range. This seller has good feedback and ships worldwide.

Their was some other seller shipping out of Taiwan as well.
 
UltraNEO* said:
So, I'm thinking about installing a Blu-ray in my MBP17. Searching the internet I came accross this drive, that's suitable and compatible but the prices is insane!! $999 for Blu-Ray drive, for data backup... I'm speechless!

http://store.fastmac.com/product_info.php?products_id=338

Has anyone brought one yet?
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Panasonic Bluray buner for 3rd of the price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Laptop-USB-Blu-...yZ158813QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Could you take it out of the case and install in internally inside your MBP 17"?
 
velocityg4 said:
Well in that case there are a number of sellers on eBay selling the Matsushita/Panasonic UJ-225 blu ray burner. It is 12.7mm and supposedly fits the older 17" MBP and Powerbooks. The link is to one of the more reputable dealers. The sellers seem to be in the $400-450 range. This seller has good feedback and ships worldwide.

Their was some other seller shipping out of Taiwan as well.
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That's a good price... I do wonder can i do better? I think 12.7mm drives ain't new technology any more. For now i'll bookmark him and I'll keep searching.

:)
 
I tried buying it but then I kind of didn't have a 17" anymore.

… I'm waiting for the SATA equivalent, the UJ-235A
 
alphaod said:
I tried buying it but then I kind of didn't have a 17" anymore.

… I'm waiting for the SATA equivalent, the UJ-235A
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Oh, did you sell yours?
Perhaps in time for a Unibody upgrade?
Me, I thought about it and looking at the amount of batteries i cart about the Unibody wouldn't be feasible. It'll worry me to think, that one day it'll become a paperweight. :mad:

Besides, I got this machine as a refurb, at a fantastic price too.
bargain!:)
 
UltraNEO* said:
Oh, did you sell yours?
Perhaps in time for a Unibody upgrade?
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No I sent my computer in for repair and then I got it back DOA, so I call Apple and they refunded my entire purchase to a gift card which I used to buy the unibody and the LED ACD

I'm trying to figure out if the new unibody machines will support 12.5mm optical drives. If it does, I will drop the hammer on the Bluray burner.
 
alphaod said:
No I sent my computer in for repair and then I got it back DOA, so I call Apple and they refunded my entire purchase to a gift card which I used to buy the unibody and the LED ACD

I'm trying to figure out if the new unibody machines will support 12.5mm optical drives. If it does, I will drop the hammer on the Bluray burner.
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Oh... That's so unfortunate. May I ask how long you had it for? And why was it sent back for repair?

This unit is a 2.6Ghz, Hi-Res LG panel with LED backlight.. that alone makes me soo happy! I'm not sire what to do with my older MBP15..

lol I still adore it though I don't need it. It's ♥:D
 
UltraNEO* said:
Oh... That's so unfortunate. May I ask how long you had it for? And why was it sent back for repair?

This unit is a 2.6Ghz, Hi-Res LG panel with LED backlight.. that alone makes me soo happy! I'm not sire what to do with my older MBP15..

lol I still adore it though I don't need it. It's ♥:D
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It was sent in for repair because the case warped. The computer was wobbly on my desk. I didn't drop it or anything. I actually asked a replacement first off, but the CSR insisted they would repair it. They told me if it wasn't repaired, they would replace my computer; of course they did repair it, but my computer didn't work anymore. And it was also the 17" 2.6 with HR. They tried to send me a 17" 2.5 with HR, but I told them flat out no, so they sent me to the store to get the gift card.
 
UltraNEO* said:
There have been some tests done on Blu-Ray discs, so provided you buy the correct brand and type they will offer pretty good protection. For a start, the media isn't made from the same materials as conventional DVD's, hence the higher price. Currently I'm burning through ten to twenty discs a week, the equivalent of 200~900Gb of data each week. Find a supplier of discs is tricky.. Everyone outside of Japan is charging way too much for the media. For me, using RD-ROM for my purpose is both cost efficient, secure and very cheap to transport.

For you.. it might be feasible cause not all your machines need to be write enabled correct? Besides, BD-ROM readers are fairly cheap those days.
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We were looking at more towards 300 - 600GB per day. The Blu-ray disks were just too expensive for that much data even though they did provide a large optical style storage format. These portable disks were a more cost effective solution for us when we sat down to figure the budget.

We were looking at $0.28 per GB for these portable HD while Blu-ray was about $0.11 per GB ordering the media from Japan. The real cost was trying to convert the computers to be Blu-ray compatible which isn't figured into the Blu-ray pricing as it varies depending on implementation.

380 workstations and 100 portables needed to be compatible with the data. That was a very large cost that they wouldn't sign off on so we had to look for an alternative.

The real cost savings came from reusing the media. The data is sent to long term archiving after 3 - 6 months so the older disks are recycled for new data. This lets us have a cost advantage in per GB usage after 3 cycles when the media becomes cheaper than the Blu-ray media on a per GB basis.

I think the failure rate is about the same as the network NAS used for the rest of the data. It is hard to believe that 1 gigabit isn't fast enough to handle all the data they send over the network. I wouldn't want to see how much additional data would be sent over the larger intranet if it wasn't handled between departments on these disks.
 
alphaod said:
It was sent in for repair because the case warped. The computer was wobbly on my desk. I didn't drop it or anything. I actually asked a replacement first off, but the CSR insisted they would repair it. They told me if it wasn't repaired, they would replace my computer; of course they did repair it, but my computer didn't work anymore. And it was also the 17" 2.6 with HR. They tried to send me a 17" 2.5 with HR, but I told them flat out no, so they sent me to the store to get the gift card.
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Hmm.. I'm curious, could my refurb be your old machine?
it arrive still rocky! :rolleyes: but working fine!
I paid a little over £1200 for it, cheap if you think about it...
 
8767092 said:
We were looking at more towards 300 - 600GB per day. The Blu-ray disks were just too expensive for that much data even though they did provide a large optical style storage format. These portable disks were a more cost effective solution for us when we sat down to figure the budget.

We were looking at $0.28 per GB for these portable HD while Blu-ray was about $0.11 per GB ordering the media from Japan. The real cost was trying to convert the computers to be Blu-ray compatible which isn't figured into the Blu-ray pricing as it varies depending on implementation.

380 workstations and 100 portables needed to be compatible with the data. That was a very large cost that they wouldn't sign off on so we had to look for an alternative.

The real cost savings came from reusing the media. The data is sent to long term archiving after 3 - 6 months so the older disks are recycled for new data. This lets us have a cost advantage in per GB usage after 3 cycles when the media becomes cheaper than the Blu-ray media on a per GB basis.

I think the failure rate is about the same as the network NAS used for the rest of the data. It is hard to believe that 1 gigabit isn't fast enough to handle all the data they send over the network. I wouldn't want to see how much additional data would be sent over the larger intranet if it wasn't handled between departments on these disks.
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Jesus, That's quiet a few workstations.
What sort of medium did you eventually end up with? Kinda curious.

Back in Japan, I didn't need Blu-Rays for work, their internet connection was just fast enough to send everything over night.

As for me, I don't go for reusable media much, unless i'm making backup of my array. Near enough all the Blu-ray's i burn are shipped to my company, any monies I spend gets reimbursed later. Sometimes, I do wonder cause I don't have a clue what they do with the discs one the project is finalized. Come to think of it, I ain't been the offices yet. lol
 
UltraNEO* said:
Jesus, That's quiet a few workstations.
What sort of medium did you eventually end up with? Kinda curious.

Back in Japan, I didn't need Blu-Rays for work, their internet connection was just fast enough to send everything over night.

As for me, I don't go for reusable media much, unless i'm making backup of my array. Near enough all the Blu-ray's i burn are shipped to my company, any monies I spend gets reimbursed later. Sometimes, I do wonder cause I don't have a clue what they do with the discs one the project is finalized. Come to think of it, I ain't been the offices yet. lol
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Do you still get media from japan? I figure any Taiyo Yuden or Verbs shipped from japan will be cheaper than the marked up stuff I can find here.
 
UltraNEO* said:
Jesus, That's quiet a few workstations.
What sort of medium did you eventually end up with? Kinda curious.
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That is actually a conservative count of desktops or notebooks because those are all I counted actively on the global network when checking for them.

We ended up using a hybrid solution because nothing would have an initial setup cost that was budget friendly enough for us to deploy globally.

The internal network at each complex is only 1 gigabit at 70% capacity so we didn't have enough spare capacity to transfer it internally that way on demand. The links between each are even more limited at about 170 megabit so we had to have something we could transfer between complexes via Fedex.

We ended up using a hybrid of allowing access to the network resources for departments that needed it immediately, portable hard drives (just standard 250GB or 500GB Western Digital USB drives) for lower priority departments, and we just placed 2 1TB drives into each imaging server to store the data as a secondary backup in case the portable hard drives fail or break before the data is pushed over the network to the NAS at night.

The solution will save money in the longer term because the data storage can be reused as many times as we need it and the hardware can be repurposed once the network is upgraded to 10+ gigabit in 2011.
 
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