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MacsRgr8 said:
I thought a Woodcrest in Single CPU (Cual Core) is similar to the Conroe in performance...

So, IMHO, a Woodcrest (Xeon...ugghh ugly name, that), is only usefull if you are going to use Dual Dual Cores (like the Quad G5).

Or am I missing something here...

No pretty much spot on. The 1333 MHz FSB gives about a 5% boost in Xeons favour.
 
I think they should add a "buy a new mac" button on the crash dialogue that takes you to the online apple store. Maybe even a splash page that says "Old mac crashing too much? Try one of these new babies!"
 
dizastor said:
I think they should add a "buy a new mac" button on the crash dialogue that takes you to the online apple store. Maybe even a splash page that says "Old mac crashing too much? Try one of these new babies!"
I'm glad your not in Apples marketing department. :p
 
dizastor said:
I think they should add a "buy a new mac" button on the crash dialogue that takes you to the online apple store. Maybe even a splash page that says "Old mac crashing too much? Try one of these new babies!"

That'll be a nice Windows BSOD!! :cool:

:D
 
shelterpaw said:
I'm glad your not in Apples marketing department. :p

Well, its a better idea than the "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" video on the homepage :p

I hope they really wow us with the processors they use too.

2.4GHz Conroe on the low-end
2.67GHz Conroe on the mid-range
Dual 3GHz Woodcrests on the high-end

*Drools*
 
brepublican said:
:confused: I dont understand why people keep insisting on virtually outdated technolgies.

The new standard is Blu Ray. Get with the program :)

I think Blu Ray is going to flop.

and to the other guy, I think it's perfectly legitimate to announce a new MBP enclosure with a DL superdrive at the WWDC. I mean it's the pro model laptop. Developers would definitely be using it. And they can burn things faster! :D

ohhhh pleaseohpleaseohplease.
 
i want to see a CD version of leopard!! lol :p :D
is that so much to ask??
 
I don't really like the idea of the macpro line-up having different chips.

I know in order to produce a quad lineup.. they'll have to, and it makes little difference to the end user.... but the idea of using "lesser" chips in the low end model bugs me.
 

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Stridder44 said:
Core 2 Duos in the MacBook Pros!!! Come on you know you want to damnit....


Also what's this Im hearing about 3-D effects in Leopard?
Thats what I want. Core Duo 2 in MBP.
If I have to wait until the Paris thingamabob.....
I'll hold my breath till I turn blue!

And 3-D effects would be wicked awesome.
 
If anything, multiple desktops would act just like Fast User Switching. I wish Macosxrumors would get their site back online.

peharri said:
Apple's never shown any signs of being keen on Virtual Desktops so I'm not sure where that's coming from, especially as the "Hide/show" feature of NEXTSTEP that ended up in OS X is, arguably, slightly more useful anyway.

If they do have it, I hope it's like the Amiga's screens, with desktops opening and closing automatically rather than being permanently open. They need to be self-managing, and designed to make computing easier to understand. Traditional "multiple desktops" are a powerful feature, but I don't think they aid understandability.
 
shelterpaw said:
I doubt there will be a silver bullet feature that will blow away vista, but overall improvements will take OS X to the next level.

but what is there to get excited about? spotlight (which is rarely used) is faster...wooo... running windows easier...great, not really an upgrade to the mac os, though...

i'm going to assume we're gonna get these things, but there will almost certainly be some big features that we haven't thought of yet.
 
birch25 said:
but what is there to get excited about? spotlight (which is rarely used) is faster...wooo... running windows easier...great, not really an upgrade to the mac os, though...

i'm going to assume we're gonna get these things, but there will almost certainly be some big features that we haven't thought of yet.

I use spotlight a lot. I wish had more "power" (or pro?) features, tho. I also wish it were faster on my G4.
 
supafly1703 said:
Revamped finder, pretty pleaaaaase...

There better be some improvements in the Finder and in Spotlight. That should go without saying.
 
pretty similar to the rumors on page 2 (obtained by macrumors directly, but "unverified") except that those rumors also include displays and a core 2 duo in something other than the mac pro.

I'm going to split the difference and say
- leopard
- mac pro
- xserve
- displays

Same as I've been saying for a while now! :p

I think I'm most excited about leopard as I won't be in the market for any hardware for a while now.
 
mobile sync for the masses

Here is my guess... I recently setup mac os x mobile sync for my laptop/desktop combination and it is sheer genius.

It basically gives you the same desktop on all your machines and synchronizes your laptop home directory w/ a set up scripts that run on login/logout and background

The problem w/ the setup is it is really meant for corporate farms as you need to set a slew of things up working properly (ldap, kerberos) to do properly. My guess is they are going to revamp the scripts and have an easy setup so people can "synchronize" on the fly btwn different machines so all accounts look exactly the same (but not using afs). This will be a mobile user for desktop and laptop configurations.. it'll waste some space but hard drives are cheap and everyone is "synced"

this will be the new and improved "sync" ... btw if this isn't what they are going to do i still recommend taking a look at mac os x's mobile user configurations as it really is brilliant (as it also has the side effect of auto-backing up your laptop to a different machine))
 
Enough about all that... all the juicy stuff is in the leopard release. While I doubt we will jump to OS 11 in january, this underpinnings thing sounds interesting.

The thing that gets me :eek: is the 3d capabilities. A 3d dock? A 3d expose? A 3d filesystem viewer? or just a simple 3d affect used when, i dunno turning on?

I really wanna know!!!

I also wanna know what these half dozen or more main features are, In .4 it was dashboard that apple showed off, i just can't think of anything that would be so... cool.

I also wonder what these business features are... Hopefully a new iWork included in the system, a mistake Microsoft made early on.
 
Never Was Any Logic To Justify Woodcrest In Any But The Quad Mac Pro

PeteyKohut said:
No Woodcrest arcoss the board in the Mac Pros? BOO HOO!!! I hope the new monitor rumor is true. I am eyeing up a nice 23" monitor to go along with my new (Woodcrest based?) Mac Pro.
There was never any logic to using Woodcrest across the board - only for the Quad. Conroe is just as fast and cheaper for dual core models. :)
cr2sh said:
I don't really like the idea of the macpro line-up having different chips.

I know in order to produce a quad lineup.. they'll have to, and it makes little difference to the end user.... but the idea of using "lesser" chips in the low end model bugs me.
Conroe are not "lesser" than Woodcrest. Where did you get that idea? Using one Woodcrest for two core Macs would be a higher manufacturing expense which would translate into more expensive dual core Mac Pros.
 
Apple wouldn't give the iMac's faster chips than the MacBook Pro's again, would they?

My 1.25 PowerBook is almost three years old. The old "Al" enclosure is getting a bit long-lived. It is tried and true, though.
 
What about the MacBook?

You know, all I personally want is to see Apple fitting a Merom inside a MacBook (non-pro, yes)... I mean, why shouldn't they do that?

Sure, back in the PowerPC days, the differentiation made by Apple between their consumer and professional lines was based both on features AND processors... In a way, it made some sense, as the supply of PowerPC chips was sometimes constrained... Since the G3, G4 and G5 families were alternately produced by IBM and Moto-Freescale, that was less of a problem, as the consumer line would never cannibalize supply for the professional line and vice-versa. I know I'm speculating here, but it sure makes some sense. And, of course, they avoided not only cannibalization on the component supply front, but also on the sales front... :rolleyes:

Anyway... This worked fine back when Apple was, platform-wise, isolated from the rest of the other computer manufacturers. Now they can't afford to lose customers to other brands (and as much as OS X is an attractive proposition, most potential switchers won't take the plunge if they feel they are REALLY being ripped-off), and let's face it: if the Core 2 Duo processors will, as it appears, cost the same as their Core Duo counterparts did when they were launched, why shouldn't Apple slap them across the board? They could always deplete their stock of Core Duo processors on their Mac mini line, while lowering them to their original $499 and $599 pricetags...

Just my €0,02... It's true, I'll have to get my hands on a MacBook until the end of September, so this is mostly wishful thinking :eek: . Anyway, am I too off-base? (I'm guessing not...).
 
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