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WWDC Prediction - Finder with Fileflow using QuickView

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Just a mockup image and guesswork for fun...
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Link to full size image:
http://homepage.mac.com/grahambower/ipod_predictions.html

Top Secret Finder Features Revealed:
  • Fileflow – a version of iTune’s CoverFlow feature, taking advantage of Leopard’s new “QuickView” functionality to provide an intuitive way of browsing through the contents of a folder.
  • QuickView pane – similar to the cover art pane in iTunes, can appear bottom-left to provide a QuickView of document’s content (offering an alternative to Fileflow function)
  • Tabbed Finder – Apple will announce support for Tabs in all Apple’s multi-window applications, including Finder, with the objective of reducing desktop clutter. Apple will encourage all 3rd party developers to adopt tabs as well, providing support within Cocoa
  • Consistent UI look & feel – Finder adopts iTunes style – grey-blue colour scheme is consistent across all Apple applications, and ties into look of iPhone UI.
  • iLife 10.5 and iWork 10.5 – announced alongside Leopard, taking advantage of new OS X technologies such as Core Animation
 
I like the iTunes 7-type scrollbar (part of "Illuminous" GUI). The FileFlow is the dealbreaker of the new Finder. It would totally awsome if they made a Finder like that in Leopard.
 
dartzorichalcos said:
I like the iTunes 7-type scrollbar (part of "Illuminous" GUI). The FileFlow is the dealbreaker of the new Finder. It would totally awsome if they made a Finder like that in Leopard.
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I'm gonna have to disagree. I think a CoverFlow type of view for the Finder would be an unproductive element. There's going to be QuickView.. you already have Spotlight. What else do you really need to find/preview files.
 
crees! said:
I'm gonna have to disagree. I think a CoverFlow type of view for the Finder would be an unproductive element. There's going to be QuickView.. you already have Spotlight. What else do you really need to find/preview files.
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CoverFlow in the Finder would certainly be an unproductive element for users who only have long text-based word documents, but would be very handy for folders filled with image-heavy files such as photos, Keynote presentations, movies, etc.

I would envisage that you could turn on and off FileFlow within the Finder from any view (column, list etc). Users that don't want it, never need to see it, just like in iTunes,
 
Looks pretty :D

Would only be good if you had a folder of PDFs/Photos

As folders, and text files woud all have a generic look, but it would make a nice feature.
 
Seems like an awful lot of real estate to browse a folder. I usually have 3 or 4 Finder windows open, so this would be clumsy for me.
 
daveL said:
Seems like an awful lot of real estate to browse a folder. I usually have 3 or 4 Finder windows open, so this would be clumsy for me.
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It could be just an option. Not the default view.

But I agree, not very useful in most of the cases.
 
This concept has been bouncing around a lot of places. I don't think it's a bad idea for images at all. Yes, we have preview, yes, we have iPhoto, but Finder still sucks at dealing with images. I imagine they could do it pretty well.

Hate the iTunes scrollbars.

Edit: What I appreciate about the 'quickpane' bit is that I currently am always toggling between list and column view, because they each have different features. At least with a permanent preview area, I could see nice big previews while still in list view.
 
crees! said:
I'm gonna have to disagree. I think a CoverFlow type of view for the Finder would be an unproductive element. There's going to be QuickView.. you already have Spotlight. What else do you really need to find/preview files.
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I think it is fine to have this option, and I think that, as a prediction, it is spot on.
 
MacDonaldsd said:
As folders, and text files woud all have a generic look, but it would make a nice feature.
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Which is where the new QuickLook feature comes in. QuickLook is more than just previewing the document with a keystroke, it allows developers to feed live previews of the document's contents into its icon.

My only concern is the implementation. iTunes' Cover Flow implementation is terrible at best; they turned the standalone CoverFlow's disk caching feature toward RAM, and so it gobbles up twice as much RAM, twice as quickly. I'd imagine/hope with QuickLook this won't be a problem.

Personally all I really care to see from the Finder is speed and network integration. But I'd also like a toolbar item to input/view the path, and a Finder that fixes the .DS_Store implementation. That's been, what, five or six years now?
 
There's already a view path option if you change the window buttons in finder, or optionally just ?click the folder name at the top of the window. I know you wanted more than that Lixivial, but that is what they're offering at the moment.

I was wondering about the viewing photos problem, maybe they're going to embed preview into the finder?

Can't wait till tomorow...
 
I don't know about anyone else but I absolutely despise the look of iTunes 7. It was better when it had the aqua look. So that scrollbar with the sort of aqua finder window is stupid. The nice aqua interface was one of the reasons I switched to Mac. If they use the "iTunes 7 look" in the rest of the OS I might have to reinstall Tiger.
I care more about functionality than appearance but I don't want my OS to look queer.


Also the coverflow would probably use too much RAM.
 
What's the point of file flow? It looks pretty, but it just takes up a lot of space and doesn't serve any productive purpose--we can already see a preview of what the file looks like with the quickview (now THIS is very useful, though in those mockups / with the exact iTunes look isn't good enough--I can't think of a better place for it to be, but the iTunes layout isn't good for the Finder IMO).
 
Burgess07 said:
I don't know about anyone else but I absolutely despise the look of iTunes 7. It was better when it had the aqua look. So that scrollbar with the sort of aqua finder window is stupid. The nice aqua interface was one of the reasons I switched to Mac. If they use the "iTunes 7 look" in the rest of the OS I might have to reinstall Tiger.
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Don't worry, I am sure the developer of UNO will come out with a Leopard version if we get a system-wide iTunes look. I'll definitely be using it.
 
Looks like a fun feature that could win over switchers. People like candy, what can I say?
 
PupnTaco said:
Looks like a fun feature that could win over switchers. People like candy, what can I say?
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The first impression would be great. But as with Vista, eye candy is not all. Simplicity and ease of use is what people want the most. But yes, it would still be a cool future.

Do you think Leopard would improve coverflow? Right now in my MB coverflow in iTunes is sluggish and it is a pain to use it.
 
better fix the GMA 950 bar issue in iTunes...because if I'm missing out because of these damned intergrated graphics cards, I'm going to....well honestly its push me to buy an iMac, MacBook Pro or Mac Pro.

Also I'd love tabbed Finder!
 
I'd actually be ecstatic if Leopard had something simple like Windows' Filmstrip. Tiger's Preview blows.
 
I think this is a great idea. I agree that Windows does have a nice Picture Viewer with the Windows Photo Viewer, and it is sorely missed in OS X.
I have no reason to believe this will happen, but good idea nonetheless.
 
GimmeSlack12 said:
I think this is a great idea. I agree that Windows does have a nice Picture Viewer with the Windows Photo Viewer, and it is sorely missed in OS X.
I have no reason to believe this will happen, but good idea nonetheless.
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i think it turned out to be true if im reading everything right!!:D youre owed royalties
 
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