WWDC Software Notes: Safari 5, Xcode 4, iTunes 9.2

[Stella]

iOS is Apple's new focus and replacement for OSX. I believe OSX 10.7 will be the last version of OSX as iOS will morph to live on any size system or device. Time will tell but I believe this to be true. We'll see what happens when AppleTV is released - maybe real Apple televisions will be announced with AppleTV devices.

I very much doubt iOS will replace OSX. This would mean walled gardened Apple computers.. which would be the kiss of death. If SJ emails is to be believed, he already said Apple have no plans to lockdown and restrict Mac software.

Personally, I think iOS and mobile devices have taken up too much of Apple's resources and it won't be until next year's WWDC that we'll see 10.7. iLife has obviously suffered - Apple have been too busy with adding iLife software to iPhones and Pads.

If Apple have indeed given up on OSX - then its a sad day. I feel sorry for all those new switchers.

 

[novodigo]

I don't see a reload button on my safari 5.0. Also Each pic you posted has a reload button??? Plus you can just move the buttons at will so how is that new if its positioned differently? I don't have a re-load button at all can't even add it

Have you installed the extension? If yes, just go to preferences, Advanced, Show Develop menu . After this Go to the Develop menu and enable the extensions.

Rigth click at the toolbar and just drag the button where do you want.

 

[ksgant]

Okay, call me paranoid or whatever...but how do I know that if I install that little Gmail checker extension and put in my account and password that it's not just going to take that info an steal my account? I mean, this plug-in is just out there in the wild, right? No vetting process?

Just wondering.

 

[ShiftyPig]

I very much doubt iOS will replace OSX. This would mean walled gardened Apple computers.. which would be the kiss of death. If SJ emails is to be believed, he already said Apple have no plans to lockdown and restrict Mac software.

Personally, I think iOS and mobile devices have taken up too much of Apple's resources and it won't be until next year's WWDC that we'll see 10.7. iLife has obviously suffered - Apple have been too busy with adding iLife software to iPhones and Pads.

If Apple have indeed given up on OSX - then its a sad day. I feel sorry for all those new switchers.

In Apple's defense, they are making insane dollars on the iPhone platform in addition to the fact that it's still (relatively) early in its life cycle. It certainly doesn't help that Apple has plowed years into OSX only to still play a very small second fiddle to MS. It's probably more fun to innovate and be the big dog in the mobile market.

 

[GorillaPaws]

In Apple's defense, they are making insane dollars on the iPhone platform in addition to the fact that it's still (relatively) early in its life cycle. It certainly doesn't help that Apple has plowed years into OSX only to still play a very small second fiddle to MS. It's probably more fun to innovate and be the big dog in the mobile market.

Apple earns like 35% of all of the profit generated in the PC market with just 7% marketshare (source). I realize that the future of the consumer market will eventually migrate to being iPadish, but there will still be a healthy market for people who need to do serious computing. Apple has catered to this professional market in the past, let's hope they continue to see it as an important part of their future growth.

 

[John.B]

Okay, call me paranoid or whatever...but how do I know that if I install that little Gmail checker extension and put in my account and password that it's not just going to take that info an steal my account? I mean, this plug-in is just out there in the wild, right? No vetting process?

Just wondering.

This is a good question, and goes to the heart of why signed extentions are important as well as knowing your source; in this case the source code for the GMail checker extension is at github, but I'm sure that won't always be the case. And not everyone can read code, or even javascript.

One thing that is nice about the Mozilla add-ons site for Firefox is that it's an open forum where people can post reviews of their experience with specific FF add-ons; so you get some idea of the experience people are having with the actual add-on you are downloading (from mozilla.org).

Safari extensions are going to need something similar.

 

[LillDrutten]

Revision tools

I hope they have rewrote everything that has to do with integration of SVN and added support for git and repo.

 

[stagi]

Sweet, looks like there is going to be some great little add ons for safari! Can't wait for that panic add on

 

[BollywooD]

Here my first Extension

SafariRestore to automatically restore your previous browsing session.

 

[twilson]

It's ridiculous that after 5 major versions of Safari the popup blocker is either off or on; no way to manage sites.

Isn't that what extensions is all about, somebody can write one now that includes this functionality

 

[Cloudane]

Wake me up when Google Bookmarks (a proper menu like in the toolbar for Firefox) finally makes it to Safari. Been waiting for it for years.

But then even Chrome doesn't have it, so I'm not holding my breath...

 

[knightlie]

Praise be to non-news. So nice to spend my valuable time reading about nothing.
I will admit that Safari is damned fast and accurate, but it's got a ways to go before I use it as my everyday browser.
Not time yet... Maybe in a year when the tools I use all the time are available. Oh, and mime types. Need that.

No-one is going to stop reporting major news items become some guy on the internet doesn't care about them. If you're that uninterested by this story, why did you a) read it and b) comment on it? Jeez...

 

[SeaFox]

Someone fill me in here. People always go on and on about how Firefox is so great because of all the plugins.

Are these Safari 'extensions' the same thing? Or are they not quite the same?

Just wondering if that's something FF users will still be bragging about or if this will shut them up.

They look like the same thing. Of course, until Safari has as many plugins as Firefox we wont have reason to shut up.

You know, kinda like how even though there are multiple smartphone platforms with "Application Stores" iPhone users don't shut up about their App Store because of how many more apps are available.

Mac Fanboi Arguements: A Double-Edged Sword

 

[this is funah]

I still find Firefox better...not sure it is faster but user interface is better...for instance if I want to quit FF I am asked if i want to save my opened tabs...Safari does not do that.
What do you guys think? FF 3.6.3 or S.5?

i don't know why, but firefox is unbelievably slow nowadays... it takes about 45 seconds to launch on my core 2 duo macbook, and it crashes and stalls all the time.

 

[Ampidire]

i don't know why, but firefox is unbelievably slow nowadays... it takes about 45 seconds to launch on my core 2 duo macbook, and it crashes and stalls all the time.

I can safely say something is seriously wrong with your Firefox install, there is no reason it should be like that.

Have you loaded it up with extensions? Are you fully updated? Have to deleted previous preference files in the chance they might have become corrupted?

 

[Lord Vader]

Safari 5 is very slow on my iMac.

 

[mathfantasia]

heh ... a repost of sorts

Posted this in another thread but sharing it here too ... my safari extension ... displays date, time, and minutes of the current browser window being open

http://www.mmaatthh.com/safari

 

[Jeremy1026]

I still find Firefox better...not sure it is faster but user interface is better...for instance if I want to quit FF I am asked if i want to save my opened tabs...Safari does not do that.
What do you guys think? FF 3.6.3 or S.5?

Safari doesn't ask because it saves them for you.

History -> Reopen all Windows from Last Session.

 

[Pndrgnsvc]

K'board shortcuts & Extensions

I have no problem with extensions, and perhaps I'll use them someday.

But I do find it bizarre that Apple (especially) would create a Safari/Reload extension when there is already keyboard shortcut (Command+R) to do just that.

I hope we are not inundated with a plethora of extensions that are nothing more than keyboard shortcuts.

 

[dsburdette]

Hmm... I may be being a bit too cynical here but why would you want a reload button? There's one at the right-hand side of the address bar.

Exactly. Is there some secret contained in this reload button or is the one already in the address bar not sufficient enough? Also CMD+R reloads too. Do I really need a third button?

 

[mixel]

Exactly. Is there some secret contained in this reload button or is the one already in the address bar not sufficient enough? Also CMD+R reloads too. Do I really need a third button?

The reload button is just for the people who got really used to the left hand side button pre-Safari4 and didn't want to muscle-memorise a new right hand button location (or just prefer it on the left). It makes quite a bit of sense on bigger windows, as generally you're mousing around the top/left anyway.

I think it's good there's choice, it's quite un-apple-like. Looks like there's going to be loads of useful extensions quite quickly.. And a lot of silly ones. I hate custom search bars with a passion. Grrgh.

 

[kas23]

SafariRestore to automatically restore your previous browsing session.

I'm sure people appreciate your efforts, but...

Safari doesn't ask because it saves them for you.

History -> Reopen all Windows from Last Session.

Anyways, a strange things happened last night. I installed the AdBlock extension and it was working very well. I closed Safari and a few hours later, began surfing the web again. And the Adblock extension was totally gone. Like it had uninstalled itself. Is this normal behavior or a bug or what?

 

[hexor]

That's my whole point, they didn't give WWDC attendees anything, they simply locked it away from people who should have legitimately gotten it, which makes it seem like the WWDC attendees are getting something special. WWDC attendees should've actually gotten something special, like the ability to pre-order their iPhone 4's and have them delivered a week early or something like that.

They've done this in the past (restricted new software to attendees only). They need to get someone in the developer group that actually knows how to design a usable GUI. I HATE how Xcode changes menus/toolbar buttons depending on if you chose to debug your project last or ran it without breakpoints. So you end up having to spend more time having to find the correct menu item/button.

 

[mcmlxix]

Ah, it looks like Tiger is no longer supported [by Safari 5]. I suppose that was inevitable, but my old iBook is still a useful machine. I suppose it's less useful now.

As for the three highlighted new features, more power the those who want them, but I'll be removing them from my toolbar. Besides adding to clutter:

Gmail Checker: I usually check my mail on my iDevice. With many accounts across different vendors, it's faster. I also don't have to stay logged into Google, which is an increasing privacy concern of mine. To this point, I plan on giving Bing a serious tryout. I'm not saying that I'll absolutely stick with it, but I'm glad it's an option now.

Reload Button: I'm quite happy with CMD+R. Thanks anyway.

Amazon Search Bar: Google (and now Bing) search bar have been sufficient for my needs.

 

[likemyorbs]

Safari 5 is very slow on my iMac.

is it an iMac G3?