It is frustrating that the Xbox app doesn't let you stretch video when playing a game.
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Xbox Cloud Gaming Coming to iOS in Spring 2021
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Wow.. I call me naive.. I guess I never saw it like that. When devs make say a AAA game title.. They do not use DirectX. What does Apple use? Is it better than DirectX ? I really want a new Mac.. but waiting for the M2..M3 lol.
Yea two points. You have gigabit internet. Much, much of the country doesn't even have access to a tenth of that speed. My dream is to go buy a house maybe an hour outside the city. Internet is stopping me from doing that. Second I know a lot of my friends, including myself, who want to own our games and play them anytime we want. With streaming apps you rent the game and once the publisher for whatever reason or another decides to not offer the game anymore you lose access to it. Streaming gaming apps serve a purpose and I definitely see the value in it, but there is a lot of value in owning your games and console.
I don't know if there are really any AAA games on the Mac. The problem is graphics cards. Apple machines, to say the least, are not known for their upgradeability. You can't just buy a new shiny graphics card and stick it in a Mac machine since most all Macs sold nowadays are not modular and can't be upgraded. The specs you buy the machine with are the specs you will be stuck with for the life of the machine. I love my iMac and couldn't imagine having to use a PC at home. But when I think of gaming, I never think of Macs.
Depends on the platform. Xbox/Windows will be (usually) D3D. Sony is something like Vulkan from my understanding. Apple hardware is Metal. Android/Linux is Vulkan.
Our opinions differ. I still have my OG XBOX, 360E, PS2, PS3, and fat XBOX One... all working and all boxed up. I have catalogs full of game discs. I've only ever gone back to play 2 games. NFS Underground 2 on the OG XBOX and the best Forza game ever made, Forza Motorsports 4, on the 360. Otherwise, the value there for me is nostalgia, but beyond that it kinda just contributes to my packrat problem. Different strokes for different folks amirite.
Consoles drop every 5-7 years on average. 2025-2027? I don't think we're getting more consoles. I think the tech and the infrastructure will be beyond that by then. Again, our opinions differ.
I have a naive question. How is Microsoft (and Amazon, since they have a similar solution) stopping an iPad/iPhone screen from locking while using the web browser? I’m working on a totally unrelated app, but Apple will not accept it in the App Store (thanks for stifling creativity, Apple), so I’ve started to look into browser based solutions. The screen locking is what’s killing it.
Yea I would love for that to be the case. But just based on bureaucracy and local zoning laws and all that go into construction there is no way by even 2027 the internet infrastructure problem will be any better than it is now. Of course big cities will get upgraded internet, but no way much of the rural country will ever see any significant internet upgrades any time soon. Only chance is maybe Starlink, but that is a ways out and is a wireless internet so there will always be latency issues. Then you have internet caps. Those are never going away unless the government steps in. Companies love caps and every year with more streaming services it is easy to go over your monthly cap in a week or less. Cloud gaming would just add to the problem and then monthly internet access would be so expensive to pay for all the overages. I hope consoles never go away and I don't really see how they could unless companies like Microsoft and Sony are willing to lose out on much of their user base.
Nah, from the beginning, I was talking about the mac platform. I already know the problem with the walled garden of iOS, although Netflix and Amazon have apps for iOS. But I was refering only to mac (I plan to use more my mac now that I jumped to an M1 device)
I have the GeForce Now app. It works through an app in the mac. It is not mandatory to put your app on the Mac App Store, on the Mac platform there are many apps outside the Mac App Store, notarized and secure.
I just have a gut feeling Apple are going to put in some stumbling blocks to stop this from becoming as good as it should be.
Hope I'm wrong, but if the whole service works via the browser, then it makes zero sense to stop it working easier for users via a proper app.
Hope I'm wrong, but if the whole service works via the browser, then it makes zero sense to stop it working easier for users via a proper app.
I agree! And Microsoft should let Sony host its Playstation store on Xboxes!
100% sure, it would not be difficult at all to make Safari or the code bad macs use for web browsing not run that well on specifically chosen content, or type of content.
I cannot believe Apple would do that, but of course they could mess with it if they really wanted to.
Esp on M1 machines, where they can make the hardware and software run as well or as bad as they desire.
Can't play PS games on Xbox?
Even for rotating games in the library? Seems like a lot of work for 1 platform.
It probably works as well as Luna.
That is how xCloud works, you don't download the games you stream them.
To people who compare consoles to iMacs.
Don't you realize it's a totally different business model.
You make a console and sell it as a loss, and make your money on software sales.
Or You charge a lot for a computer and make your profit there instead, then you want more for software sales via your app store.
Apple has chosen the second option.
If Apple sold their hardware products at a loss I'b be 100% happy for them to lock down software sales so that's how they would then make their money back.
Comparing a console to an Apple product is just being silly.
And I'm sure people who do this, know it's a silly comparison.
Don't you realize it's a totally different business model.
You make a console and sell it as a loss, and make your money on software sales.
Or You charge a lot for a computer and make your profit there instead, then you want more for software sales via your app store.
Apple has chosen the second option.
If Apple sold their hardware products at a loss I'b be 100% happy for them to lock down software sales so that's how they would then make their money back.
Comparing a console to an Apple product is just being silly.
And I'm sure people who do this, know it's a silly comparison.
To those saying Apple is wrong, I disagree, if you’re going to create a safe and secure closed sandbox ecosystem you have to ensure it’s integrity and not let people find loopholes around your rules. If Xbox (and others) were serious about the future of cloud gaming then they would find a way of creating a SKU’s of each game in their respective libraries and taking the time to have them all reviewed (each game only needs to be reviewed once) and then it’s there, on their service, with apples approval, forever. Each of these companies have the resources to make it happen but they’re playing a power-control game with each other and using the consumer to take sides in the process.
apple knows what it’s doing and what it’s not willing to do in its ecosystem and has that right. If companies don’t want to play by the rules then there’s no place for them here. I feel 0 sympathy for a company as big as Microsoft to not engage in the process of having their library certified and approved by apple simply because it might be a big endeavour for them. It speaks more of their lack of confidence in the longevity of their own service than anythinf
apple knows what it’s doing and what it’s not willing to do in its ecosystem and has that right. If companies don’t want to play by the rules then there’s no place for them here. I feel 0 sympathy for a company as big as Microsoft to not engage in the process of having their library certified and approved by apple simply because it might be a big endeavour for them. It speaks more of their lack of confidence in the longevity of their own service than anythinf
Which is why we are getting the browser version on Apple devices. I am not sure what you are arguing against.