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'XcodeGhost' Malware Attack in 2015 Impacted 128 Million iOS Users, According to Trial Documents
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macOS does have malware. Look, nothing is 100%. If you think something is 100%, you are mistaken. The ONLY way the App Store can be 100% is if App Review process takes months, you need to submit your source code and have Apple Developers look at your code. Developers won't do this."But... but... since the App Store is guarded by Apple, we're all the more safer. If we allow 3rd party app stores or people to download and install apps through the browser like with macOS, users will be exposed to malware" said the people who are against 3rd party app stores and downloading/installing apps through a browser.
And somehow the idea that they won't be forced to and don't have to use the 3rd party app store is lost on them
We still have police, but crime still exists. We do not live in a 100% crime free society.
Getting rid of the single App Store will help malware how?
Or make App Review process take months. Have Apple actually look at your source code and test your app for months.
Think you're safe on IOS??
THINK AGAIN.
and since macOS is becoming more and more like IOS.
It's why I'm only investing in an ARM Mini
APPLE's Mac Future looks really risky.
THINK AGAIN.
and since macOS is becoming more and more like IOS.
It's why I'm only investing in an ARM Mini
APPLE's Mac Future looks really risky.
Cause apple was too cheap to setup a server mirror in China for the devs to download the iOS SDK from.
Gatekeeper/File Quarantine has been in macOS/OS X since Leopard and basically only deals with checking if the program is allowed to run the first time. You can even override it with a right click.
It doesn't protect privacy at all and doesn't stop the application from doing anything if it is malware. It can only stop it from running if Apple manually puts it on a blacklist.
The App Store allows Apple to do checking before it is released and more importantly they can kick the developer out of the App Store for all eternity which is a such a large thread that it keeps a lot of developer from misusing the trust they have been given.
It’s probably worth mentioning here that the source of the malware wasn‘t iOS, it was the less restrictive MacOS. This really isn’t an argument against the walled iOS garden at all, much the contrary.
That said, it’s these kinds of lapses in their review process that leave them open to criticism.
That said, it’s these kinds of lapses in their review process that leave them open to criticism.
I know this all too well. They approve these total scam apps sometimes but act super picky with my legitimate ones. My conclusion is there's a wide range of reviewers you can get, and the rules aren't very consistent. Many are also unwritten.Devs are not free to use the platform. They have to pay annually to have the opportunity to be listed. Not all apps get listed.
I'm a dev. Nobody's forcing me to be an iOS dev. I was one for years then decided it wasn't worth the headaches. New employer pays me more anyway. As a user, I've always favored iPhone over Android, but that's subject to change. The better Apple treats its devs, users, and community, the better they will treat Apple. Laws don't need to interfere.
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You do realize this is about a problem that occurred 6 years ago. Security has been tightened up a lot since then. I mean A LOT! You have also read about the Qualcomm vulnerability on most phones, then there are android vulnerabilities. Sure iOS/macOS are not perfect, but moving in the right direction and faster than those other guys
That brings up a good point. Apps should come with indemnification from the developer. If they ligh cheat and steal, they have to refund the money. And/or go to jail!
Probably means Android (or the Samsung, Sony, etc makeovers if we want to count them as separate stores) or the side loading which is met with banners and warnings when installed that way, the one that epic tried and seemed to not work so well it is my understanding.
On that front the devs are definitely free TO NOT put their software on the AppStore meaning no iOS at all if they so desire... but I would rather they don’t go that way as all of this tends to ripple sideways and MacOS is already suffering from lack of support on some apps, namely, Metal GPU support as NVidia has taken over the GPGPU horsepower with their CUDA APIs (and the cost/benefit to implement both is sometimes hard to justify economically) and also non-pro consumer wallet friendly but powerful enough GPU options with hardware RayTracing (crossing fingers for “Apple GPU” to start handling this).
Let them find a middle ground, I wouldn’t want to lose Epic as a innovator in general... they did come out with impressive iOS stuff at the time, added full blown iOS pathway to unreal engine and they do have quite the mind blowing rendering tech in general (which is not quite there 100% on MacOS either).
And if this trial only results in Apple being held accountable for deliberately reducing consumer options, with regard to HTML 5 standards, we win. Federal or international requirements for full support of PWA is the path I’d like to see going forward.
Funny is that the render engine which Tim Sweeney's emails revealed that it relied on Metal API also how advanced the API was. Also you can forget NVidia ever getting anything native on Mac OS. NVidia screwed over Apple (along with the majority of laptop manufacturers) so Apple is not looking to partner with them ever again. There is a reason why most of NVidia's former partners will never go back and it's the way they do business.
Agreed on this. Can only hope for devs not quite there to find compelling and justifiable economical reasons to jump on the bandwagon... Blender comes to mind as one struggling but at least exploring it.
When affinity suite came out with its Metal support it was bonkers fast compared to photoshop, they just not long ago added gpu support for Windows too nevertheless with v1.9 (don’t know which APIs though).
Maybe the ongoing two years transition will leave a fully solid foundation for productivity apps, those missing pieces on renderviz/computing/high-demand and gaming advancements.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m 99.9% happy I jumped to mostly mac and dread the very rare times I have to launch parallels to do anything windows but it would be great to have the option, for example, to have most of the games to be compatible (and I don’t even play, thinking in general as a platform). A lot of this is dev driven and these lawsuits fights can be a deterrent... I think.
Yes, we still have police and crime still exists. But at the same time, the police aren't telling us that their ability to police and protect us are "held to the highest standards"
What does "the highest standards" mean to you?
For me, it means 100% because there's nothing higher than that; It's the highest you can go.
App Store
The App Store gives people around the world a safe and trusted place to discover apps that meet our high standards for privacy, security, and content.
www.apple.com
"For over a decade, the App Store has proved to be a safe and trusted place to discover and download apps. And a big part of those experiences is ensuring that the apps we offer are held to the highest standards for privacy, security, and content.
Privacy and security. Built into everything we do.
100% of apps are automatically screened for known malware.
Dedicated to trust and safety."
Privacy and security. Built into everything we do.
100% of apps are automatically screened for known malware.
Dedicated to trust and safety."
But as we can see, the App Store is not 100% secure. How can Apple claim that their App Store "has proved to be a safe... place" and that they ensure that the apps they offer are "held to the highest standards for... security" when malware gets in?
I spend two hours cleaning my mother in law’s android phone (she’s like 70) for all kind of crap. Some of the apps she had would cover the entire screen with an add whenever she received a call. Android user receives a text message with an innocent looking link - like click here to trace your delivery. The link will install some app or virus.
Things like that proof to me that the average user will lose against too “creative” developers if it’s allowed to be Wild West. Apples App Store and rules, for the average user, serve a purpose. Surely, it prevents them from having total freedom over what their device can do, but it also protects users against a lot of malicious crap.
Things like that proof to me that the average user will lose against too “creative” developers if it’s allowed to be Wild West. Apples App Store and rules, for the average user, serve a purpose. Surely, it prevents them from having total freedom over what their device can do, but it also protects users against a lot of malicious crap.
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Because something can be safe and have high standards, even if it is not 100% effective at whatever it does. Errors occur, and bad actors will attempt to sneak by given the size of the target.
This trial is very interesting - just peels back the layers a bit so we can see some inner workings.
Apple must be pretty steamed by the discovery process though.
Apple must be pretty steamed by the discovery process though.
NOTHING is 100% secure......NOTHING. You can think that "highest standards" means that "100%" but that is just NOT possible.Yes, we still have police and crime still exists. But at the same time, the police aren't telling us that their ability to police and protect us are "held to the highest standards"
What does "the highest standards" mean to you?
For me, it means 100% because there's nothing higher than that; It's the highest you can go.
App Store
The App Store gives people around the world a safe and trusted place to discover apps that meet our high standards for privacy, security, and content.www.apple.com
"For over a decade, the App Store has proved to be a safe and trusted place to discover and download apps. And a big part of those experiences is ensuring that the apps we offer are held to the highest standards for privacy, security, and content. Privacy and security. Built into everything we do.100% of apps are automatically screened for known malware.Dedicated to trust and safety."
But as we can see, the App Store is not 100% secure. How can Apple claim that their App Store "has proved to be a safe... place" and that they ensure that the apps they offer are "held to the highest standards for... security" when malware gets in?
And what do you expect the police to say that they DON'T do their job to the highest standard? That would be FAR worse. Highest standard does NOT mean perfect or 100%. If they DIDN'T hold themselves to the highest standard, there would be times where they would say "eh let that criminal go, its only their first time".
I am a developer. I am not forced to port my software to iOS and neither do I want to. It doesn't suit iOS. Or Android. Its only suitable for computers.
And when SOMEONE's device gets infected, it can be used to infect others - zombie device. There is a reason why I have a guest network on a separate VLAN so people with their phones or computers can join without having my devices at risk.
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I also do some development work and on a completely different platform than iOS/Android et all.
That is a key point that counters the "iOS is monopoly" argument. The idea that iOS is somehow its own market outside of the broader phone/pad OS markets is wrong, IMHO. Simply having a significant market share does not a monopoly make.
Developers have plenty of alternatives for using their skills, even beyond phone/pad OS'. They know the ground rules when they make that decision.