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Xiaomi Surpasses Apple to Become Number Two Worldwide Smartphone Vendor in Q2 2021
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So...what did Xiaomi do that made its sales spike 83%?
Well, when you consider there are only 2 smartphone OS and Apple completely controls one of them its more of an oligopoly.
Apple doesn’t make cheap phones and is the most profitable company in the world. I think they are OK with their strategy.
I really don't care if Xiaomi, Samsung or another company sells more than Apple, as long as Apple devices (Software and hardware) fills my needs I will keep buying them. Each one have their own target market and space in this universe spacetime...
They may be ok but to say they don’t care about market share is bull, of course they do…
That is true about the railroads. They were started in some form by the steel mill barons that wanted to get their steel to more places, but that is becoming the more common trend in retail....from what I am seeing. You have Trader Joe's, Aldi, etc only selling house brand...no choice of brand name products. The other main markets...in my area (NE) Whole Foods, Stop n shop, Shoprite and starting to have more and more of their house brand and less of brand name. Department store are are starting to have more house brand. I suspect that that trend will eventually drift into other markets too. So are the brand name manufacturers (who most likely make the house brand product) going to sue the stores ? And even for brand name product, the store tells the manufacturer how much shelf space they get, where they get is located and a hard time window for delivery.
Go back to the Mac clones? I had one in the mid late 90's a dual processor tower...might have been a Power Computing, but I forget) and a 19" RasterOps monitor.That means Apple has a monopoly on Macintosh computers, too.
What will they be forced to do... let HP and Lenovo sell computers running MacOS ?
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I have, along with a few Huawei Mate Pro 20's. pretty nice hardware....fast, lots of RAM (8 GB if I remember correctly) very nice camera.
There made in same factory so what's the deal with quality
I think that we will be in a sad state when a person, company develops a product, creates a company that does well...maybe does not do so well, but then are told be others (governments, crabby users, etc) how to run the business and what can and can't do. I personally would then just sell the IP and shut it down.And?
It's Apple's platform. It's their terms, their development tools, their APIs, their app reviewers, their data centers, etc.
And yes... they run the store. It's their choice.
Google can do whatever they want with their platform, too. That's their choice.
It's funny... earlier I made a joke about people saying "Apple has a monopoly on their own stuff"
And you just said it. Congrats.
The iPhones maybe made in the same factory as others but it doesn't mean quality are the same. During the old days, Apple has Quality Control reps in the plant where its products were made. I don't see any reason to believe that is changing now.
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Sold more phones in China. When from 13% to 15% market share in China. The article did mention that they increased sales outside of China as well, especially in nations where people place a good bargain over prestige. Apple's modest market share in the Chinese market accounts for 20% of Apple's iPhone sales. Is it any wonder Timmy is hell bent to doing better in China?
Finally, someone who speaks sense. Too many people here care too much about impressing others rather than using what works well, because it works well.
Are any global companies, corporations not hell bent on doing more business in China? In a lot of respects, it's an untapped market for some product/services....as it many parts of Asia.
And this is why I laugh at people when they chastise Apple for their “planned obsolescence” mentality. Apple generally builds higher quality, more expensive phones that last longer and are more future-proof. Sure, Apple encourages regular upgrading, but the folks I know with cheaper android phones upgrade far more often than the lay iPhone user. I have family still using iPhone 7s and they are still thrilled with them.
On the other hand, I have coworkers that upgrade their pixels almost yearly because they complain of cracks, issues with device etc etc. I don’t think they are that bad, but they do.
Same thing in college. Roommates made fun of me constantly for spending +$1000 on an Apple laptop. All the while they all owned multiple computers and one guy had 3 computers fail throughout his 4 years. In the end he spent well over $1000. My college laptop still fires up over a decade later, though I no longer use it regularly.
Folks on this forum are unusual in their rate of upgrades but I think Apples environmental ethos is undervalued in regards to their product longevity and support.
Precisely. Almost like Apple is a religion to some of these folks.
I’ve had Apple products for years… but that doesn’t mean that Apple is perfect and doesn’t deserve any criticism. There’s always room for improvement.
Exactly. Enjoy what you like. There is something for everybody.
But speaking of Samsung... no one is mentioning that Samsung is still the worldwide top seller of smartphones... and has been for a looong time.
Because it doesn't matter. There's always gonna be someone at the top of the list. That's how lists work.
No one who drives a Honda cares that Toyota is the #1 automobile seller in the world (or maybe it was Volkswagen?)
See, it doesn't matter.
I think here the smartphone is a tool and fashion accessory...depending on who you are talking to. For some it is a tool, it does everything that they need and expect and are not bothered by the vintage. Look at how many people on this forum are still using iPhones there are multiple years old. I think that says a lot about both, th people that are just using it and the longevity and quality an an Apple product. Then you have the people that are always complaining that "it's ugly" "uugggh, the notch", etc. look in my opinion it's their own perogitive, but in the end, it's their money and they can and should buy whatever makes them happy. My company iPhone is still a 5 and it still works. there are a Lot of iOS features that are not there because it's a major financial corporation and it's a tool, but it does what is needed.
Yup, I have used Apple products since 2007 - but some folks on here get all defensive when you say anything critical of Apple. Apple isn't perfect. They make good phones, but they haven't innovated much the last few years. They need to not rely on being Apple because people get bored and will move to the next best thing if and when that happens.
Agreed, I have been using Apple products since 1985 (Mac 512K) No company is perfect, they all have the pluses and minuses. They, nor most of the other tech companies had pushed out ground breaking innovations lately. Between all of these tech companies, there have been so many innovations that, what's next? how much more can you put into or make these devices do? Being that it's all a give and take...add better screens, better cameras, sensors, etc takes more battery...put in bigger battery, becomes bigger, or thicker, heavier. Need better battery tech...maybe soon. adding features usually raises prices and we all know that people are already bitching about the price. We need to be able to order the device like you order a car, pick the options you want and delete the ones that you don't...I can dream right?
A lot of people complain that it's planned obsolescence, but in my personal experience, Apple's devices are at a quality level that they last and get supported longer than most of the others. Does that not put Apple in a conundrum? they try to make quality devices that last, but they are a corporation in business to make money. If their product lasts so long that they less frequent replacement are they hurting their own bottom line?
I actually live in the UK… all I see is iPhones, and occasionally the odd android.
Absolutely dead center spot on.
Apple does not employ the high volume, lower margin, huge myriad of models business plan. Nothing wrong with that, many people like the myriad of models and cheaper/low price. Some people don't have the available funds to afford the higher end quality and priced equipment/devices. But this high volume biz model makes maintaining hardware-software-ecosystem harder to almost untenable. Apple cannot be matched on this. That is one of Apple's value adds - almost their entire model deployment can be maintained at an even software level and at an interop level that's unmatched. That's a fact, period, despite the shrill crowd who will stomp their foot and say "no!".
But that offering from Apple is not going to come with a discount. Period. No company could do low volume and discount. Not gonna happen. Apple's biz plan of the aforementioned value add as well as selling high quality is not going to come with a 5$ mark up. Head to Walmart for that.
This reality is obvious, it isn't rocket science to figure out, and for some they are going to be better off not on the higher market space Apple platform. Regardless, he whining and complaining about pricing and the dimwitted monopoly talk is laughable. It lacks a basic understanding of a number of biz and consumer simplicities.
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That's true of all companies though, introduce a new product that the market hasn't seen before that provides an improved experience than the existing market participants. What Apple has lost is Steve Jobs' push for what he wants in a product, his vision for the world and his desire to make things that weren't just minor updates on what was there but redefining a market, even ones that already existed. They weren't the first MP3 player nor the first smartphone yet they redefined the market in part in their own image whilst being written off by their competition at the time. When he got up on stage to disparage the market was a combination of his own insight and Apple's talent to make it work. Whilst Apple still retains amazing engineering talent, Apple lost a product visionary and I haven't seen anyone really fill that role since.
Nobody can replace Steve Jobs. A handful of people come along in a generation that combine the vision, drive, know how and singular ****** stubbornness. I lived it indirectly. When I started at Apple it was Steve Jobs last days. Years later I took a job elsewhere and left Apple. It was about 75% into the no-Steve Jobs interim with John Sculley as CEO. (I do wish fate would have had me stay to be part of the new Apple). Apple was in a bad tailspin: windows 3.1, layoffs, consolidation, newton, terrible GP/NP and stock that was tanked (Do I ever wish I would have held onto my thousands of cheap, sputtering 90s Apple stock given by the company
). When I left, the Steve Jobs vision of Apple was sputtering away. It was hitting rough seas and existing management wanted to get out of that trouble by being more like mass producer, high volume ACME Electronics company. Steve Jobs came back. He brought back that original incredible vision of 'everyone overlooks existing and mundane ACME Electronics company product X -- yet that can be made higher tech Product X2 or Y, something that will do it better, different and become a positive aspect of millions of peoples' lives. ' (Apple often wasn't't original, it was doing it better, as you mentioned) But that was Apple circa 1999 when Apple absolutely required a Steve Jobs. Fast forward 10 years and you'll see Steve Jobs great contributions also could be an impediment to success. The need for Steve Jobs was no longer absolute. For example, It is stated that he did not want large seen iPhones. Arguably, iPhone 6+ was the most successful iPhone next to the original iPhones.
This second time upon his unfortunate death, Steve Jobs left an enduring mark on the company that wasn't the case when he was forced out in the early 80s. In 2010, others in the company were also brining ideas that were thanks to Steve's way but having to figuratively go around Steve's stubbornness. For example it is said his stubbornness had to be gotten around (example A: big screen iPhones aside) the now incredibly successful Apple Music. Apple was synonymous with the new age of personal music. Yet it is said he was against an all in one cloud streaming music service. That let Spotify grab that space with multiple years headstart. That is something Apple should have owned from day 1. The acquisition of Beats to help with that, that also turned into a highly lucrative wearables line.
Examples of his legacy impression on the company is AppleWatch. 100+ million sold in 5 years. A mundane device that was more often than not a style accessory. Within a few years AW may have 1/5 of a billion sold. Arguably it is the most successful device next to the iPhone.
Thanks for letting me reminisce about my old Mac SE days
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