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XP and VPC = AWESOME
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It is VERY hard to find the correct point... I have all the CRT iMacs here at the office running 96MB with 2K (the recommeded amount) but they are so slow at emulating at more RAM does not help. If the CPU can not keep up more RAM does nothing. As the machine you are working on gets faster, the RAM makes more difference and then, once you hit that point that the CPU is waiting on virtual RAM it makes a HUGE difference.
Ive had the chance to play with an iBook 600 with 128 megs running win 98 and it was very useable.
Your statements are somewhat misleading. Yes, out of the box XP recognizes more devices but that's mostly due to drivers being included for devices not available when W2k was developed. There are *very* and I mean *very* few devices that will work with XP and not 2000. It's really insignificant.
As for software compatibility I'd say it's a wash. I've witnessed and heard stories from competent people I know that have apps that run fine on one and not the other. XP truly has some real changes internally but for the most part is more hype than anything when compared to Win2k. I'm still amazed at how many people griped about being charged for Mac OS 10.2 yet those same people who deal with the Windows world didn't object to handing MS money for going to WinXP from Win2k.
I actually had a go at someone commenting on a news factor article when they compared Mac OS X.2 to a M$ Service Pack suggesting that Apple is screwing us because we have to pay for our update.
Not to get too far off topic but Apple just dropped the ball on this one. They stated before that single point increases would be free updates and that whole version or .5 versions would be pay upgrades. If they wanted to change it, they should have announced it ahead of time better, changed what the version was(10.5 comes to mind), or changed the name like MS does(doubtful since they've focused so much on the Mac OS X name). People only griped for the most part because it was perceived they were getting taken advantage of. Perception is the issue.
benixau
macrumors 65816
Ok, M$ ripps you off. say yo had win95 and wanted to goto XP Pro. They have to fork out AUD$695 adn then get their free updates for a few years and then upgrade again. AUD$200 for XP 2 or whatever.
Now lets look at Mac OS. AUD$229 upfront for a very good stable OS. free .x.x updates, which are like service packs. Then pay for the next big one at AUD$229. If my maths is right using MacOS i have saved AUD$437. Which is enough for another version of MacOS.
Who is getting ripped.
Now lets look at Mac OS. AUD$229 upfront for a very good stable OS. free .x.x updates, which are like service packs. Then pay for the next big one at AUD$229. If my maths is right using MacOS i have saved AUD$437. Which is enough for another version of MacOS.
Who is getting ripped.
MacCoaster
macrumors 6502a
Why in the world would people upgrade from 95 to 98 to Me to 2000 to XP?
Do it the easy way and cheaper way--just buy XP Pro and install from scratch. It's 99USD educational.
Start
"Right" Click "My Computer"
"Left" Click "Properties"
Click "Advanced"
Click the "Settings" button under the heading "Performance"
Click "Adjust for best performace"
And just ok that off
Now why, for the love of God, can't Apple add a checkbox to turn off eye candy. You'd think if the Devil Incarnate could add that feature, Apple could--just turning off all the translucence alone in OS X, I wouldn't need Quartz Extreme...
Re: Re: 100 to 1
I got my iMac G3 when my son was 3. I bought a printer the next night, opened it, sat it on my desk, and went to sleep. When I woke up, my 3 year old son had a stack of Mickey Mouse pictures. I asked him where they came from and he replied "The computer gave them to me." He was easily able to figure out how to hook up a USB cable. I'm not sure how he actually figured out how to make the printer print, though it was an option in a game that I had bought him and he had played with a little. He knows that, in his words, "Macintosh has an apple up there, and Windows has a window down there." He can use the start menu and apple menu to navigate to the program he wants, but of course he has to recognize the icon. He's not too good with OSX, but with me working more hours and him in kindergarten now, I haven't had as much time to help him. But, when I put an icon for a game on the desktop, he has absolutely no problem double-clicking.
I got my iMac G3 when my son was 3. I bought a printer the next night, opened it, sat it on my desk, and went to sleep. When I woke up, my 3 year old son had a stack of Mickey Mouse pictures. I asked him where they came from and he replied "The computer gave them to me." He was easily able to figure out how to hook up a USB cable. I'm not sure how he actually figured out how to make the printer print, though it was an option in a game that I had bought him and he had played with a little. He knows that, in his words, "Macintosh has an apple up there, and Windows has a window down there." He can use the start menu and apple menu to navigate to the program he wants, but of course he has to recognize the icon. He's not too good with OSX, but with me working more hours and him in kindergarten now, I haven't had as much time to help him. But, when I put an icon for a game on the desktop, he has absolutely no problem double-clicking.
benixau
macrumors 65816
Wow, what ignorance ..... I said AUD, not USD. and that is a straight outright brand new. as i know, and so should you, you cant upgrade from 95 to XP, at all!! Ther3efore it is a new purchase. BTW an upgrade version of XP Pro is AUD$400. still almost two version of mac os.
Sorry, mac os is so much more economical in terms of price i think i might (dare i say it) live with the ocst of buying 10.2 brand new. If i wasnt getting a new computer with it pre-installed.
Mac OS is always good value for money. There are two version of it, OS X and OS X Server. in the windblow world, there are many more .... XP Home, XP Pro, 2k Server, 2k Advanced Server, 2k Datacentre Server. The last for 10 users is about AUD$3000.
OS X Server 10.2 with unlimited users is AUD$1799. Once again Mac OS X is cheaper. And it does everything the other does aswell.
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Please have you son submit a resume to me. He apparently has more skill then most of our management staff..... 😀
Please have you son submit a resume to me. He apparently has more skill then most of our management staff..... 😀
MacCoaster
macrumors 6502a
http://www.microsoft.com/australia/...sp?strPFN=Windows+XP+Professional&strRet=TRUE
It's 199 AUD for Academic full version.
And actually, you can upgrade from 95 to 98 to XP. But seriously, who would do that now? Just get the $199 XP Pro and install from scratch.