XP on Mac Contest Won??

[balamw]

If anybody is going to win this contest, I'd bet on these guys:http://www.osxbook.com/book/bonus/misc/legacyboot/

I agree. These guys are the ones who got Knoppix (Linux) working and provided a download to prove it.

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[Abulia]

Look carefully at the photos, especially the one where the screen image overlaps the bezel on the right hand side. This appears to be a hoax, and a crude one at that.

Look again, the Dell monitor that he has another computer hooked up to cuts in front of the line of sight of the iMac. The image doesn't overlap, the contrasting effect from light to dark (bloom effect) bleeds over.

This guy may be a great hacker but he sucks as a photographer. 😀

 

[MacEffects]

Wow, this would give the Windows users a wake-up call, needless to say those people that say "Thats an iPod computer right" crazy ignorant people, the public pretends to know what they are talking about, but they don't know anything about computers, sorry this had to be said. Well, people just might is its easy or OEM with a Mac to use Windows this might give people reason to switch and we could have record numbers of switchers, better then the 80's when Apple was the only one with the Real GUI 😀 🙄

 

[IJ Reilly]

Look again, the Dell monitor that he has another computer hooked up to cuts in front of the line of sight of the iMac. The image doesn't overlap, the contrasting effect from light to dark (bloom effect) bleeds over.

This guy may be a great hacker but he sucks as a photographer. 😀

I've looked several times, don't see any Dell monitor. The screen image which is supposed to be on the iMac display overlaps with the bezel and is distorted besides.

 

[jdechko]

And I'm sure Apple will stop that as soon as it works anyway. And even if they don't, warranties will be voided left and right.

I highly doubt it for 2 reasons.

1) Apple has said that they would do nothing to stop people from running XP/Windows on the intel Macs. They would not support XP, nor would they assist in doing it, but they wouldn't stop users from doing it. (Leading me to believe that the warranty would still be in tact.

2) Apple would love people to buy their hardware. I think being able to dual-boot the system is a major plus (something like 75% of college students would buy a Mac if it could dual boot).

 

[Abulia]

I've looked several times, don't see any Dell monitor. The screen image which is supposed to be on the iMac display overlaps with the bezel and is distorted besides.

Without knowing which of the 6 pictures you're referring to I can't see how you can miss the big, black bezel of the Dell monitor in front.

Be that as it may, I suspect one of us will be eating crow.

 

[IJ Reilly]

Without knowing which of the 6 pictures you're referring to I can't see how you can miss the big, black bezel of the Dell monitor in front.

Be that as it may, I suspect one of us will be eating crow.

I feel like I'm double-posting now, but here's an edit of the image I posted in the other thread on this topic that to me just screams "hoax."

 

[Abulia]

Not seeing the problem. The slight angle differences are accountable by the blooming effect and the nature of photography. Take a picture of a sheet of paper; you'll have similiar edge distortions.

And it is a Dell monitor, identical to the one in front of me right now that I'm typing on or have at home on my PM. You can see it here and even catch the edge of the OSD menu being displayed.

 

[IJ Reilly]

I see your point, but I remain unpersuaded. We'll see who's right, if and when this person claims the prize.

 

[Josh]

This is just the first try and if it is really a very good one at that. I would expect after he gets his reward that he will release it and then anyone and everyone that can code or do something with this will start working on the second wave.

If this does turn out to be real i will probably end up selling my iBook and iMac and buying a merom MBP and trying this on on it. Ideally i would love to see this as a thing like rosetta. *fingers crossed*

I'm not sure if I read your post correctly, but dual-boot doesn't meaning booting two operating systems at the same time. It gives you the choice of booting one or the other.

If this even worked, you would not be able to open Windows' apps in OS X in a similar fashion as Rosetta. You'd still need VPC to do that.

 

[Cue]

Video Proof

 

[MRU]

Excellent.

Clearly real and the speed was impresive. But what impressed me was the windows icon on boot? How the heck did he do that?

Can he dual boot or is he stuck with XP like this? Also be sweet to know if gfx card drivers and sound all worked.

 

[TBi]

He more than likely modded the boot screen of XP to show the logo on a grey background. People have been doing this for ages but this is the first time i've seen it on a clean install. He must have modified the file before he burnt it to the install CD.

From what i know the apple logo on boot up is actually part of OSX and not stored in ROM. You could probably hack that too.

EDIT: I'm posting this twice but the solution has been submitted and is being tested.

 

[p0intblank]

Wow, sweet video! How did he get Windows logo to show up at boot like that?

 

[TBi]

Wow, sweet video! How did he get Windows logo to show up at boot like that?

It's just a modified bootscreen for windows.

 

[IJ Reilly]

That's one ugly video -- but pretty persuasive nonetheless. So, do we know who pulled it off, and how they did it?

 

[Josh]

Can it be proven that what's on screen is not being fed from another PC, or just a video running full-screen?

I mean I believe it is real, but people can be cleverly devious 😎

 

[p0intblank]

It's just a modified bootscreen for windows.

Yeah, that's neat how they managed to change it before the install process. I've changed mine before (on my Windows box, not OS X), but through software.

 

[TBi]

Yeah, that's neat how they managed to change it before the install process. I've changed mine before (on my Windows box, not OS X), but through software.

They are probably using a modified install disk of XP so i'm assuming they saved the modified version of the boot screen to the CD.

 

[IJ Reilly]

Can it be proven that what's on screen is not being fed from another PC, or just a video running full-screen?

Only when the person who did it steps forward and demonstrates the technique publicly.

 

[Peace]

Can it be proven that what's on screen is not being fed from another PC, or just a video running full-screen?

I mean I believe it is real, but people can be cleverly devious 😎

It's easy to feed video from the iMac to another monitor but very hard to send video to the iMac from another computer..The mini-DVI on the iMac is an output not an input

It could possibly be a video in full screen mode.

 

[dejo]

It's easy to feed video from the iMac to another monitor but very hard to send video to the iMac from another computer.

You can feed video into the iMac easily through a USB capture device, such as Elgato.

 

[Peace]

You can feed video into the iMac easily through a USB capture device, such as Elgato.

I realize that.But that isn't sending an output from a different computer to the iMac.It's just sending a video..

In otherwords you cant boot a PC using Windows and have it seen on the iMac UNLESS it's a video of a boot..

 

[SeRgIo_42]

Today I cried...

well, almost that.

Somehow, despite my interest in booting Windows on these new Macs,
I felt sad when I saw the MS logo in this vid :

http://www.gizmodo.com/ (check the first posts).

anyway, congrats for those guys.

S.

 

[dejo]

I realize that.But that isn't sending an output from a different computer to the iMac.It's just sending a video..

In otherwords you cant boot a PC using Windows and have it seen on the iMac UNLESS it's a video of a boot..

The output from the computer could be converted to a video signal. That other computer might even have a composite or S-video connection.