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Xserve Refresh Coming Within the Next Week or Two?

edesignuk said:
I'd love to know the sales figures on the Xserve. They must be minuscule. It's hard to believe the whole line is worth bothering with at all.
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They sell enough to warrant the expense. Let's not forget that if you're running a media company you may be running Final Cut Studio and Final Cut Server along with XSAN which requires a a whole server just for Metadata.


Schizoid said:
Rejoice, for Apple's finest computer is being updated!
Hopefully they'll keep 2 x FW 800 in the back!
Fibre Channel should be as standard!!
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Fibre Channel's not that pervasive. How about Apple finish that iSCSI initiator and add iSCSI support for XSAN that would be very nice IMO.
 
Really liked this review by Tom Yager from early 2008 -
Worth a read and accessible for those not too familiar with servers/XServe
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/06/19TC-apple-xserve_1.html

The potential that 10.6 could have with the XServe, and XSan hasn't really been pushed much, but hopefully beyond what the Xeons can provide, 10.6 might add a bit more also.
Whether the ability to "consolidate your Windows, Linux, and even OS X servers through Parallels or VMware virtualization" gets more traction, we'll see.
 
zombitronic said:
I hope the storage capacity is significantly increased. 6TB (with three 2TB drives) would be nice.
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If you need a lot of storage for your Xserve, you should look into Xsan; it's a fiber-optic storage solution that can get your Xserve using up to 16 TB, but it's very expensive although very high-performance and reliable.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Dovecot sounds interesting as more robust Mail Server core. I hope this is true

I'd like to run my own mailserver and good IMAP and push email services to the iPhone would be great.
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Dovecot is a fairly nice server if you're used to setting up a Linux environment. I set it up for work, although ultimately we went for Zimbra, a free email/calendaring solution.

Regardless of the setup, IMAP does not do push, not ever; it's not part of the spec. It does pull email, which is functionally quite different but roughly the same from the user perspective.
 
cthielen said:
Regardless of the setup, IMAP does not do push, not ever; it's not part of the spec. It does pull email, which is functionally quite different but roughly the same from the user perspective.
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No I want IMAP for client connections an push email for iPhones. I certainly do not want to create the impression that they are in anyway linked.

I also want to see how Apple leverages ZFS read/write, improves cluster features and delivers overall polish.

A cheaper Xserve product would be nice as well.
 
Am I the only one who would love to see Apple release a product to compete with HP's Home MediaSmart Server?
 
Warrior09 said:
Am I the only one who would love to see Apple release a product to compete with HP's Home MediaSmart Server?
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Do you think this is the direction of AppleTV? You can store photos, movies, etc. on it - streaming off it to your iPhone, etc. seems like the next step, and it all integrates with MobileMe so you can publish photos for relatives to view, etc.

Just seems to me like this is the obvious path for AppleTV with respect to the Home MediaSmart Server.
 
My high school had an XServe RAID setup for publications and film studies back when I was there and I'm sure it's still around. Pretty reliable servers.
 
Warrior09 said:
Am I the only one who would love to see Apple release a product to compete with HP's Home MediaSmart Server?
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Yes I do. Perhaps by the time iTunes 9 is ready we'll have the ability to centralize our media.

Apple will hopefully have a multi bay box that allows all media to be streamed to Apple TV or Mac/PC on a network.

MobileMe users will get Slingbox like features for streaming their A/V over the internet.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Yes I do. Perhaps by the time iTunes 9 is ready we'll have the ability to centralize our media.

Apple will hopefully have a multi bay box that allows all media to be streamed to Apple TV or Mac/PC on a network.

MobileMe users will get Slingbox like features for streaming their A/V over the internet.
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That's exactly what I'd like to see only sooner rather than later. My HD is at its breaking point and I'm trying to hold out for the inevitable iSolution before dropping a bunch of cash on a Drobo or something like that. I'm an iTunes junkie and would be downloading HD TV Shows and Movies left and right if I had the space.. :D
 
The Samurai said:
Kinda funny how all these updates are coming around when Jobs is not in office (well, technically).
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It kinda makes sense to update all of the hardware BEFORE Snow Leopard gets released. There's an initial sales surge when new hardware is released, and this way they get some extra sales of OS upgrades. Plus, they get double exposure for the hardware.

I'd be highly surprised if any fundamentally new products are released before Jobs comes back, though.
 
Warrior09 said:
That's exactly what I'd like to see only sooner rather than later. My HD is at its breaking point and I'm trying to hold out for the inevitable iSolution before dropping a bunch of cash on a Drobo or something like that. I'm an iTunes junkie and would be downloading HD TV Shows and Movies left and right if I had the space.. :D
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+1

I'm hoping Apple doesn't have us waiting too long. Currently in a multiple computer household if you have media strewn across these computers you've got stranded data. What if the movie I want to watch is on my gf's computer? I have to make sure it's on and ready to stream.

A centralized box should have the intelligence and it should be able to stream saving the need for other Mac/PC to be sucking up power. It's a more "Green" solution to be sure.

How 'Bout an Xserve mini hehehe.
 
am I the only one wondering who will be the first to buy 2 3.2ghz Gainestown and install it on a new mac pro? That would be crazy....
 
nuckinfutz said:
+1

I'm hoping Apple doesn't have us waiting too long. Currently in a multiple computer household if you have media strewn across these computers you've got stranded data. What if the movie I want to watch is on my gf's computer? I have to make sure it's on and ready to stream.

A centralized box should have the intelligence and it should be able to stream saving the need for other Mac/PC to be sucking up power. It's a more "Green" solution to be sure.

How 'Bout an Xserve mini hehehe.
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Exactly! I'm tired of having to have my MBP running all the time. My dream solution would be a centralized box that holds ALL of my itunes media that would run 24/7 and could stream on demand to my MBP, my girlfriends MB, multiple Apple TVs, and possibly even my iPhone. It seems like such an obvious product for Apple to implement. Icing on the cake would be to be able to access everything through MobileMe when away from home, which I think will definitely be a feature. That's possibly the reason for the hold up in releasing something like this. I know there were rampant rumors of an Apple Home Server prior to Macworld. Hurry up Apple!!
 
cthielen said:
If you need a lot of storage for your Xserve, you should look into Xsan; it's a fiber-optic storage solution that can get your Xserve using up to 16 TB, but it's very expensive although very high-performance and reliable.
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... as long as you have two more xserves for primary and backup metadata controllers, a fibre channel switch, separate ethernet network for metadata and a Promise RAID, you're well away... up to 2 Petabyte volumes, although Apple now say that's more of a limitation of the number of physical drives...
 
nuckinfutz said:
A centralized box should have the intelligence and it should be able to stream saving the need for other Mac/PC to be sucking up power. It's a more "Green" solution to be sure.

How 'Bout an Xserve mini hehehe.
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Warrior09 said:
My dream solution would be a centralized box that holds ALL of my itunes media that would run 24/7 and could stream on demand to my MBP, my girlfriends MB, multiple Apple TVs, and possibly even my iPhone. It seems like such an obvious product for Apple to implement. Icing on the cake would be to be able to access everything through MobileMe when away from home, which I think will definitely be a feature.
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FWIW, this is already completely possible, minus MobileMe support. I've got an old Power Mac G4 with a 1.5TB concatenated volume hosting my iTunes library. I just set iTunes preferences on all my other Macs to use this iTunes Music folder.

I've also got a 2TB FireWire striped RAID array connected to this G4 which I use as the Time Machine disk for all the other Macs on my network.

I agree that a low-power, smaller, drive expandable home media server from Apple would be ideal, though.
 
zombitronic said:
FWIW, this is already completely possible, minus MobileMe support. I've got an old Power Mac G4 with a 1.5TB concatenated volume hosting my iTunes library. I just set iTunes preferences on all my other Macs to use this iTunes Music folder.

I've also got a 2TB FireWire striped RAID array connected to this G4 which I use as the Time Machine disk for all the other Macs on my network.

I agree that a low-power, smaller, drive expandable home media server from Apple would be ideal, though.
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Yeah I've thought about buying a Mac Mini and hooking it up to a Drobo. I've been telling myself that I'd wait to see what WWDC brings, but if nothing gets announced I'll be saying it again for the iPod event so I need to go ahead an bite the bullet.. :rolleyes::apple:
 
Warrior09 said:
Exactly! I'm tired of having to have my MBP running all the time. My dream solution would be a centralized box that holds ALL of my itunes media that would run 24/7 and could stream on demand to my MBP, my girlfriends MB, multiple Apple TVs, and possibly even my iPhone. It seems like such an obvious product for Apple to implement. Icing on the cake would be to be able to access everything through MobileMe when away from home, which I think will definitely be a feature. That's possibly the reason for the hold up in releasing something like this. I know there were rampant rumors of an Apple Home Server prior to Macworld. Hurry up Apple!!
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http://www.solaris.com

Setup a ZFS array, enable iSCSI targets or just use NFS. Just do a little reading outside of the Apple world and you can do most anything. I just setup a 6 x 1.5TB array and it hosts everything from my network, including TimeMachine backups and the ZFS snapshots.
 
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