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spikeovsky said:
Long-time lurker (since soon after MacRumors went live), but I think this is the first time I've posted.

So, Xsan's been released, and all that that entails. My question is: What does that entail? Or, more simply, what the hell does it do??? I've been trying to read the Xsan website, but I haven't a clue what it means. Anyone willing to offer a relatively simple explanation? I haven't felt like this since .Net was first announced.

Xsan is a filing system for Storage Area Networks (SAN). My best guess it that it's similar to Filemaker Pro.
 
New goodies just as rumored... but Apple.com still has ONLY Tsunami-relief info. Good for them. (And iTMS now has Red Cross donation built right in--one-click giving!)
 
good news for uk

Almost all the apple mac line up has been reduced in price, ibooks & powerbooks down by £50, imacs down by between £20 & £50, powermac g5's down by between £50 and £200, and the monster savings on displays that were predicted.
 
Is it just me, or has NOTHING changed in the Australian store?

The xserves still show up as 2.0GHz. No 2.3GHz to be seen. Can someone please verify?
 
spikeovsky said:
My question is: What does that entail? Or, more simply, what the hell does it do??? I've been trying to read the Xsan website, but I haven't a clue what it means. Anyone willing to offer a relatively simple explanation? I haven't felt like this since .Net was first announced.

Xsan is important for situations when you need the same information available to many people simultaneously. For example, you just shot 30 hours of video. You load the video onto disk. If that disk is a SAN, you and a few other people can begin editing that 30 hours of material without getting in each other's way, even if you're calling up the same shot as someone else at the same time in your respective systems. Does that make sense?
 
What Xsan does

Xsan lets you pool mass amounts of storage together and share it across multiple computers/servers--efficiently, reliably and FAST (using Fibre Channel connections)--with lots of cross-platform standards-compatibility. SAN = Storage Area Network. Much better than just networking a bunch of servers and drives together on a conventional LAN.

There are many applications, from serving large files to large-scale redundant backup solutions. That's my limited understanding.

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See:
http://www.apple.com/xsan/

One notable feature: like Xserve RAID, Xsan has an unusually low price vs. competitors.

Xsan, Xgrid, Xserve, Xserve Cluster Node, and Xserve RAID, and OS X Server are becoming a pretty decent enterprise toehold for Apple, I'd say.
 
captain kirk said:
Almost all the apple mac line up has been reduced in price, ibooks & powerbooks down by £50, imacs down by between £20 & £50, powermac g5's down by between £50 and £200, and the monster savings on displays that were predicted.


The G4 eMac is still £549 lol.......... the superdrive version dropped £20 though - £679
 
The Bartender said:
Xsan is a filing system for Storage Area Networks (SAN). My best guess it that it's similar to Filemaker Pro.

So...please excuse my ignorance, but what, precisely, are "Storage Area Networks"? And isn't Filemaker still something of an Apple subsidiary? If so, why would Apple release something to go head-to-head with Filemaker Pro? If not, I hang my head in shame :D.

I get the impression that Xsan's a way to share high-speed storage over a high-speed network to allow real-time collaboration on projects. Something like that?
 
It looks like Apple is playing hardball now with this wave of price cuts, maybe they finally decided to take on the PC market.

UK Store price cuts noticed:

iMac G5 1.6 GHz - £919 to £899
iBook G4 12" - £799 to £699
PowerMac G5 1.8 GHz single - £1099 to £999
PowerBook 12" combo - £1149 to £1099
20" Display - £999 to £699

Just a summary of the main price changes on bottom models, WOW that are some major reductions here!!!!

May be time to get my credit card out, although I think I'll wait until Macworld first ;)
 
Xsan

Xsan is a storage area network. It allows you to "network" fibre channel storage devices with computers who use them. Without Xsan you could plug an Xserve raid (all 5+ terrabytes) into one computer, and use it. If you had two computer that needed to use that space, you could either share over ethernet (slow and yucky) swap cables (still yucky) or use SAN software to group all of your XServe Raids into a pool that all of the attached fibre channel computers can use. You no longer have to worry about allocating disk space to projects, moving disks or cables around, etc.



pretty nifty stuff

Xsan is the software that coordinates the storage network, like a software router in a sense.

Filemaker is NOT a SAN filemaker is a sad excuse for a database. I am a database administrator for a place that uses filemaker. Seriously it would be easier for me to print out all the data on paper and whenever anyone wanted data they just called me on the telephone and asked for it.
 
Updated pricing better reflects current exhange rates

Sir_Giggles said:
Previous CDN store pricing.

20" $1799 now $1249 :eek:
23" $2799 now $2299 :eek:
30" $4699 now $3799 :eek:

It seems they've adjusted the pricing on all sorts of things to reflect the stronger CDN dollar. For example a dual 2ghz PM used to be C$3,499 (1.40 exchange) now it's C$3,149 (1.26 exchange) compared with US$2,499. That's pretty good, considering the exchange rate is around 1.20 today. They've even adjusted the pricing for upgrades like memory, hard drives, etc. Judging by some other posts, it seems Apple has adjusted prices for all countries to better reflect current exchange rates.

On behalf of all non Americans, thank you Apple!
 
Rod Rod said:
Xsan is important for situations when you need the same information available to many people simultaneously. For example, you just shot 30 hours of video. You load the video onto disk. If that disk is a SAN, you and a few other people can begin editing that 30 hours of material without getting in each other's way, even if you're calling up the same shot as someone else at the same time in your respective systems. Does that make sense?

Absolutely clear - thanks!
 
joed said:
Is it just me, or has NOTHING changed in the Australian store?

The xserves still show up as 2.0GHz. No 2.3GHz to be seen. Can someone please verify?

yes apple australia still seem to believe that all australians who use computers are loaded.....
or they are slack and wont update until tomorrow morning :p
 
JRM said:
Also for England the US dollar buys .52 of a pound so you are right in saying you're getting ripped off as well

Canadians are getting ripped off on pricing points as well. If i were to take the 1 hour drive to Michigan to buy my next iMac/Powermac or display I would save myself about $300+/- CAD per purchase...


**Edit... Looks like Apple took into effect the rising Canadian dollar and also lowered pricing on the iMac and Powermac too!!!

iMac (1.6GHz 17") started at $1749.99 and is now $1599.... And the same trend in the Powermac line.. Brings us almost on par with our American neighbours!
 
MacMyDay said:
Hmm, wonder why they'd reduce the prices of the PowerBooks if new one's are coming soon

First, keep in mind this was an adjustment due to the fact that the US Dollar has lost ground against the Euro, the Pound Sterling, the Swiss Franc and against the Scandinavian currencies. So what it means for the PBs is that we can now rule out an update at MWSF next week because the wouldn't lower the prices for one week unless this is the beginning of the clearance sale and the new models will be introduced at the old prices. But that's rather unlikely. The price adjustments don't rule out an update towards the end of this month. Secondly, Apple has to start to get rid of the current models sometime. Since the PBs have not been updated since last April, their European prices were to high in comparison to the iBooks and the competition.
 
topofthawoz said:
yes apple australia still seem to believe that all australians who use computers are loaded.....
or they are slack and wont update until tomorrow morning :p

Sorry, no updates for Australia. With all these price-cuts, Apple has to make money somewhere!
 
Australia:

20" was $2299 now $1599
23" was $3499 now $2899
30" was $5999 now $4899

12" ibook was $1695 now $1599

PM single 1.8GHz was $2699 now $2399
PM dual 1.8GHz was $3599 now $3199
PM dual 2.0GHz was $4499 now $3999
PM dual 2.5GHz was $5999 now $4899

iMac 17" 1.6GHz was $2199 now $1999
iMac 17" 1.8GHz was $2499 now $2399
iMac 20" 1.8GHz was $3199 now $2999

woo Apple. Now I will be getting a 20" Display :D
 
This should answer your question.

http://images.apple.com/server/pdfs/20050104_Xsan_Getting_Started.pdf

More information:

http://www.apple.com/server/documentation/

spikeovsky said:
So...please excuse my ignorance, but what, precisely, are "Storage Area Networks"? And isn't Filemaker still something of an Apple subsidiary? If so, why would Apple release something to go head-to-head with Filemaker Pro? If not, I hang my head in shame :D.

I get the impression that Xsan's a way to share high-speed storage over a high-speed network to allow real-time collaboration on projects. Something like that?
 
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