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Yahoo! Rejects Microsoft Bid!
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Why is this news on MacRumors? Is it *at all* Mac specific or are we just trying to generate more web hits? Not try to be super-acrid, I just don't get it. Anyone?
Exactly. Google's attitude is "it's your data", to a degree I haven't seen from anyone else. You can get your email out of gmail in a number of ways, and their blogs often talk about ways to make cool uses of not only their own products, but also stuff from other companies including apple, yahoo, and even microsoft.
Of course, they could decided to suddenly stop doing this and decide to start locking people in, in which case they would be dead to me like Microsoft has been for years. And I'd look elsewhere and suggest my friends do the same. I think they understand this.
dodging a bullet
Microsoft luckily did not suffer the fate that bestow upon Time Warner when it acquired AOL. Watch as Yahoo marketshare evaporate to the level of ask.com, and soon Yahoo will be worthless. I must admire, Jerry's pride overcoming his greed.
Nothing to see here
move along people
Cinch
Microsoft luckily did not suffer the fate that bestow upon Time Warner when it acquired AOL. Watch as Yahoo marketshare evaporate to the level of ask.com, and soon Yahoo will be worthless. I must admire, Jerry's pride overcoming his greed.
Nothing to see here
move along people
Cinch
I wouldn't go that far. This is most likely just an attempt to get MSFT to raise it bid. If the company just out right accepted the first bid, shareholders could have a case to sue if they felt the company did not act in their best interests to make them the most money.
In the end, Yahoo is a business. If enough money comes a walkin' in the door, they will give in, and that is what they are attempting to do now...get more money. A year ago, MSFT offered $40/per share.
adamcz said:
But, Yahoo! can enact their poison pill if MSFT buys more than 15% of Yahoo! stock, in which they release more and more stock, thus diluting MSFT's percentage holding the company.
Frisco said:
Thank you. 3 of them already do. Apple does it in music. MSFT does is in OS. And, Google does it in targeted ad search.
A year ago MSFT offered $40 per share.
This year they are offering $31 per share.
Yahoo and its decision makers act like recent home owners who are trying sell their overprice stucco box (the housing bubble). "I'm not just going to give it away!"
Next year a lesser competitor will make an offer of $15, and Jerry will swallow his pride and take it!
Brilliant business strategy!
Cinch
Yes, but really now. When Microsoft does it, do their products really end up with the same quality as the other two?
Just imagine whether a great social photo sharing service like flickr would ever exist under Microsoft's corporate culture. I mean, look at the hotmail trainwreck: tell me with a straight face that it's as good a service as gmail or Yahoo! mail.
Can you ever imagine Microsoft creating iTunes out of a product like SoundJam? If MS had bought SoundJam instead, just imagine what it would look like. They just don't get simplicity, and elegance, and the other two do.
Not to mention, I don't recall either of Apple or Google actually cutting deals with companies saying that they could only use their product if they *didn't* use their competitors. Apple would not say to Wal-Mart: "You can sell our iPods in your store, but not if you sell digital music downloads online". Well, that's exactly the kind of tactics MS used against Netscape in the 90s (to Compaq: "You cannot have a Windows license for your computers if you bundle Netscape"), and it's much more impactful, since Compaq could literally not have sold the computers without Windows on them, not to mention slimier than either Apple or Google would have behaved under the circumstances, IMO.
I think you can argue that any company would take great steps to protect their position, but to claim that Microsoft, Apple and Google are equivalent is just burying your head in the sand in a different way. They're all good in some ways, and evil in others, but not necessarily in the same ways.
No, that's Google. Google is big and getting bigger.
Microsoft was a monopoly and getting weaker. I'd be much more afraid of Google than MS. I've never been afraid of Microsoft, and yet I'm afraid of what Google can do. They have more control over information than anyone else, and THAT makes them scarier than anyone else.
MS can offer $28 per share in 1 year, and it would be an offer no Yahoo shareholder could refuse.
funny how the comments on engadget's article seems to be for the takeover, while here it's no way microsoft. Also, the commenters on Engadget provide some valid points while here people are against it solely because it's microsoft. Bias sucks, that why people should watch C-SPAN (read: gain insight on both sides).
Of course it has repercussion across the whole industry, but not Mac-specific repercussions. Just seems like an odd "*Mac*Rumor." I can get this same news at USA Today (ugh!) or CNN (double ugh!).
because apple has some tie ins with yahoo. thats why.
like with the iphone's push email.
and since apple are tied in with at&t a bit, at&t are also partnered with yahoo.
I can't stand Microsoft, can't wait till I save money to buy my first apple computer, this vista is driving me crazy...I'm getting a thousand messages from the system once I click "Submit Reply" to see if i'm sure of what I'm doing. I feel like Vista treats me as if I were a dumbass and didn't know what to do...lol
Microsoft must be desperate in competing with Google. What benefit does Microsoft gain in taking over Yahoo other than being in direct competition with Google? I mean, what does Google offer that has Microsoft getting this desperate?
Microsoft has it's parallels in the rise and fall of the roman empire but there are some interesting twists given the 'virtuality' of the new frontiers;
Microsoft already accomplished total global domination and so all they can do is acquire, assimilate and destroy anything that represents a future threat to that empire.
That's the ONLY game left they can play - since they have already won and have near total ownership of the global desktop. They can only control 'uprisings' - which is exactly what Google and Yahoo are (and Apple for that matter)
Yahoo is simply another country to be conquered, assimilated and routed for assets. They don't really care what they accomplish with Yahoo as long as they are 'dealt with'
What is really nuts is when people say Google is a monopoly as if it's a valid defense for Microsoft acquiring YET another 'virtual territory'.
To continue the parallel of the Roman Empire ;
Microsoft acquiring Yahoo is like a new life sustaining planet mysteriously arriving in our solar system and not content with 'total ownership of earth' Microsoft want 'Epsilon' too...except Google have near total global domination of 'Epsilon' except for Yahoo who are also on 'that planet'. What's happening here is Microsoft are about to invade 'Epsilon' using Yahoo as it's first country of occupation on the new planet.
Let's be brutally honest here if it wasn't for the anti-trust legislation there would be no Apple today and probably no Google - Microsoft would have killed them outright (like the romans did with the greeks).
What we all must understand is Microsoft is continuing it's expansion - let's be in no doubt of that - I say why trust Microsoft over Google - at least Google is partnered with Apple and has demonstrated itself to be a company with some integrity.
Better still just leave Yahoo alone - let them be a company in their own right instead of going straight for a 'easy fast bucks' from the guy with the fattest wallet on the planet (MSFT)
(Sit's back and waits for Microsofts 'one day macrumors members' from their PR army to appear and start firebombing the thread)
Microsoft already accomplished total global domination and so all they can do is acquire, assimilate and destroy anything that represents a future threat to that empire.
That's the ONLY game left they can play - since they have already won and have near total ownership of the global desktop. They can only control 'uprisings' - which is exactly what Google and Yahoo are (and Apple for that matter)
Yahoo is simply another country to be conquered, assimilated and routed for assets. They don't really care what they accomplish with Yahoo as long as they are 'dealt with'
What is really nuts is when people say Google is a monopoly as if it's a valid defense for Microsoft acquiring YET another 'virtual territory'.
To continue the parallel of the Roman Empire ;
Microsoft acquiring Yahoo is like a new life sustaining planet mysteriously arriving in our solar system and not content with 'total ownership of earth' Microsoft want 'Epsilon' too...except Google have near total global domination of 'Epsilon' except for Yahoo who are also on 'that planet'. What's happening here is Microsoft are about to invade 'Epsilon' using Yahoo as it's first country of occupation on the new planet.
Let's be brutally honest here if it wasn't for the anti-trust legislation there would be no Apple today and probably no Google - Microsoft would have killed them outright (like the romans did with the greeks).
What we all must understand is Microsoft is continuing it's expansion - let's be in no doubt of that - I say why trust Microsoft over Google - at least Google is partnered with Apple and has demonstrated itself to be a company with some integrity.
Better still just leave Yahoo alone - let them be a company in their own right instead of going straight for a 'easy fast bucks' from the guy with the fattest wallet on the planet (MSFT)
(Sit's back and waits for Microsofts 'one day macrumors members' from their PR army to appear and start firebombing the thread)
Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc. are all big companies... and they are all out to make a profit. As a rule, I try to support the underdog as far as possible:
MP3 players: No Apple, Creative or Microsoft. I'll take a Cowon or iRiver
OS: Bye-bye Windows. When the updated MBP comes out, I'll switch
Search Engine: I prefer Google better, but I try to use some Yahoo and even Microsoft.
Allowing any company to become a monopoly is something that will eventually come back to bite us.
MP3 players: No Apple, Creative or Microsoft. I'll take a Cowon or iRiver
OS: Bye-bye Windows. When the updated MBP comes out, I'll switch
Search Engine: I prefer Google better, but I try to use some Yahoo and even Microsoft.
Allowing any company to become a monopoly is something that will eventually come back to bite us.
There are people there who are looking at it from a strictly strategic, monetary point of view. From a preference standpoint, there are some anti-MS comments there, too.Engadget comment said:
What you term bias, some people call experience. They've experienced Microsoft.
We'll all get our chance to "experience" google in the same way, don't you worry.
