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Serious question, is there a secure email available? I don't like my Gmail, not because of Google, because of the interface. I just don't like it. I have one hotmail and don't use since I have similar accounts on Yahoo. After the breach i was looking to move everything. Even more so now.

Try protonmail.com
 
This is why it's important to be able to say "we are physically and technologically unable to comply with your demand to read our user's messages - we don't have access to their encryption keys."

But email is a 1970's technology and is not built around a notion of security and encryption. It needs to be interoperable.. The best they've achieved so far is enforcing encrypted connections between servers, when possible. The data on the servers themselves is likely stored in plain-text format. Research any email system and you'll see this is how they work, unless a database is used to store messages, and then an encryption protocol can be enforced on that. But at the end of the day, the ISP (or Apple or Yahoo! or whomever) would need to hold the keys to that encryption in order for the system to work. So it's moot from a standpoint of government requests.
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Serious question, is there a secure email available? I don't like my Gmail, not because of Google, because of the interface. I just don't like it. I have one hotmail and don't use since I have similar accounts on Yahoo. After the breach i was looking to move everything. Even more so now.

I switched to Runbox last year when Google Apps dropped the free option. While I enjoyed Google's reliable email system, the email scanning and ad-serving never sat well with me. So when it was time to choose a new email provider, I went with one that puts privacy first.

runbox.com (based out of Norway)
 
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Call me crazy but there's no doubt in my mind that others have done it as well. Especially G!

I think you just have to assume at this point that everything you do online is being spied on by someone or other.
 
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But email is a 1970's technology and is not built around a notion of security and encryption. It needs to be interoperable.. The best they've achieved so far is enforcing encrypted connections between servers, when possible. The data on the servers themselves is likely stored in plain-text format. Research any email system and you'll see this is how they work, unless a database is used to store messages, and then an encryption protocol can be enforced on that. But at the end of the day, the ISP (or Apple or Yahoo! or whomever) would need to hold the keys to that encryption in order for the system to work. So it's moot from a standpoint of government requests.
Thanks for the suggestion to do some research, but I understand far better than you might guess, precisely how SMTP servers, MUAs and MTAs interoperate. Spent many years dealing with configuration of Sendmail and Postfix servers, including a lot of digging around in the source code. PGP (and offshoots) and S/MIME are the best tech available for email encryption, last I paid attention; and end-to-end is the only really trustworthy encryption. My original point stands: this kind of thing is why it's better to be able to say, "we are not able to hand over information requested because we don't have the encryption keys." Customer-owned data which companies have cleartext access to is a substantial liability. I didn't say there was an obvious simple answer for email encryption.
 
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if you have NOTHING to hide, then what is the problem?

/S

The problem is that we have a right to privacy, and no provider or country agency should interfere with my data. Having something to hide is not the point when discussing privacy.
 
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Typically, women CEO’s are hugely successful when they lead female-centric companies that provide products or services for women. They are less likely to excel in environments that are testosterone-driven, unless they pretend to think and act like a man (and wear pant suits to blend in). Still, I don’t have much sympathy for Marissa Mayer and Carly Fiorina. Both allowed the media to portray them as super star female leaders before they proved to be that. A mistake that only perpetuates the myth that women have to be exceptional to have abilities comparable to men.
If you want to see a company with a really terrific female leader, look at Adafruit and Limor Fried (aka LadyAda). Very well known and highly respected in the Maker Community and the up-and-coming world of IoT / Internet of Things. Runs a great company that does a lot of education and outreach, as well as making really good parts for electronics experimenters. And a terrific example of what can be done by a company founded by a woman, rather than one where the all-male board of directors hands the reins over to a woman right after the iceberg had been spotted dead ahead. I want LadyAda to be a role model for my nieces when they get a bit older.
 
The problem is that we have a right to privacy, and no provider or country agency should interfere with my data. Having something to hide is not the point when discussing privacy.
The /S at the end of that user's comment signifies the post was to be read in a sarcastic manner.
 
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The problem is that we have a right to privacy, and no provider or country agency should interfere with my data. Having something to hide is not the point when discussing privacy.
I don't care, only terrorist have something to hide, are you a terrorist? how DARE YOU say you have a right to privacy? what is your real name & address? I am going to send you to re-education camp, just get in the black van with the tinted windows :D

question is , what to do about it? boycott Yahoo?
 
Come on Dude, this is a really bad comment. Still wondering why your post hasn't been removed yet.
Removed? Why does something have to be removed because you disagree with it? I don't really agree with what he said but it's barely offensive. He didn't call anyone names. Remove it? Cmon now.
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reported for blatant sexism.
Reported? We report people now that have different opinions?

The thought police are exactly the danger that comes to mind when the government wants to read all your emails...
 
Sexist much?

Corruption and evil do not have gender or age my friend!!!

As someone who strongly supports equal pay and opportunities for women, I agree.

However, it IS unfortunate that some of the most high profile female executives in recent years have proven to be both incompetent and cavalier towards the welfare of employees and customers. Aside from Marissa Meyer, that list also includes Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman, Ellen Pao, and Heather Bresch.

I wonder if the corporate workplace is in such a state that only the most ruthless and Machiavellian women are given the opportunity to rise to the executive ranks, and/or if boards of directors are more inclined to promote women to such positions when the company is already in a dire, nigh hopeless state, making them a convenient scapegoat for years of mismanagement.

I'm thankful that our first black president was someone as qualified and dignified as Obama, and not some right-wing ass clown like Alan West, Herman Cain, or Ben Carson.
 
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No, if you google their name with IMAP there's a page that discusses that.

Try protonmail.com

But email is a 1970's technology and is not built around a notion of security and encryption. It needs to be interoperable.. The best they've achieved so far is enforcing encrypted connections between servers, when possible. The data on the servers themselves is likely stored in plain-text format. Research any email system and you'll see this is how they work, unless a database is used to store messages, and then an encryption protocol can be enforced on that. But at the end of the day, the ISP (or Apple or Yahoo! or whomever) would need to hold the keys to that encryption in order for the system to work. So it's moot from a standpoint of government requests.
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I switched to Runbox last year when Google Apps dropped the free option. While I enjoyed Google's reliable email system, the email scanning and ad-serving never sat well with me. So when it was time to choose a new email provider, I went with one that puts privacy first.

runbox.com (based out of Norway)

Thanks guys. I'm definitely going to look into these.
 
If you're not using Google search, you're using Gmail, Chrome browser, Android phone, Google Maps, Google app on your iPhone, Google Photos.

  • Google Search - sometimes, but with ad blockers, no login, and frequent clearing of cookies
  • Gmail - yes, but only for order confirmations, etc. Never use email for private communications.
  • Chrome browser - NOPE
  • Android phone - NOPE
  • Google Maps - NOPE
  • Google Photos - NOPE
  • Google apps - NOPE
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BFD
Anyone who uses email for nefarious purposes is a moron.

Think of email as living in a glass house. Cuz that's what it is. Every keystroke we make on our computer is essentially logged. To believe otherwise is foolish.

Better metaphor: think of email messages as postcards.
 
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But email is a 1970's technology and is not built around a notion of security and encryption. It needs to be interoperable.. The best they've achieved so far is enforcing encrypted connections between servers, when possible. The data on the servers themselves is likely stored in plain-text format.

There is an interoperable secure email extension: S/MIME.

You'll need an email client that supports it, like Outlook or Thunderbird. The extension supports both encryption and digital signatures.
 
LOL, I guess you're being sarcastic.

Just look at Forbes list. Women accounts for less than 5%. And from those 5%, 95% of them inherited the money. And if you look up that tiny "self-made" percentage, they didn't had anything to do with the company when it was founded.

And the percentage of men on the Forbes list who are self-made founders of companies?
 
I've said this before, if I could use my iCloud email as my one and only Apple ID I would ditch my other email clients in the blink of an eye. Don't know what's been taking Apple more than 4 years.

This. Wayyy back when before iCloud existed, I used my yahoo address for my iTunes Store account. My whole purchased library is under the yahoo ID instead of iCloud. If Apple could merge the account into my iCloud account, I could transition away from yahoo. Otherwise I would have to abandon thousands of dollars worth of purchased content to switch over.
 
No doubt Mr. Cook and company have let the Mac line languish, lamentably.

Yet, to his credit, he seems to genuinely appreciate and respect our 4th Amendment.
 
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