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yeah, so lion broke my iMac

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tommy060289

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Ok so maybe it's not quivering box of silicon but as much as I love some of the new features, there are three very obvious problems, one of which could have serious consequences if your unlucky.

1. The most serious problem, Apple has changed the permissions required for a NAS to work with time machine so quite a large portion of NAS drives don't work with time machine until a firmware update is published to bring them up to date! This is one of the most annoying things as a. If something goes wrong I'm screwed and b. I can't move back in the time machine to recover something that will be explained after the break...

2. I was completely unaware that once you've updated to lion, you can't get the the files required to make a bootable USB drive so I'm going to have to have another 8 hour download session, joy...

3. When my time machine first error'd I thought Id try repairing the disk permissions and it seems all hell has broke loose in there. I repair a great chunk of error that appear to be:

Permissions differ on “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Support/Remote Desktop Message.app/Contents/Resources/pl.lproj/UIAgent.nib”; should be -rw-r--r-- ; they are drw-r--r-- .

Repaired “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Support/Remote Desktop Message.app/Contents/Resources/pl.lproj/UIAgent.nib”

and similar things except that at the end I get this:

Warning: SUID file “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent” has been modified and will not be repaired.

and if I run repair disk permission again it just fixes the same errors over again so it is clearly not repairing them, I'm not sure what problem these are creating yet but no doubt something will crop up soon that is related...
 
I would for now if my back ups worked...

right now I'm debating wether to run the snow leopard disks that came and then restoring from back up or just waiting it out for the bugs to be ironed out.

Im trying to figure out what errors the remote management is causing but I can't right now:(
 
The main errors I see are Apple Remote Desktop errors, not TM errors.
I don't know what else to say on your other points. There is the repair partition that will work for most users. The power users all seemed to know to make a copy of the installer before installing. Or at the vary least a bootable USB drive. Sorry your install is not working. The NAS was a known issue as well.
 
mine are remote desktop errors to. Has anyone found a fix yet or is it just awaiting patching from apple?

As for the time machine errors I'm surprised the manufacturers haven't got new firmware out already as they must have known this for a while!
 
tommy060289 said:
mine are remote desktop errors to. Has anyone found a fix yet or is it just awaiting patching from apple?

As for the time machine errors I'm surprised the manufacturers haven't got new firmware out already as they must have known this for a while!
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Oh, sorry, I meant I see from your post. I had no install issues.
 
ahhh, no worries, anyone got any idea on a fix for the remote desktop error?
 
No 'problem'

There's not really anything 'wrong'; the

Warning: SUID file “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent” has been modified and will not be repaired.

has been happening since Leopard and the only thing to do is ignore it; everything still works, and Apple knows about it and doesn't consider it a priority.

The other ones, you'll note, are all .nib files, which might actually be considered directories, since they are interface builder 'archives'...so Disk Utility is seeing them as directories and trying to set new permissions for them, but can't really do so, because it can't really declare them *not* to be directories (you'll note in your example that the only difference in -rw-r--r-- and drw-r--r-- is that 'd' for 'directory' at the beginning; thus, the permissions were already correct, but Disk Utility isn't 'getting it'; Disk Utility, it seems, has not been fully updated, either, to reflect the fact that you can now repair the startup disk without having to boot from the non-existent Lion install disk).

I hope this is helpful. I am not really a UNIX guy, nor do I play one on TV...but I've had to play one in various rooms of the house over the last few years trying to fix things (and often breaking them far worse before the fix becomes apparent!).

Eric
 
I just noticed this too while checking my permissions.
Is there anything I can do to fix this?
 
This was a non problem several versions back also

I think it was Tiger that had this issue for some time before Apple updated the disk utility. Here is a link from Apples website explaining these are not errors. You will note a couple of things. It's referring to these error's in 10.5 and 10.6, but the article was updated with new examples in June of 2011, so Apple has added some Lion errors to the list by the look of things.

http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1448
 
tommy060289 said:
1. The most serious problem, Apple has changed the permissions required for a NAS to work with time machine so quite a large portion of NAS drives don't work with time machine until a firmware update is published to bring them up to date! This is one of the most annoying things as a. If something goes wrong I'm screwed and b. I can't move back in the time machine to recover something that will be explained after the break...
Click to expand...

So what did the NAS vendor say when you contacted them and asked them when they would update their firmware? You did contact them, right?
 
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What NAS do you have? ReadyNAS firmware has been upgraded for Lion so it can be done. They only released a beta version for the Duo series but it's been fine. I delayed upgrading for a month or so

I'm now looking at further upgrading my backup routine with an external drive to store off site.
 
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