Are you going to return it?
Are there any new iPhones that dont have this problem...
Looks like I might have to get the 11 pro max
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iPhone 12 Pro Yellow Screen/Tint? Display seem "Warm"? Check here first!
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Are there any new iPhones that dont have this problem...
Looks like I might have to get the 11 pro max
Kai Hawaii
macrumors member
Does your Serial Number start with G6TDQ... ?
Mine does and it was the best display out of 3 other Iphone12 i tested.
95% similar to my IPhoneX (which had really perfect white colors).
Also i noticed in the first 2 weeks there were more „yellow“ displays in the apple store,
But now those are gone. Iphone12 Pro Max still seems to be more yellow than IPhone 12 displays in average.
I would like to return, I wanted to return the old one, but it looks better and it is still yellow compared to the iPhone 11 and iPhone X
After being mocked (desrved) for posting a screenshot, I take this pic here from the camera on my S7+ (I don't have a compact camera).
For sure I expect a lot people laughing as before saying my display is sxxt nevertheless, but I post anyway for my sake of comprehension. Before taking this shot I compared the display in full brightness of my 12PM with the S7+ which has as said one of the best if not the best amoled in the 2020 market. That said, the display of the S7 compared side by side (I can't take a pic cause I don't have a third camera🙂) appears to be less white than the display of my iphone. I am a bit lost here...but for sure, based on my own eyes see, I am happy with it.
Thanks everybody for sharing your opinions, there is a lot to learn from more expert people.
For sure I expect a lot people laughing as before saying my display is sxxt nevertheless, but I post anyway for my sake of comprehension. Before taking this shot I compared the display in full brightness of my 12PM with the S7+ which has as said one of the best if not the best amoled in the 2020 market. That said, the display of the S7 compared side by side (I can't take a pic cause I don't have a third camera🙂) appears to be less white than the display of my iphone. I am a bit lost here...but for sure, based on my own eyes see, I am happy with it.
Thanks everybody for sharing your opinions, there is a lot to learn from more expert people.
I keep seeing the dxomark article referenced here. From that article:
"12 Pro Max is strongly yellow - something that can be seen in all tested conditions and in video as well as still imagery — and this impacted the score. Our engineers also found the brightness levels a bit dim, especially in low-light situations, and the blue light filter adds a strong orange cast and a dimness that impacts readability"
"though with the caveat that there is a strong yellow cast to both video and still imagery— a consistent characteristic of the Apple devices our display team has tested to this point."
Dxomark doesn't make it out to be some problem that needs fixing, but rather just a characteristic of the screens this year.
Edit: this also doesn't mean there's not a consistency problem with a small subset of users, but it should help show that even the experts don't necessarily consider this a major problem that Apple has to fix...
"12 Pro Max is strongly yellow - something that can be seen in all tested conditions and in video as well as still imagery — and this impacted the score. Our engineers also found the brightness levels a bit dim, especially in low-light situations, and the blue light filter adds a strong orange cast and a dimness that impacts readability"
"though with the caveat that there is a strong yellow cast to both video and still imagery— a consistent characteristic of the Apple devices our display team has tested to this point."
Dxomark doesn't make it out to be some problem that needs fixing, but rather just a characteristic of the screens this year.
Edit: this also doesn't mean there's not a consistency problem with a small subset of users, but it should help show that even the experts don't necessarily consider this a major problem that Apple has to fix...
maka344
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I don't think you can to be honest. I admit that photo looks like a nice crisp white screen to my eyes (looks like the brightness is turned up some). But cameras mess with the colors. When I had my 12p next to my Xr on my desk, the 12p was noticeably more yellow. But as soon as I tried to photo it (with my wife's 11), the photo made the 12p look whiter, and the Xr look more pinkish.
Phone Junky
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neomaster
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atxyde
macrumors regular
That is the problem right there. How can you determine that the problem is with a "small subset of users"? There is no way to know this. You are diminishing a problem because you think that is a small subset of users. Or do you work at Apple and know this from facts? How can you determine this? This is a subjective issue that requires a comparison between other displays and what is perceived as correct or not.
I don't think that apple intended a different color profile only for the iPhones 12 than other new Apple products such as the new MBP M1 which is similar to my iPhone X when TT is off and similar to a professionally calibrated monitor for video editing.
Does this problem only happen when True Tone is on? When True Tone is off is the screen white?
I would say when true tone is off the screen is more blue and cooler - it's still not a clean white like most would think a clean white should look.
That's a fair point, but you could swing that the other way as well? You "think" Apple didn't intend this. I "think" Apple did. It's a fact, no matter which side you're on, that the 12 line of iPhones are more yellow (or "less white") than the previous models. The evidence to the contrary is so small compared to the mountain of evidence otherwise that I think that's a safe conclusion at this point.
If we want to get anecdotal, within my family alone, we've had two 12 Pro's, two Mini's, and two regular 12's. All from different retail sources, all ranging from the release date until this past week. Every single one of them has a screen that looks more yellow than previous models. You have reviewers and experts stating the same. You have "display experts" observing the same. And yet not one of them has jumped off this cliff stating it's some sort of chronic problem that needs a fix. It's just the way they did it this year, generally speaking.
My issue isn't the subjectivity of the matter, or whether or not there's a little inconsistency. My issue is, as someone else stated earlier, the "get your pitchforks out!" attitude of this thread from the start. The reason I think this is blown way out of proportion is because of the inherent nature in how a problem like this flows.
- Sensationalized post about yellow screens
- People get new phone and the screen looks more yellow to them
- They google it and find a thread like this and think, "omg me too!"
- Because essentially every iPhone 12 is like this, the forum "beast" feeds itself, perpetuating the hype
- In actuality, most people complaining about this "issue" have a phone that is simply less white because that's how Apple made them this year
In a few months if Apple comes out with some sort of recall, then I'll eat my words. But the more likely outcome will be one of two things. Either Apple will silently "address" this by tweaking True Tone to be a little less warm, addressing the "problem" for most people. Or people will simply stop comparing to their older/other phones and get used to it.
Sorry, that got way too long...
atxyde
macrumors regular
I can understand your point, but in my case what I don't think that Apple intended for inconsistent white balance between iPhones 12, even between the same model. I never use TT or Filter, or NS. I like/need a consistent display between all my devices since I like to edit photos with Lightroom and compare them on multiple devices. To get anecdotal as you, I have compared multiple iPhones, 12 Pro and Pro Max. There are not the same displays. Even with the TT off, some of them are more yellow than others, and some of them are similar in white balance or cool as my iPhone X. So, I'm the only one that had the "luck" to witness the unique iPhones with these inconsistencies? Yes, Apple may have set for a warmer white balance this year, but I think the manufacturing process screwed up the calibration and the QA process was relaxed enough to keep the high demand.
Micaltech
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Can you guys test something for me, search for a message in the mail app across all mailboxes then open one of the found items. My screen is grey and dim except for the found message, is yours the same?
Edit: 14.3 and the issue does not appear in screenshots, third pic is screenshot showing it should all be the same color...
Edit: 14.3 and the issue does not appear in screenshots, third pic is screenshot showing it should all be the same color...
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ghosttrooper
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Bonjour à tous,
j'ai suivi un peu votre échange sur ce fameux écran d'iPhone qui est très mauvais cette année, il faut bien l'avouer.
J'ai moi-même acheté un iPhone 12 sur le site AUCHAN.fr (mes amis français le reconnaîtront) et devinez quoi? L'écran tirait fortement vers le jaune.
C'est assez dérangeant pour quelqu'un comme moi qui travaille avec l'application Lightroom sur mon téléphone pour faire de la retouche photo.
J'ai donc décidé d'aller dans un Apple Store ou l'un des employés pour comparer le mien avec le sien et à notre grande surprise, le sien était d'un blanc parfait et magnifique contrairement au mien qui était jaune et terne… Je vous ai mis une photo que j'ai prise because it was amazing. Comme vous le verrez avec un réglage identique, son écran n'a rien à voir avec le mien.
Alors pour tous ceux qui disent que c'est une volonté de pomme de rendre les écrans plus chauds cette année, je ne suis pas d'accord, sinon pourquoi y a-t-il des iPhone avec un bel écran bien calibré et lumineux?
Enfin, j'ai procédé à un échange que je viens de recevoir ce soir et ma foi je le trouve pas trop mal même comparé à mon iPhone 7 il est légèrement plus jaune.
Je vais essayer de faire une photo de comparaison du nouveau que j'ai reçu avec celui de l'employé Apple Store que je publierai sur le forum.
Je souligne également que les deux téléphones sur la photo portent le même numéro de série commençant par FF quelque chose et celui que je viens de recevoir également.
Ici j'ai aussi voulu partager mon expérience
j'ai suivi un peu votre échange sur ce fameux écran d'iPhone qui est très mauvais cette année, il faut bien l'avouer.
J'ai moi-même acheté un iPhone 12 sur le site AUCHAN.fr (mes amis français le reconnaîtront) et devinez quoi? L'écran tirait fortement vers le jaune.
C'est assez dérangeant pour quelqu'un comme moi qui travaille avec l'application Lightroom sur mon téléphone pour faire de la retouche photo.
J'ai donc décidé d'aller dans un Apple Store ou l'un des employés pour comparer le mien avec le sien et à notre grande surprise, le sien était d'un blanc parfait et magnifique contrairement au mien qui était jaune et terne… Je vous ai mis une photo que j'ai prise because it was amazing. Comme vous le verrez avec un réglage identique, son écran n'a rien à voir avec le mien.
Alors pour tous ceux qui disent que c'est une volonté de pomme de rendre les écrans plus chauds cette année, je ne suis pas d'accord, sinon pourquoi y a-t-il des iPhone avec un bel écran bien calibré et lumineux?
Enfin, j'ai procédé à un échange que je viens de recevoir ce soir et ma foi je le trouve pas trop mal même comparé à mon iPhone 7 il est légèrement plus jaune.
Je vais essayer de faire une photo de comparaison du nouveau que j'ai reçu avec celui de l'employé Apple Store que je publierai sur le forum.
Je souligne également que les deux téléphones sur la photo portent le même numéro de série commençant par FF quelque chose et celui que je viens de recevoir également.
Ici j'ai aussi voulu partager mon expérience
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ghosttrooper
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Dang that screen on the right is beautiful.
(Google Translate)
Dang que l'écran de droite est magnifique.
CuteLittleMiku
macrumors newbie
Google translates tells me that #4621 is in French. Here’s the translation to save you a click
“
Good morning all,
I followed your discussion a bit on this famous iPhone screen which is very bad this year, it must be admitted.
I myself bought an iPhone 12 on the AUCHAN.fr site (my French friends will recognize it) and guess what? The screen was very yellowish.
It's quite disturbing for someone like me who works with the Lightroom app on my phone to do photo editing.
So I decided to go to an Apple Store or one of the employees to compare mine with his and to our surprise, his was a perfect and beautiful white unlike mine which was yellow and dull ... I put you a photo that I took because it was amazing. As you will see with the same setting, its screen has nothing to do with mine.
So for all of those who say it's an Apple drive to make screens hotter this year, I don't agree, otherwise why are there iPhones with a nice, well-calibrated and bright screen?
Finally, I made an exchange that I just received this evening and my faith I find it not too bad even compared to my iPhone 7 it is slightly more yellow.
I will try to make a comparison photo of the new one I received with the one from the Apple Store employee that I will post on the forum.
I also point out that both phones in the photo have the same serial number starting with FF something and the one I just received as well.
Here I also wanted to share my experience”
“
Good morning all,
I followed your discussion a bit on this famous iPhone screen which is very bad this year, it must be admitted.
I myself bought an iPhone 12 on the AUCHAN.fr site (my French friends will recognize it) and guess what? The screen was very yellowish.
It's quite disturbing for someone like me who works with the Lightroom app on my phone to do photo editing.
So I decided to go to an Apple Store or one of the employees to compare mine with his and to our surprise, his was a perfect and beautiful white unlike mine which was yellow and dull ... I put you a photo that I took because it was amazing. As you will see with the same setting, its screen has nothing to do with mine.
So for all of those who say it's an Apple drive to make screens hotter this year, I don't agree, otherwise why are there iPhones with a nice, well-calibrated and bright screen?
Finally, I made an exchange that I just received this evening and my faith I find it not too bad even compared to my iPhone 7 it is slightly more yellow.
I will try to make a comparison photo of the new one I received with the one from the Apple Store employee that I will post on the forum.
I also point out that both phones in the photo have the same serial number starting with FF something and the one I just received as well.
Here I also wanted to share my experience”
this pic right here should prove to the peeps who say apple intentionally makes the displays to those on the left.
Yes I confirm for having seen it with my own eyes. For me all iPhone 12 should be like that. That’s what you expect when you buy APPLE products.