Yikes! Help!

stubeeef

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12" pb 1.25 running 10.3.9 has been hanging up all the time today. Rainbow balls forever.
repaired permissions 3 times, and have zapped pram, now can't even get to the desktop on the restart.
Could not get the pull down menu from the apple in the top left either.
Crap!
Suggestions?
 

Duff-Man

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Duff-Man says....well, the first thing that comes to mind is that a "contributor" with over 1750 posts ought to know a little better than to make a thread with a title so generic....

Have you done the other usual things - boot from your install cd and run disk utility or boot into single user and run fsck? .....oh yeah!
 

stubeeef

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running disk utility and repair permissions now from install disk...

could not get a safe mode start up either.

edit:sorry for the title, been busy, not thinking well, this lil pb is the hub of the home, with all the email etc...

edit2:wondering if this is normal, just getting a blue barber pole, no solid progress bar, been 5 min...
 

stubeeef

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tried running "repair disk" after using command + C with install disk in.

got
"repair volume failed with error could not unmount disk (-1000)"

then tried verify and got..
"verify volume failed with error could not unmount disk (-1000)"
 

stubeeef

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using repair disk permissions

just got this msg

First Aid failed

Disk Utility stopped repairing permissions on "Labtop HD" because the following error was encountered.

No Valid packages
 

Sun Baked

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If you cannot boot into single user mode (command-s) either to run fsck, then your drive will probably need the industrial repair utility.

When the catalog/file system gets fragged, safe mode usually won't help -- safe mode is usually good for fragged prefs, bad kext files, etc.

Safe mode is basically the OS X eq. of OS 9's booting with extensions off.
 

stubeeef

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Sun Baked said:
If you cannot boot into single user mode (command-s) either to run fsck, then your drive will probably need the industrial repair utility.

When the catalog/file system gets fragged, safe mode usually won't help -- safe mode is usually good for fragged prefs, bad kext files, etc.

Safe mode is basically the OS X eq. of OS 9's booting with extensions off.
DiskWarrior?
 

xsedrinam

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Sounds like your startup directory has been whacked. If you don't have DiskWarrior (should) to rebuild directory, an archive install is a pain and hopefully you have a .dmg of Combined 10.3.9 update which would take less time to get back, but that's another option.
P.S. You DID get your HD to show "verify" from Disk Utiltiy, right?
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stubeeef

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verify button was choseable, but nothing gave results, just the msgs of error, unmountable.
 

stubeeef

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dont want to lose this opportunity, somehow it booted to my desktop, any ideas for first run at it?
 

stubeeef

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disk util is finally running repair permissions....

edit:
gotten:
Permissions differ on ./library/colorsync/profiles, should be drwxrwxrwx, they are drwxrwxr-x
owner and group corrected on ./library/colorsync/profiles
Permissions corrected on ./library/colorsync/profiles

then got the usual cd9660.util with new permissions

Users differ on ./private/var/at/jobs, should be 0, owner is 1
owner and group corrected on ./private/var/at/jobs

Users differ on ./private/var/at/spool, should be 0, owner is 1
owner and group corrected on ./private/var/at/spool
permissions corrected on ./private/var/at/spool
 

Duff-Man

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Duff-Man says....*hopefully* you've got it licked but if I were you I would run a backup asap just to be sure, and buy a copy of Diskwarrior to run on it, and as mentioned above - get that hard drive's smart status checked out....oh yeah!
 

stubeeef

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haven't been able to read any smart status, booting again right now, going to try and grab the address book, and iphotos over to my eMac via wireless network now.
 

stubeeef

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crap, smarts came up this morning saying FAILING!

I have apple care, that is the good news, just hate this crap!
 

EGT

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:(

I hope you get it sorted out soon. If if were you, i'd cry!! This kind of thing really is my worst nightmare.

:mad:
 

xsedrinam

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stubeeef said:
crap, smarts came up this morning saying FAILING!
I have apple care, that is the good news, just hate this crap!
There have been some rare exceptions where the S.M.A.R.T - "failing" report was false, but by in large, it indicates your disk has troubles.

Whether or not you go out to buy DiskWarrior or TechTools or whether you choose to try an archive install, BACK UP ALL your important files immediately. Good luck.
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stubeeef

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Well, this is a good study in half assing things.

Goodnews,

APPLECARE!

Badnews

Poor backup routine

Goodnews

Haven't been putting pictures on it since christmas

Badnews

Lost a lot of emails
 

CanadaRAM

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Treat yourself to a goodly sized external Firewire drive
Install OSX on it so it will be bootable
Either try importing user data with the migration utility or just start up from the Firewire drive and then scavenge what you can from the internal drive
Once the machine is back with a new hard drive, you can use the Firewire drive for regular backups :eek:
 

stubeeef

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I have a 300gb external fw.

Just lazy routine, been a couple of months, but this laptop is for iTunes, iPhoto, Mail, internet.

I have a dual 450 and an eMac too. Using the eMac for primary one now till pb repaired.

Was going to get with a buddy 2 weeks ago and setup superduper, but alass the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I won't lose any music, just a few email addresses (was able to pull most recent plist from addressbook), 6 months of emails, (not a real biggie), and very few photos (haven't loaded any since thanksgiving-still on the card).

When the pb comes back with a new liver, I will rebuild it all in 2 days, have superduper being very super and have a nice time again. Harddrives fail, not mad at apple about it, that is why I bought applecare.

I will certainly update with any issues, hopefull there will be none to report!
 

xsedrinam

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It happens. A reminder why having AppleCare is just a good investment and looking to backup, regularly, is good practice. I'm overdue with backing up and am headed that way as soon as I can finish with the current project. Sort of Spring cleaning in mid Summer. :eek:
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