Yosemite 10.10.5 - TO High Sierra? Yes/no? Opinions?

Discussion in 'macOS High Sierra (10.13)' started by Sam5281, Oct 21, 2017.

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Upgrade Yosemite to High Sierra

Poll closed Oct 27, 2017.
  1. Yes

    13 vote(s)
    65.0%
  2. No

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  1. Sam5281, Oct 21, 2017
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    Sam5281 macrumors regular

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    As title states :

    A bit hesitant to do update? Only prompted as the newest update of lightroom does not seem compatible w/ Yosemite.

    On flip side - seeing a lot of negatives posts IE: Not being able to REVERT back to any old OS's once done

    Etc

    So just really trying to gather all info possible before I do.

    Thanks in advance guys!

    UPDATE:

    Thanks to help of forum advice ; successfully on Sierra all working well!
     
  2. CoastalOR macrumors 68020

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    Would Sierra (10.12.6) work for you with the new Lightroom? If yes, then I would choose to install Sierra and give High Sierra more time to work out some of the bugs.

    If you do want to proceed with High Sierra then make sure you have good backups in case you have to revert back to Yosemite or lose some data during the update. I would also recommend have a bootable Yosemite USB installer ready if needed for recovering from a possible HS problem.
     
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  4. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    At the moment only High Sierra is available for me in App Store. Did not ever download Sierra. Apparently I’m stuck now, need to look into accessing Sierra installer.

    And yes, will be making a bootable Yosemite prior to to have at access on a flash drive.

    Haven’t had any issues w / Yosemite to be honest? Don’t know why I’d go to Cap- only update I’d consider now is Sierra preferably.
     
  5. CoastalOR macrumors 68020

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    Here are links to downloads of full installer apps from Apple for El Capitan & Sierra:
    El Capitan:
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206886
    https://itunes.apple.com/app/os-x-el-capitan/id1147835434?mt=12

    Sierra:
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208202
    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/macos-sierra/id1127487414?mt=12
     
  6. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    AMAZING! Thank you so much for this, was having extremely hard time locating.

    Just to clarify/ people are experiencing problems reverting back to older OSs from High Sierra? Or Sierra as well? Know there’s a formatting change that occurs
     
  7. dogslobber macrumors 68040

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    El Cap is like Snow Leopard in terms of stability and reception. Y. and Sierra not so much and El Cap is still supported by Apple.
     
  8. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    At this moment I vote to upgrade to Sierra. After few updates, High Sierra should be fine. At this moment HS is a mess, unluckily for those of us who upgraded. Not worth taking a chance. Sierra seems to work really well at this time on all my macs.
     
  9. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Helpful. Got some flash drives coming in hot

    Solid. Good to know - this is where I'll probably end up as I was concerned Sierra re-wrote file formats like HS does
     
  10. CoastalOR, Oct 22, 2017
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    High Sierra is more difficult to revert back from because it changes the file format to the new APFS automatically if your boot drive is a SSD. Sierra and below OS use the HFS file format.
    Here is a link to instructions on how to revert back/downgrade from HS to a older OS:
    https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-remove-macos-high-sierra-downgrade-3581872/
    http://osxdaily.com/2017/10/12/downgrade-macos-high-sierra/
     
  11. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Got that, solid info thank you for the clarification. Will absolutely hold off on HS momentarily. Have some flash drives I’ll be making boots of later, and then most likely to Sierra.
     
  12. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    OP:

    See that you mentioned it post 11 above, but I will reiterate:

    Your "best chance of success" in upgrading will probably come IF you create a bootable USB flash drive and install from that.

    Also:
    If what you have on your internal drive is important to you, I would suggest that you use either CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper (both are free to download and use for 30 days) to create a BOOTABLE CLONED BACKUP of your current internal drive BEFORE you attempt the upgrade.

    If for any reason things go bad on you, having a cloned backup makes it EASY to "get back to where you once belonged":
    a. boot from cloned backup
    b. re-initialize internal drive
    c. RE-cloned cloned backup BACK TO internal drive.
     
  13. Mac Hammer Fan macrumors 6502a

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    I suppose this will only work with Sierra, not with El Capitan or Yosemite, as disk utility can't recognize an APFS-volume. Or am I wrong?
     
  14. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Not exactly sure what it is your asking?
     
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    I would also recommend to update to Sierra. I was on El Capitan until Sierra 10.12.6 was available. I had to upgrade to get the current version of Xcode. So far I'm happy with Sierra, and I will probably never upgrade to High Sierra, because I still heavily rely on Bootcamp Windows and Parallels VM. I need to be able to read HFS+ from Windows.
     
  16. jwolf6589 macrumors 68000

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    High Sierra is an awesome update! It has definitely sped up my Mac with a conventional HD.
    --- Post Merged, Oct 23, 2017 ---
    Why not? High Sierra is much faster and speeds up your Mac. I have noticed a drastic difference in my situation. I am using Boot Camp in High Sierra with no problems.
     
  17. Mac Hammer Fan macrumors 6502a

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    Only a Sierra partition can see an APFS formatted volume. The previous systems can't. So if you upgrade on an SSD from El Capitan or Yosemite, you can't downgrade. Or am I wrong?
     
  18. Jaekae macrumors 6502a

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    yosemite is horrible, install sierra if you want the most stable one, then wait some months and install high sierra, but high sierra has the best performance in lightroom because metal 2
     
  19. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Which model Mac/Screen Size/year are you using to download El Capitan (I hesitate to assume it is the MBP in your sig - which does not have the year)?
     
  21. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Late 2013 15" MBP Ret

    The Sierra went fine from link provided (haven't installed it yet)
     
  22. CoastalOR macrumors 68020

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    A 2013 MBP will definitely support El Capitan?
    Have you rebooted your MBP since the Sierra download and auto launch of the Sierra installer App? Have you removed the Sierra install app from your Applications folder?
     
  23. Sam5281 thread starter macrumors regular

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    El capitan was attempted prior to Sierra - prompting same message in app store that it is now...
     
  24. CoastalOR macrumors 68020

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    I'm not sure what the issue is. The links I provided were originally for people that were on Snow Leopard or could not upgrade to Sierra (El Capitan was their max OS). Maybe that is the problem.

    I would suggest just giving Sierra a try. Make sure you have a good backup before installing any OS so you have a recovery path if needed.
     
  25. Mac Hammer Fan macrumors 6502a

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    I wouldn't advice to upgrade to High Sierra at this moment. Too many bugs. The advantages of Sierra and El Capitan vs Yosemite is that they get security updates. However there can be compatibility problems with older software. My printer Canon 540 Pixma doesn't work anymore, I can't save as reduced size in Acrobat Pro (unless i save the file on an usb stick) and under Sierra I can't open using Office 2011 some old complex Word documents with many graphics and equations and FileMaker Pro 10 quits unexpectedly. Parallels 11 luckily runs on 10.11 and 10.12. I don't want to upgrade because for 6 cores it's too expensive.
     

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