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You Sicken me

Lil Chillbil

Lil Chillbil

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I was wondering as a hardcore apple fan why the heck would anybody want to run windows on a mac. I personaly love the apple software i'm running 10.4.11 on my Powermac g4 with upgraded 1 gig of ram and an 80 gig hardrive. But seriously it kinda gives me a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach at the thought of powering on a mac only to see the horror of pc software 😱. Keep in mind this is not an attack on the hackintosh comunity I just want to know why. 😕
 
I prefer using OSX, but there are a number of reasons I run Win7 through VMware, a few of which are:

Proprietary company software that only runs on Windows
Strict compatibility for MS Office in sharing docs/spreadsheets/presentations
Software I already own a license for in Windows

Others have similar reasons, even if they prefer OSX
 
I'm sure OP is like me--no work requirements for Windows and no Windows programs I need to run for personal use so no need to run Windows on my Mac--no need for two OS when one will suffice.
 
I'm a big fan of the Apple hardware but I prefer to use Windows over OS X, even though I find OS X to be very good too. Apple give me the best of both worlds by allowing me to boot into one or the other 🙂
 
Grannyville7989 said:
I'm a big fan of the Apple hardware but I prefer to use Windows over OS X, even though I find OS X to be very good too. Apple give me the best of both worlds by allowing me to boot into one or the other 🙂
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I am the opposite of you, I can not get used to Windows once I had my hands on MacOSX. I can multitask a lot more when I am using MacOSX. Nonetheless, the stability of MacOSX is better than any windows ( However W7 is ok but still the usability fails in my hands and eyes).

What I hate the most is that there many MacOSX users just buying an Apple hardware for ' Hey, I have a macbook, so I am cool!'. In addition, they do not know a thing about MacOSX features. Just give them Linux in an Apple computer and they are happy aswell.
 
To be honest, Windows 7 is not that bad.

Also, most games are not compatible with OS X, so Mac users who are into gaming have to install Windows.
 
Grannyville7989 said:
I'm a big fan of the Apple hardware but I prefer to use Windows over OS X, even though I find OS X to be very good too. Apple give me the best of both worlds by allowing me to boot into one or the other 🙂
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I'm not religious about the OS. It's just that I work so much with Windows applications that it woulnd't make sense for me to use MacOS + the obvious Windows VM. I think that's not really elegant if all you need is to run Windows applications and don't much care about the MacOS part.

I'm sure that MacOS is nice but I don't have any issues with Windows at all so why deal with two operating systems at once? If it only were for private use I think I would go for a MBP and use MacOS all the way. But as I work in the IT business and I deal with Windows infrastructures and applications every day it just doesn't make sense.

But I'm still quite disappointed by PC hardware, that's why I'm looking into a MBP.

What are the tradeoffs of running Windows 7 on a MBP vs. a "native" install on, say a Lenovo Thinkpad? Does it really make sense to get a MBP only to run Windows?

Thinking about replacing my Lenovo T400s with either a T430s or a MBP 2012. I love my thinkpad, it's just that the displays are crap. And it seems like the new ones still have crappy TN-displays. It's so frustrating... the MBP 2012 on the other hand promises to have a great display but I'm not really into the whole MacOS thing for the reasons mentioned before. I guess the Thinkpad would be the most practical choice for me.
 
GoodOne said:
I'm not religious about the OS. It's just that I work so much with Windows applications that it woulnd't make sense for me to use MacOS + the obvious Windows VM. I think that's not really elegant if all you need is to run Windows applications and don't much care about the MacOS part.

I'm sure that MacOS is nice but I don't have any issues with Windows at all so why deal with two operating systems at once? If it only were for private use I think I would go for a MBP and use MacOS all the way. But as I work in the IT business and I deal with Windows infrastructures and applications every day it just doesn't make sense.

But I'm still quite disappointed by PC hardware, that's why I'm looking into a MBP.

What are the tradeoffs of running Windows 7 on a MBP vs. a "native" install on, say a Lenovo Thinkpad? Does it really make sense to get a MBP only to run Windows?

Thinking about replacing my Lenovo T400s with either a T430s or a MBP 2012. I love my thinkpad, it's just that the displays are crap. And it seems like the new ones still have crappy TN-displays. It's so frustrating... the MBP 2012 on the other hand promises to have a great display but I'm not really into the whole MacOS thing for the reasons mentioned before. I guess the Thinkpad would be the most practical choice for me.
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I have a T420 for work.
The display is two steps higher than crap.
However, at work and home the docking stations turn the machine into a dual monitor desktop without having to disconnect or reconnect a signle device.
 
I am sorry for sickening you 😱 😀

Back to the O.P since my school is pretty much based on windows and there are sometimes cases when the software the school supplies is windows only so I sometimes can't do it any other way.
 
bruinsrme said:
I have a T420 for work.
The display is two steps higher than crap.
However, at work and home the docking stations turn the machine into a dual monitor desktop without having to disconnect or reconnect a signle device.
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Yeah, I run my T400s also with a docking station to my 23" Eizo (IPS) monitor. Another benefit with a Thinkpad compared to a MBP unless you go with with a Thunderbolt Display or one of those Thunderbolt docks appear.

Well crap may be a little too harsh but it's disappointing. I mean the t400s display is Ok in terms of resolution but the black level is reeeeally bad and colours aren't good either especially if you put it against an IPS-panel.

If only Lenovo put good IPS panels in there I would be perfectly satisfied.
 
GoodOne said:
Yeah, I run my T400s also with a docking station to my 23" Eizo (IPS) monitor. Another benefit with a Thinkpad compared to a MBP unless you go with with a Thunderbolt Display or one of those Thunderbolt docks appear.

Well crap may be a little too harsh but it's disappointing. I mean the t400s display is Ok in terms of resolution but the black level is reeeeally bad and colours aren't good either especially if you put it against an IPS-panel.

If only Lenovo put good IPS panels in there I would be perfectly satisfied.
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crap is appropriate 😀
 
Lil Chillbil said:
I was wondering as a hardcore apple fan why the heck would anybody want to run windows on a mac. I personaly love the apple software i'm running 10.4.11 on my Powermac g4 with upgraded 1 gig of ram and an 80 gig hardrive. But seriously it kinda gives me a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach at the thought of powering on a mac only to see the horror of pc software 😱. Keep in mind this is not an attack on the hackintosh comunity I just want to know why. 😕
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Because computers are tools used to do a job, not a religion.

If your usage requires Windows then so be it.
 
Lil Chillbil said:
Keep in mind this is not an attack on the hackintosh comunity I just want to know why. 😕
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Wait, this is a hacintosh community? Doesn't that one actually mean people who are running OS X on their non-apple pc's and not people who are running Windows on their mac's? Also, if that isn't an attack on this community, why start a thread where you tell us that we are sickening you?
 
bobr1952 said:
I'm sure OP is like me--no work requirements for Windows and no Windows programs I need to run for personal use so no need to run Windows on my Mac--no need for two OS when one will suffice.
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Many are likely in the same boat; however, I don't think I've ever allowed someone who runs windows on their mac to actually "sicken" me.

Such dramatics.
 
When I work on the Android platform sometimes I just "need" windows. Example: I need to copy a large number of PNG files from different folders into a number of different APKs and its just easier in Windows. I wish it wasn't but it just is.. I have Windows 7 x64 on my iMac (bootcamp) but not my MacBook Pro. Don't really need it on both.
 
Sorry to sicken you

I originally put Windows XP in Boot Camp because I needed it for work. Now that I'm not working I still help others who use it, so I'd better keep myself limber, so to speak. Besides, I'm still interested--so I have 7 in one VM and 8 in another. However, after what I've read about Lion and Mountain Lion, I'm sticking with Snow Leopard. It used to be I couldn't upgrade, but no more.
 
Lil Chillbil said:
I was wondering as a hardcore apple fan why the heck would anybody want to run windows on a mac. I personaly love the apple software i'm running 10.4.11 on my Powermac g4 with upgraded 1 gig of ram and an 80 gig hardrive. But seriously it kinda gives me a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach at the thought of powering on a mac only to see the horror of pc software 😱. Keep in mind this is not an attack on the hackintosh comunity I just want to know why. 😕
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Some software is made for Windows only. So those who need to use that software will have to run Windows on their Mac or use two computers. I prefer the first one.
 
iOSification

Grannyville7989 said:
Out of curiosity, as I plan to stick with Snow Leopard for a while, why are you sticking to Snow Leopard?
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I appreciate your asking, but this is hardly the forum for a lengthy discussion. Let me just call my reason(s) iOSification, making the OS X tool* more difficult to use.
[* That's in reference to throAU's post, which I agree with.]
 
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