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FocusAndEarnIt

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Mine is the PowerBook G3. I think it's an incredibly sexy machine and one of the best notebooks Apple ever created.

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I was less than 10 years old when my dad bought a Wallstreet. It would then become mine in junior high. The hard drive ended up dying with a flashing question mark, and back then we didn't know what that meant. We ended up trashing it. How I wish I could go back and save it...

I want a Pismo very badly! I'd love one with a working battery. Not sure how possible that is 2021 though.

What about you?
 

RogerWilco6502

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That'd be a hard one for me. I love the Wallstreet/PDQ PowerBook G3s, but I also have a soft spot for the PowerBook 1400. The 3400 is historically significant, but I have no personal or sentimental link to it. Desktop-wise I love my Power Mac G4 DA, but I also really like the design of the 7500 and 7600.

I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that I don't quite know. I will say I have particularly strong connections to the Power Mac G4 Digital Audio and the PowerBook 1400 however. :)
 

eyoungren

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17" PowerBook G4 - 1.0Ghz, A1013, 2GB ram. This was the very first Apple laptop I ever wanted. I've got a 128GB SSD in it.

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PowerMac G4 Quicksilver. This was the one desktop G4 I actually desired. Don't really care for the design of the rest, although I own more than one G4.

This QS was upgraded to a 1.8Ghz Dual Processor Sonnet, with a 4 channel PCI SATA card, 3x 1TB hard drives and a SATA Optical Blueray DVD burner. It also had USB 2.0, BT 2.0 and a FW400/800 card. Three separate video cards were used, an NVIDIA GeForce 68000 GT, a Radeon 9200 and a Radeon 7000 (flashed). Oh yeah. 1.5GB ram.

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retta283

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Currently, my favorite is my 20" iMac G5 ALS. Nice screen, good specs on my model. I got it (partially) as a gift in 2005 and it was one of my best Mac experiences I had during my mixed ecosystem time in the 2000s. Kept it set up until May 2008 when I moved to a different apartment and had less desk area. It sat in storage for about 11 years after that. The 20" G4 is one of my most sought-after though.
 

velocityg4

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For me it's the Power Macintosh 7100/66AV. It was my first fast computer. Everything before that was decent but fairly lackluster. This was decked out with 72MB RAM, 2GB Fast/Wide SCSI, FWB Jackhammer NuBUS card, 33.6K Modem, 17" Sony Trinitron, 6x CD ROM, Apple Color Stylewriter, MacAlly Mousestick II, Plaintalk Microphone and various other SCSI devices.

Being able to plug in my camcorder, playback the VHS tape, and edit the video was mind blowing. Although not as impressive as speech recognition. The 7100 was blazing fast. The hard drive sounded like a jet engine. It was just a great Mac. I didn't own it long enough to get slow. So, I'll always remember it as fast.

Anyways, I've certainly had better ones. That's the only one I have fond memories of. The others were just faster, more capable and more storage. But don't have that same nostalgia factor. Plus I have a certain affinity for Apple's beige boxes. Same goes for the IIvx, my first Mac. Along with an AST 286 and Apple IIe. Collectively the first computers I learned to use. Although I don't recall if I learned the 286 first at home or the IIe at school.

Oddly enough. It seems the AV models weren't that popular. When it comes to finding them on eBay. They don't show up very often. Not like the non-AV variants. In fact even finding a good, clean picture of the 7100/66AV with CD drive isn't easy on an image search. Most are the wrong model or one in rough shape.

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retta283

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For me it's the Power Macintosh 7100/66AV. It was my first fast computer. Everything before that was decent but fairly lackluster. This was decked out with 72MB RAM, 2GB Fast/Wide SCSI, FWB Jackhammer NuBUS card, 33.6K Modem, 17" Sony Trinitron, 6x CD ROM, Apple Color Stylewriter, MacAlly Mousestick II, Plaintalk Microphone and various other SCSI devices.

Being able to plug in my camcorder, playback the VHS tape, and edit the video was mind blowing. Although not as impressive as speech recognition. The 7100 was blazing fast. The hard drive sounded like a jet engine. It was just a great Mac. I didn't own it long enough to get slow. So, I'll always remember it as fast.

Anyways, I've certainly had better ones. That's the only one I have fond memories of. The others were just faster, more capable and more storage. But don't have that same nostalgia factor. Plus I have a certain affinity for Apple's beige boxes. Same goes for the IIvx, my first Mac. Along with an AST 286 and Apple IIe. Collectively the first computers I learned to use. Although I don't recall if I learned the 286 first at home or the IIe at school.

Oddly enough. It seems the AV models weren't that popular. When it comes to finding them on eBay. They don't show up very often. Not like the non-AV variants. In fact even finding a good, clean picture of the 7100/66AV with CD drive isn't easy on an image search. Most are the wrong model or one in rough shape.
Ah, getting into the vintage stuff. I didn't own many pre-G3/Jobs' return Macintoshes, only had a Quadra 950 and some towers that were not my property but I spent time with. I recall in particular the 9500 series.
 

velocityg4

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Mine is the PowerBook G3. I think it's an incredibly sexy machine and one of the best notebooks Apple ever created.

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I was less than 10 years old when my dad bought a Wallstreet. It would then become mine in junior high. The hard drive ended up dying with a flashing question mark, and back then we didn't know what that meant. We ended up trashing it. How I wish I could go back and save it...

I want a Pismo very badly! I'd love one with a working battery. Not sure how possible that is 2021 though.

What about you?

You could probably rebuild the battery pack. If you had a mind to. Haven't tried it with a Powerbook. But I've done it on some random POS laptop I used to use. I pulled it apart and replaced the Lithium cells. Was also able to double the capacity. As the battery case was originally only half populated.

Ah, getting into the vintage stuff. I didn't own many pre-G3/Jobs' return Macintoshes, only had a Quadra 950 and some towers that were not my property but I spent time with. I recall in particular the 9500 series.

Had one of those too 9500/132. It was my first music server when I went to college. I don't remember anyone else having anything like that. A media server with tens of thousands of songs ripped from CD. Hooked up to a full sized stereo. Networked across the house. So, each room could play it's own music off the same library. Had to figure out how to get all computers to use one iTunes library without screwing it up.
 
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Project Alice

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It’s hard for me to say what mine is. My iBook G3 500MHz dual USB and 500MHz indigo iMac both hold sentimental value to me. The former was my first laptop and second Mac.
However they’re a pain to use as being G3s.

Any of the G4 towers, specifically the QS and MDD are IMO the best looking tower computers made, of all time. Including today. I also love the iMac G4 for the same reason.

I have all of these, but my #1 most used one is my 15” Aluminum PowerBook G4. I guess that’s because it’s easy to just grab and turn on and in my small space it’s easy to just sit on the couch and play with it vs finding somewhere to hook it up. So by that logic you could say it’s my favorite. I like most of them for different reasons.
 

AL1630

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As far as looks go, my favorite is the slotloader iMac G3, it's just so iconic and wacky, and it's what got me into PPC in the first place. As far as general usability/usefulness goes, I'd say Aluminum PowerBook. I tend to prefer laptops since they take up so much less space. I built a little shelf that holds 5 laptops and only takes up the floor space of 2 G4 towers.
 

MacFoxG4

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Tough call. If it is favorite mac models that we own, then it would have to be either my Sawtooth or my PDQ. I love the Sawtooth because it is so easy to get inside and upgrade it. The upgrades inside the Sawtooth make it a good PPC Leopard machine while aslo being a really powerful OS 9 rig and a really good Tiger rig too. I love the PDQ because it has legacy ports such as ADB, serial, and SCSI, but (thanks to the PC card slot) you can add more modern ports and functionality to it as well such as USB and DVD playback. This makes the PDQ a great bridge Mac. The PDQ also has VGA out without needing any dongles or adapters, which is nice. I also love that it still has the rainbow Apple logo beneath the screen. Unfortunately, one of the metal hinges of my PDQ's screen snapped off so I had to remove the display and use the PDQ with a monitor, so I don't get to see the rainbow Apple logo anymore.

If we are counting Mac models we don't own, then I would have to add the fruit color iMac G3s to the list. They are just so cool and iconic looking. My favorite color out of the fruit color models is the Tangerine. Orange is my favorite color.
 

sailingdarter

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For me it would be a 3 way tie between

-Kansas Mach V 604ev Towers (aka the later 8600/9600s)
--It would have been interesting to see how the 604ev could have continued to evolve because the very last Mach V iterations of the 604ev were great chips but were hobbled by a 50Mhz FSB compared to their G3 successors.
-Glossemur Biege G3 Minitowers
--Great Motherboard had both SCSI and IDE onboard. I wish it would have had more slots
-Sawtooth G4 Towers
 

Captain Trips

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I like all of the PowerPC Macs I have had. I can't choose a favorite because they had/have things I liked:
  • G4 Cube. Bought it used, it had problems locking up. But darn it looked so cool. And I still use the Apple keyboard and Pro Mouse that I got with it to this day.
  • iBook G3 (white polycarbonate shell, not the colorful clamshell). My first Mac.
  • Mac mini G4 (2005). I used it for 11 years.
I have a 2004 PowerBook 17" that I bought on eBay and should (I hope) arrive tomorrow. If it works out well then it will be added to my list. :)
 
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Around November 1999, right after the G4 towers were introduced (and then unceremoniously down-clocked) and the popularity of the fruity iMacs were reaching their apex, a photo briefly went around which captivated me — then a brand-new owner of a G4 tower and getting online, from home, for the very first time.

Nowadays, we might chalk it up as some kind of cheap Photoshop gimmick. But it left me wanting, hoping it was actually a thing — even an ultra-limited production thing: a grape G4 tower.

It was magnificent — understated, but more lively as an alternative to graphite. Inspired not only by the fruit hues but also by a harlequin VW Golf III in my neighbourhood, I dreamt of matching it with a tangerine keyboard and a lime mouse and calling it the “secondaries Mac G4”.

In hindsight, it was, gratuitously put, a mock-up (or, less forgiving, a fake, a gag). It was also the direction I sincerely hoped the G4 tower design might eventually explore (namely, color-as-an-option/accessory being in-built for all future Macs, which at the time were all in polycarbonate shells). This obviously would not be the case, and contrary to a lot of fans on here, all the subsequent cladding revisions to the G4 tower case parsed to me as excessive and even gaudy.

Part of me still thinks about that grape G4 mock-up as the “favourite PPC Mac” that never was.

Of the PPC Macs which do exist? What are my favourite(s)?

This may come as a shock, at least to one or two of you:
  1. the key lime iBook G3 SE/466 (both for its aesthetic externals, its rock-solid stability and reliability, and also for what can be done potentially with its internals, many of which I’ve managed to do): it shocked a lot of people at the time, but dazzled me in the best possible way;
  2. the 17-inch aluminium PowerBook G4 (its design, features, and breakthrough capabilities generally, but specifically, the well-built internals for the major revision in the late 2005 edition); and
  3. honourable mention, I think, to the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh, for its novelty during its moment. I only got to see one in person at the time (around April 1998, as memory serves), but it was the first time I’d seen an all-in-one design which was as unique and memorable as the original all-in-one 128K. Of course, the iMac G3 would soon follow, but the the 20th reminded me of the BeoCenter CD player design of the early 1990s which I’d never be able to afford.
 

Doq

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I can't really say I'd have a favourite if we're considering looks. I didn't get in to the PPC Mac scene because of how they looked, I actually got in because of PowerPC itself-- at the time I had a soft spot and hard curiosity for computing architectures not named x86. And to be quite honest, I kinda still do, it's one of the reasons I got an M1 Mac mini.

That said:
  • Power Macintosh G3 Beige -- One of the few PPC Macs that I've grown fond too because of its looks. Or rather, the lack thereof. It was the last desktop Mac before the signature Apple Design revolution came with the G3 Blue and White. It's also one of my Golden Macs, and I'll be receiving one soon!
  • The eMac -- A lot of people like the design of the iMac G4: the lamp shape, the LCD, the engineering. And then there's me, who thinks that the eMac, with its big bulky CRT, looks so much better. Also I have a soft spot for the eMac sitting over on my corner table that I repaired not that long ago.
  • PowerBook G4 -- the whole line, top to bottom. There's a reason why I want one in every size and Titanium, and it's the novelty of the alternate architecture, combined with the modern Apple design. Furthermore, a PowerBook G4 was what got me into this scene: my companion, the A1046.
  • One more-- the PowerBook G3, Kanga -- This one's a more recent curiosity for me, mostly because I looked at it and went "you mean to tell me, there's a G3 that doesn't have official Mac OS 9.2 support?" Of course you can make it work with third party hacks, but officially it only goes to 9.1. And then I decided that I needed to get my hands on one. One of these days. Finding a Kanga may be more difficult than finding a 17" DLSD.
  • Bonus one, not a PPC but I'll include it for completeness -- Quadra 950 -- I never particularly liked the 800 series Quadra design and really liked the 900 series design, thus making the Quadra 950 the no-brainer 68k Mac for me.
 
I can't really say I'd have a favourite if we're considering looks. I didn't get in to the PPC Mac scene because of how they looked, I actually got in because of PowerPC itself-- at the time I had a soft spot and hard curiosity for computing architectures not named x86. And to be quite honest, I kinda still do, it's one of the reasons I got an M1 Mac mini.

That said:
  • Power Macintosh G3 Beige -- One of the few PPC Macs that I've grown fond too because of its looks. Or rather, the lack thereof. It was the last desktop Mac before the signature Apple Design revolution came with the G3 Blue and White. It's also one of my Golden Macs, and I'll be receiving one soon!
  • The eMac -- A lot of people like the design of the iMac G4: the lamp shape, the LCD, the engineering. And then there's me, who thinks that the eMac, with its big bulky CRT, looks so much better. Also I have a soft spot for the eMac sitting over on my corner table that I repaired not that long ago.
  • PowerBook G4 -- the whole line, top to bottom. There's a reason why I want one in every size and Titanium, and it's the novelty of the alternate architecture, combined with the modern Apple design. Furthermore, a PowerBook G4 was what got me into this scene: my companion, the A1046.
  • One more-- the PowerBook G3, Kanga -- This one's a more recent curiosity for me, mostly because I looked at it and went "you mean to tell me, there's a G3 that doesn't have official Mac OS 9.2 support?" Of course you can make it work with third party hacks, but officially it only goes to 9.1. And then I decided that I needed to get my hands on one. One of these days. Finding a Kanga may be more difficult than finding a 17" DLSD.
  • Bonus one, not a PPC but I'll include it for completeness -- Quadra 950 -- I never particularly liked the 800 series Quadra design and really liked the 900 series design, thus making the Quadra 950 the no-brainer 68k Mac for me.

I loved loved loved the Quadra 840AV. It was our workstation at the job I had then, and it was still fast and robust even on the day the IT department took it out and gave us a (seemingly slower) Power Mac 8100/80. In hindsight, the 8100 felt slower because it was probably dealing with the “fat binaries” and translation of non-PPC code. There was, however, no dispute with our team that the first-gen PPC601s were really buggy for us relative to the 840AV and the IIsi models we’d used previously.

This was borne out at my other job at the time (working two jobs has a long historyin my life), where one of the owners bought a 6100/60 (with the PC card), and that was painfully slow to watch. It was also slow and buggy for him, as he was not in the slightest what one might have called “savvy” with electronics.
 

mectojic

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Nowadays, we might chalk it up as some kind of cheap Photoshop gimmick. But it left me wanting, hoping it was actually a thing — even an ultra-limited production thing: a grape G4 tower.
Hey @B S Magnet , I may have found your Grape G4. I was reading old Macworld magazines for fun, and the July 1999 edition, speculating on a new G4 system, had this photoshop mockup. It does look beautiful, especially with the G4 on the side.
I wonder if this is where those speculations came from? Perhaps the internet took this photo and tried to sell it as a legitimate rumour. I think the article just did the render for fun, though- not based on any internal leaks.

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Hey @B S Magnet , I may have found your Grape G4. I was reading old Macworld magazines for fun, and the July 1999 edition, speculating on a new G4 system, had this photoshop mockup. It does look beautiful, especially with the G4 on the side.
I wonder if this is where those speculations came from? Perhaps the internet took this photo and tried to sell it as a legitimate rumour. I think the article just did the render for fun, though- not based on any internal leaks.

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Heh, they did a quick-n-dirty, but nice effort in Photoshop (probably Photoshop 4!).

But that ain’t the picture which was floating about around that time. The picture was very clearly a G4 with the transparent acrylic handles and sides, and the colour was closer to the actual Grape of the iMac G3. It also looked straight out of Apple’s usual photography studio (in terms of lighting, product angles, and the like).

I concede it’s entirely not beyond possibility it was a cleverly altered photo of a graphite stock image, but this being, roughly, around December 1999, pretty much at the height of interest and popularity in the fruit hues, I’m left on the fence of “Apple must have flirted with bringing over more than just graphite to the G4s, if not for aesthetic testing, then for production feasibility and gauging which fruit hue might play out most popular with pro consumers.” Of those, grape was probably the least vivid, but still full of that dash of colour which someone dropping upward of USD$3,000 would consider seriously.

This timing would comport with Apple bringing over the “Blue” in the Blue & White G3 to the iMac, by re-badging it as, inexplicably, “blueberry“. (I mean, had anyone in Cupertino actually seen a blueberry before, or did they think “blueberry” was the hue of a blue raspberry Icee they grew up with when they went to the Sears department store with their parents as kids?) 🤔

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Above: waxy cup used probably until the 1990s, next to a modern Icee cup being filled with “Blueberry”-blue raspberry slush


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Above: actual blueberry… if only Apple bothered to try! 🤦‍♀️
 
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In some lightning, a real blueberry looks something like Indigo or even Graphite!

In green-yellow lighting, cutting out the reds and purples, sure. With those gels on studio lights, I could make you look like you’re a member of the Blue Teal Man Group! :p


This is the blueberry I think of though: blueberry clouds.
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I have no idea what those are. A candy, I gather?

Blueberries (they grow indigenous to this region) are basically deep purple-skinned fruits (semi-clear inside), rendered “blue” by the waxy, whitish bloom which protects the berries and shift the hue toward dark blue. The purple is the same anthocyanin found in purple carrots, açai, and black cherries.

Nothing about that hue lines up with Apple’s “blueberry” — except marketing for “fruit” and realizing there isn’t much association with the hue of window cleaner, toilet bowl disinfectant, and blue curaçao found in nature. :D
 
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