It depends on the model. It looks like the final rev 1.25 could have used the 7457?
What does your eMac’s CPU identify itself as in System Profiler and Xbench?
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Your Go-To Desktop PowerPC
- Thread starter AphoticD
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
It depends on the model. It looks like the final rev 1.25 could have used the 7457?
What does your eMac’s CPU identify itself as in System Profiler and Xbench?
Work:
- Office 2004/08
- DEVONthink Office Pro with option for OCR running in the background (together with a Fujitsu ScanSnap1500 or CanoScanLide200)
- PageSender Fax Center
- VirtualPC with WinXP_Fundamentals for VPN/RDP to connect to a WinServer2008 and Win2kPro (Win-Progs, old Games)
- PDF tools (iCombiner/CombinePDFs; PDFpenPro/Skim to add Stamp/Signature)
- TaskPaper 1.0 (kind of basic freestyle only text-based outliner that could have been held in sync with intelMacs and iOS via Dropbox)
RemoteAccess:
- TeamViewer7
- ScreenSharing/VNC
- VirtualPC/WinXP_Fundamentals/RemoteDesktopClient6.1
Web:
- Mail, Webkit, TFF, TFFbox (mainly for WhatsApp and GoogleMaps); FirstClass
Media:
- Video: eyeTV / CorePlayer / VLC; Perian; iMovie'06; Capturing:analog via eyeTV-box, DV via FireWire/iMovie
- Music: iTunes, AirFoil/AirfoilSpeakers; LineIn; AudioHijackPro
System:
- MenuBar-Apps: Moom, Caffeine, ScreenSharingMenulett, AccessMenuBarApps, MenuMeters, Growl
- Files/FTP: ForkLift, Cyberduck
- System: CarbonCopyCloner/SuperDuper!; Onyx/TinkerTool/Secrets; G4FanControl/HardwareMonitor; iScroll2; ; ABetterFinder(Rename);
- Keyboard/Mouse-Sharing: Teleport or SynergyKM in combination with ScreenSharing/VNC
Last edited:
no stock eMac ever used the 7457 (in-fact AFAIK no Mac ever used the 7457 at all)
the eMac used 7450/7455s at the start (complete with unpopulated L3 cache pads)
then moved to 7447/A/Bs later on.
Mactracker states 7447/7457 for the last two eMac revisions and Lowendmac refer to a 7457B for the 1.25Ghz. EveryMac also refers to a few iBooks with a 7457 CPU.
Wiki states the 7457 was used for some G4 upgrade cards.
I wonder why the confusion?
I use a dual 2.7 G5 at home for a lot of scanning work and a Quad at work for certain PPC-specific programs.
I have a BUNCH of other computers set up for special purpose applications that unfortunately don't get used that much.
One of my favorites is my "gaming Mac" that's on my living room desk. It's a Cube with an 800mhz Sonnet and a Geforce 3 driving a 17" ADC CRT. It's a pleasure to use, albeit it's OS 9 optimized.
I also have a DA box that I have designated as potentially the fastest OS 9 Mac in existence
. It has a dual 1.8 Sonnet and a Geforce 4Ti. Needless to say, it also runs OS X quite well.
I have a BUNCH of other computers set up for special purpose applications that unfortunately don't get used that much.
One of my favorites is my "gaming Mac" that's on my living room desk. It's a Cube with an 800mhz Sonnet and a Geforce 3 driving a 17" ADC CRT. It's a pleasure to use, albeit it's OS 9 optimized.
I also have a DA box that I have designated as potentially the fastest OS 9 Mac in existence
. It has a dual 1.8 Sonnet and a Geforce 4Ti. Needless to say, it also runs OS X quite well.
Hands down the PowerMac G4 Quicksilver.
Reasons?
Because it's so damn pretty!
You can forgive a lot of issues when something is that beautiful.
G5 Quad all day long. I've owned countless numbers of G5s and outside of the DP2.0, DP2.3, DC2.0, DP2.7, and Quads that I have owned, I like the quad. If you're going to use PPC, might as well shoot for the best and that's been my logic.
Took a long time before I got into Quads after I envied them for years, but I'm glad I own one still.
Second favorite is certainly a DP 1GHz QuickSilver. That thing was quick and I really liked it.
Took a long time before I got into Quads after I envied them for years, but I'm glad I own one still.
Second favorite is certainly a DP 1GHz QuickSilver. That thing was quick and I really liked it.
He has an Eyoungren Special ™. I don' t think there is much of the stock spec left in it.
I've only owned 3 Power Mac G4s - Quicksilver 933, MDD 1.25 and a MDD Dual 1.25 (2MB L3 Cache model). Guess I'll have to say the Dual 1.25 MDD as best as I actually used it for freelance graphic design up til 2011 and it performed without issue doing real work in CS3.
On a daily basis, I'd have Indesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Excel, Mail, iTunes and Safari all open and chugging along fine in Leopard on 2Gb RAM.
Back then, I don't remember any hiccups with doing anything - everything just worked, I think the only concession to tweaking I did was using VLC instead of Quicktime
When it was working…
1.8Ghz Dual Sonnet G4, 1.5GB ram, 1TB boot drive (SATA), 2x1TB secondary drives, SATA PCI, 6 displays (NVIDIA GeForce 6800GT, Radeon 9200, Radeon 7000), USB 2.0, Bluetooth 2.0, DVD-ROM Dual Layer.
I loved it. Unfortunately, heat and power were it's main problems. Both kept killing SATA and USB 2.0 cards. I went so far as to knock a hole in the bottom and install a 120mm fan there.
Apple provides all these slots in the G4 case, but they never considered that anyone would actually use all of them, let alone put in three video cards. Unlike the G5, it is a very poor thermal design. The stock case fan alone has to vent case air at 90º to the direction it is drawing out air.
Things probably might have been better if I could have converted it to ATX power, but at a certain point I just couldn't bring myself to expend any more energy on it. It 'died' a final time and forum members came to my rescue with G5 donations.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/quicksilver-beautification-project.1953562/
Last edited:
Dual 1Ghz QS.
Because it’s 17 years old & I can still pay my taxes on it
Because it’s 17 years old & I can still pay my taxes on it
Amazing things these PPC Macs. You should get one!I don't have a PPC desktop... yet
Amazing things these PPC Macs. You should get one!
Oh, I've got a few PPC notebooks. Now I need a desktop machine
iMac G4. Due to maxed out RAM and an SSD mod. I know it's not mentioned and this is PPC but my other go to Mac's are a 06 Core Duo Mac Mini maxed out and a 06 Core Duo iMac maxed out. These are getting old themselves. They run great though. And I love Leopard so they both have it installed.
Found one...
When I get around to doing the thermal paste, I'll take some macro shots for you.
I feel like the eMac is very much underrated. You can pick up the 2005 model for around $50, it has near Power Mac G4 level components, and it's got some great speakers.
I think it's absolutely one of the best PowerPC Macs to use, especially when considering that price point. But certainly a great starter machine, that's for sure.
I remember when I had one of the first revisions, the 700 MHz build, the optical drive opening and closing was quite possibly the quietest and smoothest I've ever heard. It was such a pleasure to use, especially with Panther installed. Wish I kept it, although to be fair I probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
I think it's absolutely one of the best PowerPC Macs to use, especially when considering that price point. But certainly a great starter machine, that's for sure.
I remember when I had one of the first revisions, the 700 MHz build, the optical drive opening and closing was quite possibly the quietest and smoothest I've ever heard. It was such a pleasure to use, especially with Panther installed. Wish I kept it, although to be fair I probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
Last edited:
Found one...
View attachment 761320
When I get around to doing the thermal paste, I'll take some macro shots for you.
I wish
but sadly that system uses a 7447, the 7457 and 7447 share the same PVR, the 7457 was the high end CPU with the L3 interface the 7447 was the same as the 7457 but lower end and lacked the L3 interface, as such the 7457 is the "primary" CPU and software IDs it both 7457s and 7447s as 7457s. or at most they may say 7457/7447. this is just like how the iMac G4 1.25 uses a 7445 but if you fire up CHUD tools it says 7455.
Macro shots would still be very much appreciated tho
I wish
but sadly that system uses a 7447, the 7457 and 7447 share the same PVR, the 7457 was the high end CPU with the L3 interface the 7447 was the same as the 7457 but lower end and lacked the L3 interface, as such the 7457 is the "primary" CPU and software IDs it both 7457s and 7447s as 7457s. or at most they may say 7457/7447. this is just like how the iMac G4 1.25 uses a 7445 but if you fire up CHUD tools it says 7455.
Macro shots would still be very much appreciated tho
Man, you are ADVANCED. Blew right past me!
Last edited:
I have a 1.42 set up on my kitchen table now(yes I live alone).
There's a lot to like about it-it's perky enough with Tiger and has a great built in true-flat CRT. The iMac tends to get the attention, but the last gen eMacs are both faster and have better GPUs.
Still, though, I'll take my G4 towers along with the 17" ADC display. You can go nuts on CPU upgrades if you want along with GPUs. I have one that has a 2ghz 7448 and one of the FireGL X3s flashed to an X800XT(those were hot a few years back when they got cheap-it's one of the best performing AGP GPUs you can put in a Mac).
The Pro Speakers+iSub make for an amazing combination. Unfortunately, if you want the iSub to work in Leopard, you have to mess around with the audio kexts, it's still buggy, and it messes things up if you have USB audio in. I finally quit messing with it and bought the first gen Sound Sticks, which are better than the Pro speakers and have the iSub integrated into them.
For complex tasks, games, programming, HD video, definitely my Q5 Quad under Leopard.
Funny enough though, for a quick little google or something light, I tend toward my Quicksilver Dual running Tiger. It just starts up so fast and flys at general tasks. Really snappy machine!
Funny enough though, for a quick little google or something light, I tend toward my Quicksilver Dual running Tiger. It just starts up so fast and flys at general tasks. Really snappy machine!
I wish
but sadly that system uses a 7447, the 7457 and 7447 share the same PVR, the 7457 was the high end CPU with the L3 interface the 7447 was the same as the 7457 but lower end and lacked the L3 interface, as such the 7457 is the "primary" CPU and software IDs it both 7457s and 7447s as 7457s. or at most they may say 7457/7447. this is just like how the iMac G4 1.25 uses a 7445 but if you fire up CHUD tools it says 7455.
Macro shots would still be very much appreciated tho
Here's the 1Ghz 7447 CPU from the PowerBook G4 12" (DVI);
Once again sir, you are correct.
(As you can also see, the standoff post to the right of the CPU came out with the spring / screw combo. The same thing happened on the 1.33Ghz PowerBook G4 12". I glued them back on with Versachem 2-part Quick-set epoxy. So far so good).
Unfortunately, after all of my efforts on my iBook G4 12" 1.33Ghz (7447A), the logic board failed to boot. I am weighing up whether I should part it out or just buy a replacement logic board to get it back upright again.
I had trouble with that damn thing too. Broke off, then I sort of seated it back. Didn't glue it for the possibility of taking it apart again (*shutter*) for some kind of mod.
I (and probably most people here) would love nothing more than a modern iMac G4 / PowerBook G4, and am starting to find myself contemplating it.
...Maybe when I get free time...