Your iPhone doesn't belong to you.

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by TheSpaz, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    I just noticed... if you bought an iPhone 3G... it's not your iPhone at all... it's AT&T's iPhone. If you cancel your service, you HAVE to give the Phone back... that's like canceling your Cable TV and giving your TV back. What the heck, I thought that if I bought an iPhone, it's mine... guess not.... I'm just borrowing it for 2 years.
     
  2. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Only within the first 30 days; after that you can keep it.

    And that's a pile of illegal crap, in my opinion, anyway.
     
  3. jcde7ago macrumors 6502

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    This is only if you cancel your service within 30 days. After 30 days, if you cancel, you get hit with an ETF, but you can keep your phone.
     
  4. milani macrumors 68000

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    It would only be like the cable company taking your TV if they subsidized the cost of the TV with the cable subscription. Don't forget that you pay a fraction of the actual cost of the iPhone, and your cellular provider (AT&T, Rogers, whatever) eats the rest of the cost.
     
  5. benflick macrumors 68020

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    Perfect explaination...
     
  6. slidetounlock macrumors regular

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    I may be new here but the OP posts more useless threads here than anyone! This has been covered, and covered and covered...
     
  7. milani macrumors 68000

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    Grazie! :D (And that's thank you in Italian, by the way.)
     
  8. benflick macrumors 68020

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    Fixed:)

    Well you are new here, and while the thread may be useless to you, I think it was very neat:D
     
  9. superstrikertwo macrumors 65816

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    Unless you're in California then they can't charge an ETF it's illegal.
     
  10. CocoaPuffs macrumors 68010

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    Please cite your source, I doubt this is true.
     
  11. Manzana macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, I would be interested in confirmation of this statement as well.
     
  12. SFStateStudent macrumors 604

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    If they can pry it from my cold dead fingers (aka: death-grip), then they can have it...:p
     
  13. bradl macrumors 68040

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    IIRC, there was just a judgment in a lawsuit in California regarding ETFs. The cell phone companies/wireless companies lost (I want to say they were Verizon and Sprint). there's a huge thread in this forum somewhere on it, and it was within the past 2 months.

    It's on /. as well.

    BL.
     
  14. deannnnn macrumors 68000

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    I don't think that has passed yet...
    If you cancel your contract today in California, you'd still be forced to pay the fee.
     
  15. CocoaPuffs macrumors 68010

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    This law cannot possibly be in effect. If it is, price of iPhones on EBay would be much lower.
     
  16. bradl macrumors 68040

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  17. CocoaPuffs macrumors 68010

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    Yes, we're aware of that lawsuit. Poster gave the impression that subsequent legal actions took place, which was unlikely.
     
  18. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Ahh.. I see now. I'm not aware of any existing laws that have made that illegal.. however, There was talk on /. about there being hearings on ETFs in Congress...

    http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/31/176251

    BL.
     
  19. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    Sorry guys.. this is the first time I've heard of having to give your iPhone back if you cancel your subscription... I didn't realize it was just the first 30 days. My bad.
     
  20. deimos256 macrumors 6502a

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    As far as giving the phone back, I understand that an ETF fee is basically the other half of the price of the phone, thats why they charge it, just to eat up thier end of the phone.

    As for California i think the lawsuits are ongoing, I know i got a letter in the mail from a law firm regarding getting back the 2 ETFs I have paid to VZW, and I dont even live in CA
     
  21. neesh0 macrumors 6502a

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    I think it's fair, if you decide to cancel your contract in 30 days they should take it back because that means that they subsidized the price for you for no apparent reason
     
  22. Clete2 macrumors 65816

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    It certainly is fair -- within 30 days. I don't think anyone would argue that (well some would).

    I take that back: It is fair with the current standards of the industry.
     
  23. madfresh macrumors regular

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    I'd like to see them rip it out of my hands first.
     
  24. Warbrain macrumors 603

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    It's this way with ANY phone you purchase with a new contract.
     
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