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YouTube for Apple TV uses H.264, not Flash
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I can't see this being great. I just keep thinking of the quality of YouTube videos, they look similar to your run of the mill vodcasts, they look rubbish in their native size on my iMac, I can imagine how they'd look on a large TV
I hadn't really thought of that before.
I can't see this being great. I just keep thinking of the quality of YouTube videos, they look similar to your run of the mill vodcasts, they look rubbish in their native size on my iMac, I can imagine how they'd look on a large TV
For YouTube is not the quality it's the CONTENT!!!
It's the same to upload a movie with a great viewing quality as it is to upload a poor quality vid. Does that mean that the vid with greater quality will be the most viewed? No. (and if its the same stuff... still "not necessarily")
Don't forget that people.
I'm guessing they will be re-encoding from the original source material so the quality is going to be a lot better but still not good. But I don't really think that matters to a lot of people. It's always the content of the video, the story etc... That's why YouTube is so successful. We like watching Independent content and getting a snap shot of real people etc. It doesn't have to be 720p and 5.1 to enjoy it. That's not what YouTube is about.
Beat me to it Teddy's
Beat me to it Teddy's
Funnily enough, I was just thinking yesterday how every site with video clips (of Surface, the Jobs & Gates meeting etc.) were all using Flash streaming; and now this comes along.
Interesting too that this is just after Jobs emphasizing in that meeting how Microsoft's strength was the ability to build deals. It seems Apple, you've caught up! (Google, the music industry, Cingular, etc.)
I think this is an interesting play for Google/YouTube. This is them breaking out of the PC market and onto the TV and possibly the phone market in a big way.
Interesting too that this is just after Jobs emphasizing in that meeting how Microsoft's strength was the ability to build deals. It seems Apple, you've caught up! (Google, the music industry, Cingular, etc.)
I think this is an interesting play for Google/YouTube. This is them breaking out of the PC market and onto the TV and possibly the phone market in a big way.
I wonder if this will be accessible through Front Row? Since with no cable TV in the house I have NO need for AppleTV, but it'd be awesome to sit back on the couch and watch poorly produced 2 minute clips of teenagers shooting eachother with paintball guns. WOW.
For some videos they could have the higher quality version the user uploaded, if they saved them. However, I'm not sure why they would save them. But many people upload flv's, encoded themselves, at YouTube's res, so they don't get re-encoded by YouTube.
I think YouTube going to the tv with Apple TV being the bridge is a huge step for YouTube and great for Apple. And it's come soon. Even h264 at the YouTube res will still be foul on a big screen tv. But they gotta make the move with what they have now to make it happen soon.
Re-encoding all of YouTube's catalog of videos?!?!?! That's not just gonna take a lot of processing power a lot of time, computers are gonna die in the process.
Definitely can't see h264 replacing flv's on the actual site though.
instead of re-encoding all youtube videos (that's unimaginable to me...) why not bring flash support to the ipod. There is more to this than we know.
It seems that after getting into bed with Apple for DRM free music EMI have just struck a deal with YouTube to allow them to utilize their catalogue on the site.
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/06/01/0032248.shtml
All hail our Apple-Google-EMI overlords
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/06/01/0032248.shtml
All hail our Apple-Google-EMI overlords
Nope, all you need is to create a batch list in Media Cleaner Pro and it will do it all at once.
Because of something called "experience".
If Youtube needs to upgrade quality in the future all their "negatives" are already ready. Youtube because the biggest video library in the world and for the future so is obvious they keep all their material in their original format and compress it for straming propourses.
Of course they do. Why would there be such a tight upload size limit (rather than merely times, which iirc can be deduced from header information) otherwise? Sure, it doubles or triples (or quadruples) their storage liability, but I'd be willing to bet they have originals for everything. Such a thing might be subpoenaed anyway for forensic evidence in the event of a copyright lawsuit (to show origin). There are probably more reasons to keep the originals than that (eventual upscaling? bughunting?).
This is not to say that all YouTube uploads have been retained. I doubt that. But I'd be surprised if they didn't start retaining them rather early in their history.
YouTube > Revver Model?
Maybe this is YouTube's strategy towards advertising revenue... increase the quality and available formats and feed more 'channels' (web/TV/mobile devices).
Revver does a good job of allowing users to upload their original videos (under 100mb), convert them to Flash and Quicktime formats, at a higher quality than YouTube.
They stick an advert on the end of your video. If someone clicks on the advert, you get a 'share' of the advertising revenue, creating an incentive for 'better' videos.
The cool thing is the use of RSS, allowing you to 'feed' your website, as embedded flash, as well as players such as Democracy Player and iTunes Store as a Video Podcast. The content is made available to mobile devices as well.
Feed many channels, from a single upload. I don't think this is just for Apple's sake, this is the way YouTube needed to go. Apple's just there at the right time.
Maybe this is YouTube's strategy towards advertising revenue... increase the quality and available formats and feed more 'channels' (web/TV/mobile devices).
Revver does a good job of allowing users to upload their original videos (under 100mb), convert them to Flash and Quicktime formats, at a higher quality than YouTube.
They stick an advert on the end of your video. If someone clicks on the advert, you get a 'share' of the advertising revenue, creating an incentive for 'better' videos.
The cool thing is the use of RSS, allowing you to 'feed' your website, as embedded flash, as well as players such as Democracy Player and iTunes Store as a Video Podcast. The content is made available to mobile devices as well.
Feed many channels, from a single upload. I don't think this is just for Apple's sake, this is the way YouTube needed to go. Apple's just there at the right time.
Re-encoding all of YouTube's catalog of videos?!?!?! That's not just gonna take a lot of processing power a lot of time, computers are gonna die in the process.
Have you guys ever actually encoded videos with h.264. Get 4 octo-macs running xgrid hooked up over a gigabit network and set them to it. On a 3ghz core it would take literally seconds to single-pass encode an h.264 file and you have 32 cores running 24/7? Last night I reincoded all 16 seasons of the simpsons using visualhub. My xgrid network consisting of a 2.0 core duo imac and a ppc g4 powermac. By morning it was done... Now imagine that mac pro cluster on some 15 second long low-res clips.
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I'm curious, what do you guys watch on youtube? I always end up watching what are basically americas funniest home videos and sometimes slam dunk contests from the late 1990's. Is there some more "official" form of content that I'm missing?
I'm curious, what do you guys watch on youtube? I always end up watching what are basically americas funniest home videos and sometimes slam dunk contests from the late 1990's. Is there some more "official" form of content that I'm missing?
I personally just watch something if someone's forwarded me a link to it, very rarely go looking. However, my wife is totally hooked on the Figure Skating content on YouTube. It would be awesome to see higher quality content on our TV, rather than have her hunched over the Laptop.
