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Cool discovery I made last night ...

YTPrivate, an instance of Invidious (YouTube front-end), works and is fully usable on Safari 4 in 10.4.11 (as well as Internet Explorer 9 on Windows Vista). Unfortunately, videos would not play on Camino 2.1.2, but I'm fairly sure that's just a preferences misconfiguration on my end.

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From what I could tell, the site does not use JavaScript, is relatively lightweight on embedded media, and only requires SSL to visit, so it definitely fits the requirements of a Web 1.1 website. It allows you to download everything from a 144p/3gpp file to a 1080p/mp4, right from the video page.

In addition, it automatically detects your browser version and adjusts the video player and quality depending on what venue it's being accessed from. It provides a link to the video page on YouTube (convenient for PPCMC), and even displays a browseable comments section on newer browsers, optionally with comments shown from both YouTube AND reddit.

Video playback usually hovers around 30% to 40% CPU on my DP G5, which I'm sure will still be quite watchable on even a low-end G4, especially if their downloadable 144p/3gpp videos are leveraged. All-in-all, browsing around feels similar to how YouTube used to be back in the day, with comparable performance.

It would be interesting to see how this site fares on Classilla and IE 8, and on more constrained machines to boot. :)
 
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z970mp said:
Cool discovery I made last night ...

YTPrivate, an instance of Invidious (YouTube frontend), works and is fully usable on Safari 4 in 10.4.11 (as well as Internet Explorer 9 on Windows Vista). Unfortunately, videos would not play on Camino 2.1.2, but I'm fairly sure that's just a preferences misconfiguration on my end.

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From what I could tell, the site does not use JavaScript, is relatively lightweight on embedded media, and only requires SSL to visit, so it just barely fits the requirements of a Web 1.1 website. It allows you to download everything from a 144p/3gpp file to a 1080p/mp4, right from the video page.

In addition, it automatically detects your browser version and adjusts the video player and quality depending on what venue it's being accessed from. It provides a link to the video page on YouTube (convenient for PPCMC), and even displays a browseable comments section on newer browsers, optionally with comments shown from both YouTube AND reddit.

Video playback usually hovers around 30% to 40% CPU on my DP G5, which I'm sure will still be quite watchable on even a low-end G4, especially if their downloadable 144p/3gpp videos are leveraged. All-in-all, browsing around feels similar to how YouTube used to be back in the day, with comparable performance.

It would be interesting to see how this site fares on Classilla and IE 8, and on more constrained machines to boot. :)
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I have long thought about something similar to this. The PPCMC7 web interface, but on a real internet connected server (instead of a local one). Info on the web interface.

Problems with this:
1) YouTube would probably ban the website IP and or throttle all YouTube-dl connections.
2) Downloading and then converting files to QuickTime 6 compatible formats like standard non H.264 MPEG-4/MPEG-1 would slow the server down immensely without a ton of cash to throw at it for decent load performance.
3) The web interface is not multi request ready still (easy fix).

I always thought it might be worth it just to have an input box for a YouTube link, have that sent to YouTube-dl on the server, and then have the website page refresh or load into the direct YouTube video URL picked up by the QuickTime internet plugin. Essentially no load on the server itself besides python running YouTube-dl, which would be fine for even the cheapest server.
 
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It does in fact work just fine with Classilla on my Titanium. The website loads somewhat slowly and very broken (likely due to Classilla presenting a mobile user agent) but all of the core functionality works and I was able to pull down a video. I tried the 360p mp4 first to see if that worked first. It didn't work, so I tried the 144p 3gpp and that also didn't work.

It probably will work though if I use a video player that is not QuickTime or convert the file into a format that QuickTime can use. More on this later.
 
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Doq said:
It does in fact work just fine with Classilla on my Titanium. The website loads somewhat slowly and very broken (likely due to Classilla presenting a mobile user agent) but all of the core functionality works and I was able to pull down a video. I tried the 360p mp4 first to see if that worked first. It didn't work, so I tried the 144p 3gpp and that also didn't work.

It probably will work though if I use a video player that is not QuickTime. More on this later.
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H.264 isn’t supported at all on OS 9/8.6. But the original MPEG-4 is (which is why PPCMC7 has options to convert to that format, as well as 240p MPEG-1 for super low end G3’s like the original iMac and clamshell which just can’t keep up with MPEG-4 even though QuickTime 6 on Mac OS 8.6 will play MPEG-4).
 
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@Doq So the video played in-browser, then? What happens if the UA is changed to a desktop identifier - is there any difference?
 
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I've been meaning to set up my own instance on invidious in my homelab, guess this a great reason to finally get around to it
 
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Doq said:
I tried the 360p mp4 first to see if that worked first. It didn't work, so I tried the 144p 3gpp and that also didn't work.
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In OS9 you can use Filetyper to change the 3gp filetype (Filetyper can generate a droplet so you can do this by dragging the 3gp file onto it) and they will play with QuickTime.
 
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Can confirm the only option in OS9 is to download the 3gp and pass through Filetyper before opening with QuickTime.

Of course the Russian YT still allows browser MP4 playback in Classilla as it doesn't transcode to h264.
 
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Played horribly under LWK in Leo. Next will try OS 9.
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Set the quality lower or switch user agent.

You don't need LWK for this, even Safari 4 works.

On my DLSD with Leopard it plays fine in Safari/LWK at around 35% CPU for 144P and 85% for 360P

Can't get it to function with InterWeb/Greasemonkey/Viewtube though which still does 360P at 50% on normal Youtube
 
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Hi! I am new to this thread, I just bought and am playing with a ibook G4, 1.07 GHz PowerPC g4, 1.25 GB RAM, 120GB SSD. Running 10.5.8.
Here is what I found after playing with ytprivate.
Use Safari as the browser.
I have Safari 5.0.6
Go to ytprivate website.
Search for your video
Under the video choose "Watch on YouTube (Embed).
It takes you to YT, no comments or anything else, just the video.
This works great for me, better than TenFiveTube, or any other option.
I am watching on 360p, and it works great, very watchable.
 
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