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I've got the new iPad Pro 11" and unfortunately YouTube looks so bad it hurts my eyes. It's so blurry that I can't focus on anything and I eventually get a headache. It looks like the maximum resolution is 1080P which is way under the iPad Pro's native resolution. I thought everything was updated to allow for at least 1440P like 1-2 years ago? I have gone to channels where I know they have 1440P and 2160P available and I still can't select anything other than 1080P. Has anyone found a solution? Not being able to watch YouTube comfortably on the iPad is a big problem, at least for my personal usage.
 
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iOS doesn’t use YouTube V9 codec for anything higher than 1080p.

I did not have this issue on my 10.5", I'm not sure what's changed then.

I have found similar reports but it's possible something changed recently:

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/...native-resolution-support-for-ipad-pro-806207

https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/8ljrl6/loss_of_1440p_on_ios_devices_recently_for_youtube/

https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/88my4m/has_the_1440p_option_been_removed_from_the/

I wonder why it looked so much better on my 10.5. Not being able to use YouTube properly on an iPad Pro is a pretty ridiculous limitation IMO.
 
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I've got the new iPad Pro 11" and unfortunately YouTube looks so bad it hurts my eyes. It's so blurry that I can't focus on anything and I eventually get a headache. It looks like the maximum resolution is 1080P which is way under the iPad Pro's native resolution. I thought everything was updated to allow for at least 1440P like 1-2 years ago? I have gone to channels where I know they have 1440P and 2160P available and I still can't select anything other than 1080P. Has anyone found a solution? Not being able to watch YouTube comfortably on the iPad is a big problem, at least for my personal usage.
The 11 and 10.5 resolution is essentially the same, and YouTube has never played in anything more than 1080p on the iPad, so I suspect the blurriness leading to headaches is probably mostly psychosomatic.

EDIT: I thought that I had edited this to say that "as far as I am aware, YouTube has never played in anything more than 1080p", because I don't know this for a fact. I also am talking about the app, not the web player in Safari.
 
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I believe you, I just have no idea what is going on then. It looked night & day better on my 10.5 (even side by side before I sold it) so maybe something is wrong with my 11.

The difference was very obvious side-by-side so I am not imagining things. Maybe I have a setting wrong or something.

YouTube has never played in anything more than 1080p on the iPad,

What about the links I posted above? They reference updates allowing native resolution and people on reddit seeing a 1440p option.

I also have a lot of 4K drone footage uploaded to YouTube on my private channel, and it looked great on the 10.5 and looks like ass on the 11. I know it wasn't playing in 4K but something is going on.
 
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I believe you, I just have no idea what is going on then. It looked night & day better on my 10.5 (even side by side before I sold it) so maybe something is wrong with my 11.

The difference was very obvious side-by-side so I am not imagining things. Maybe I have a setting wrong or something.



What about the links I posted above? They reference updates allowing native resolution and people on reddit seeing a 1440p option.

I also have a lot of 4K drone footage uploaded to YouTube on my private channel, and it looked great on the 10.5 and looks like ass on the 11. I know it wasn't playing in 4K but something is going on.
I remember seeing a 1440p quality option on a few videos before.
 
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I remember seeing a 1440p quality option on a few videos before.

Thanks. I could have sworn there was as well, hence why 1080P seems to look so bad. I am pretty sure that my "auto" quality setting before was pulling 1440P. If not, then I have no idea what's going on with my 11" because it looks like a standard def TV signal. I have 300Mbps internet as well so it has nothing to do with my connection speeds.
 
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YouTube used to support resolutions higher than 1080 on Apple devices until 1-2 years ago (not sure about the time frame), then Apple and Google started to fight over video codec standards. Apple doesn’t want to support YouTube codec and Google doesn’t want to support h264/5 on its YouTube app — same on AppleTV. I own a 4K TV and I can only watch 1080 videos on YouTube.

I guess we can just hope they reach an agreement. Also, multiple companies are working on a new standard codec but it’s not going to take over soon.
 
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I don't have any problem with the YouTube app on the 11" other than the time etc. still showing at the top when in full screen. I'm assuming you are running the video full screen when comparing. The image will be bigger on the 11" because it has a wider aspect ratio - it may be this increased scaling you are picking up on?
 
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the best thing is to go in a store and compare to see if its you or its your device
 
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the best thing is to go in a store and compare to see if its you or its your device

Keep in mind that the instore demo models have no 3rd party apps installed so you can't compare with the Youtube app. You can still pull it up in Safari though.
 
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I think there is a problem with the current version of Youtube app on iPad.

Most videos default to 360p and I have to manually switch to 1080p to get superb image quality.
 
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YouTube used to support resolutions higher than 1080 on Apple devices until 1-2 years ago (not sure about the time frame), then Apple and Google started to fight over video codec standards. Apple doesn’t want to support YouTube codec and Google doesn’t want to support h264/5 on its YouTube app — same on AppleTV. I own a 4K TV and I can only watch 1080 videos on YouTube.

I guess we can just hope they reach an agreement. Also, multiple companies are working on a new standard codec but it’s not going to take over soon.

It's the same with HDTV. HDMI 2.0, HDCP2.2, HDR vs. Dolby Vision, then you have the different audio bs. It's like VHS vs. Betamax all over again. It's tiresome watching these different companies fight each other for who is right, because their is financial gains for them "winning". I'm personally sick of it. They'd all make more money if they would agree on a standard and just implement it. I finally got tired of it this year with flat screens for the house. i wanted to update my old LG flouro powered 1080p screens with newer versions for living/master. Having had enough of it I bought in when HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 was present, and HDR on the sets I wanted. Content. Now in my theater, to replace my DLP, I'm waiting some more time since the size is considerably more expensive and I don't want to buy in only to get F'd on some standard with a HDMI port, copyright protection, HDR/Dolby vision, or some audio codec. It's tiresome.
 
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1080p is so blurry you get headaches? o_O

On a screen with a resolution much higher than 1080P, yes, it's blurry and therefore I can't focus on anything properly and I eventually get a headache. YMMV.

Same with computer monitors - say you have a 2560X1440 (1440P) monitor - try setting it to 1080P and watch how blurry it gets. Or try putting on a friend's glasses with a different prescription than yours - I get a similar sensation when trying to focus on such a blurry image.


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I think there is a problem with the current version of Youtube app on iPad.

Most videos default to 360p and I have to manually switch to 1080p to get superb image quality.

I have also noticed this - I am having to manually set every video to 1080P, they start at "auto" 360P.



Why can't Apple and Google just get along :(
 
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So the 1080P videos don't looks sharp and Full HD in the 11" iPad Pro in YouTube ??
 
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